Of course, he's much more use to them alive and so will be kept "alive" for as long as it suits them.
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European Union fostering more "control" over people's freedoms
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You mean one one else that swallows the corporate media line.
Not personally, no need for them to do so:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=27071909
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timo
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When I see terms such as 'intercultural dialogue' in an official release from any branch of any publicly funded body, government or NGO, my immediate reaction is that some bureaucrat has too much time on his hands.
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OK, let me say how this goes...
Now I respond "Oil war = war in Iraq", and also respond "UK troops are there with US troops".
And then you go "Iraq war is NOT about oil".
Next, we'll get lotsa people sharing their views, and this thread will be about something that the OP had no intention of discussing.
You wanna do that?
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Now I respond "Oil war = war in Iraq", and also respond "UK troops are there with US troops".
And then you go "Iraq war is NOT about oil".
Next, we'll get lotsa people sharing their views, and this thread will be about something that the OP had no intention of discussing.
You wanna do that?
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newmikey
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1. For the PR and legal advisors of the EU office who put together these requirements to cover their behind whatever the cost may be. I hope they get 0 submissions, but there are always people who, like with PPG, value their pride more than reason. All in all, this is a contest, with contest rules, and you choose to either accept or reject them.
2. For the OP of this thread for not making the difference between the rules of a photo contest and the requirements of legislation that affects all EU citizens. The fact that this specific contest was designed to these rules does not mean that anyone shooting pictures in the streets is hampered in any way, or required to do anything of the sort.
A simple-minded attempt to create an uproar about absolutely nothing! If you don't like the rules (as I do), don't submit a picture and let them fail miserably at their inane attempt to come down off mount Olympus and pretend the population actually interests them.
As you may have noticed, I am not too fond of EU bureaucracy/bureaucrats but still pretty useless to try and have this stand-in as proof for any level of personal freedom of lack of it, in the EU.
I can still be an atheist and be successful in politics, I could be gay and an accomplished teacher, I can say what I want without being sued any time soon, I can commit a traffic violation without getting a gun pointed at me. As far as personal freedom is concerned, we are still somewhat ahead of the US although the gap definitely IS narrowing. This case however, is NOT an example of something that narrows that gap even more!
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2. For the OP of this thread for not making the difference between the rules of a photo contest and the requirements of legislation that affects all EU citizens. The fact that this specific contest was designed to these rules does not mean that anyone shooting pictures in the streets is hampered in any way, or required to do anything of the sort.
A simple-minded attempt to create an uproar about absolutely nothing! If you don't like the rules (as I do), don't submit a picture and let them fail miserably at their inane attempt to come down off mount Olympus and pretend the population actually interests them.
As you may have noticed, I am not too fond of EU bureaucracy/bureaucrats but still pretty useless to try and have this stand-in as proof for any level of personal freedom of lack of it, in the EU.
I can still be an atheist and be successful in politics, I could be gay and an accomplished teacher, I can say what I want without being sued any time soon, I can commit a traffic violation without getting a gun pointed at me. As far as personal freedom is concerned, we are still somewhat ahead of the US although the gap definitely IS narrowing. This case however, is NOT an example of something that narrows that gap even more!
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Well that does it. My government engages in covert activities. Who would dream they would? And of course, since they do and they did, why all one needs to do is name Anything, no matter how bizzare, and there you go!
And Ms Bhutto, in one slip of the tongue gets iced 'cause she knows too much. A reasonable person who heard that interview, what do they know? One would think she would have repeated this...She certainly didn't SOUND like she was making a major revelation.
Did you know that Bush murdered the Pope? Yup, I can even point to the link. What more do we need to know, since we can prove other things, everything else makes sense as well.
Dave
You completely missed it. This is much more than a CIA backed coup. Vincezo Vinciguerra, who was involved, stated:
"You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security. This is the political logic that lies behind all the massacres and the bombings."
There were PHONY terrorist groups constantly doing false flag terrorist attacks all over Europe, all of them blamed them on the left.
Incidentally, last December former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, a professor of law who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, told Corriere della Sera, Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper, that the 9/11 attacks were run by the CIA, as well as another foreign intelligence outfit
Google "Cossiga 9/11"
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"You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security. This is the political logic that lies behind all the massacres and the bombings."
There were PHONY terrorist groups constantly doing false flag terrorist attacks all over Europe, all of them blamed them on the left.
Incidentally, last December former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, a professor of law who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, told Corriere della Sera, Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper, that the 9/11 attacks were run by the CIA, as well as another foreign intelligence outfit
Google "Cossiga 9/11"
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xandxor
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It's tiresome when you bandy the word "fascist" around without really knowing its full meaning. Paranoia alone is not fascism. Authoritarianism alone is not fascism. Nationalism alone is not fascism. "They heard about all those internet paedophiles" is CERTAINLY not fascistic.
You keep using the word simply to be incendiary and get attention.
Gosh Marcuson, an Italian professor states that 9/11 was done by the CIA. Well, I guess that settles the matter.
But let's take a look at what we are talkling about? According to YOU, Osama is dead. How do you know? Ms. Bhutto said so.
What then are the logical conclusions that MUST be drawn from this? Since Osama continues to stick his head up and speak, then that too must be a CIA plot. And since NO ONE in Al Qaeda challenges the authenticity of these speeches, then there is NO AL Qaeda, the whole thing is a CIA plot.
Wow Man! You sure use logic to pick through the nitty gritty of this. So the CIA Fron group, Al Qaeda took down the WTC, Bhutto spilled the beans, so She had to die as well.
You the man!
Dave
But let's take a look at what we are talkling about? According to YOU, Osama is dead. How do you know? Ms. Bhutto said so.
What then are the logical conclusions that MUST be drawn from this? Since Osama continues to stick his head up and speak, then that too must be a CIA plot. And since NO ONE in Al Qaeda challenges the authenticity of these speeches, then there is NO AL Qaeda, the whole thing is a CIA plot.
Wow Man! You sure use logic to pick through the nitty gritty of this. So the CIA Fron group, Al Qaeda took down the WTC, Bhutto spilled the beans, so She had to die as well.
You the man!
Dave
You completely missed it. This is much more than a CIA backed coup.
Vincezo Vinciguerra, who was involved, stated:
"You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent
people, unknown people. The reason was quite simple. They were
supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the
state to ask for greater security. This is the political logic that
lies behind all the massacres and the bombings."
There were PHONY terrorist groups constantly doing false flag
terrorist attacks all over Europe, all of them blamed them on the
left.
Incidentally, last December former Italian President Francesco
Cossiga, a professor of law who revealed the existence of Operation
Gladio, told Corriere della Sera, Italy’s oldest and most widely read
newspaper, that the 9/11 attacks were run by the CIA, as well as
another foreign intelligence outfit
Google "Cossiga 9/11"
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igb
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Look, this thread is already over 90 posts so we are clearly running out of space too soon.
I'll tell you what, why don't one of yous open a new thread with a photo of the (alive?) Bin Laden under a question "Blown... highlights?" and we'll go on from there.
I promise I'll inadvertently slip the words 'illuminati' and/or 'reptilian' just to spice things up if needed.
In exchange, you'll have to do it much better, Dave. For now, I'm saying "inside job", I'm sorry.
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I'll tell you what, why don't one of yous open a new thread with a photo of the (alive?) Bin Laden under a question "Blown... highlights?" and we'll go on from there.
I promise I'll inadvertently slip the words 'illuminati' and/or 'reptilian' just to spice things up if needed.
In exchange, you'll have to do it much better, Dave. For now, I'm saying "inside job", I'm sorry.
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best reply in this thread!
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Isola Verde
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What a perceptive choice of words!
Here's an earlier response to a message from this thread's OP
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=27155516&q=jonathan+rander&qf=m
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And so you ignore half of my post, namely: "There were PHONY terrorist groups constantly doing false flag terrorist attacks all over Europe, all of them blamed them on the left."
Operation Gladio (and strategy of tension) is proof that rogue government agencies have attacked and murdered innocent civilians in false flag ops. The European Parliament resolution makes that very clear. And Cossiga, who blew the whistle on it all, certainly knows a false flag when he sees one. This is why when governments take advantage of terrorist attacks, as the Bush regime has done, they should be automatically considered false flag until proven otherwise.
Yet it's not just Mr.Cossiga: there are over one hundred engineers and architects listed in the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth web site, ae911truth.org, along with many at the stj911.org site, as well as dozens of pilots (military and civilian), air traffic controllers and aeronautical engineers at pilotsfor911truth.org, all of who say the 19 Saudis with boxcutters hijacking-planes-causing-building-collapses story cannot be true.
A few more:
Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_080112_twenty_five_u_s__mil.htm
Eight U.S. State Department Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_080104_eight_u_s__state_dep.htm
Another : http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/11/911-roster.html
You do realize the ISI and the Taliban weren't exactly strangers, don't you? It's well known he was in poor health, on kidney dialysis, and there's no denying he's more useful to them alive.
General Hamid Gul, a former Director of Pakistani Intelligence, when asked what makes him think Osama wasn't behind it all, said, "From a cave inside a mountain or a peasant's hovel? Let's be serious. He doesn't have the means for such a sophisticated operation."
Did you know that the FBI has no HARD evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11?
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html
Speak in what? English? NO. Even though he speaks (or could speak) perfect English the "Osama tape" that periodically surfaces is always NOT in English.
An outfit to conduct false flag ops, to be more precise.
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Madrid's got false flag all over it.
The London Times on June 21, 2004 published an article revealing the false flag nature of it but has since removed it. It's cached here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040622063558/http://avantgo.thetimes.co.uk/services/avantgo/article/0,,1150429,00.html
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Bomb squad link in Spanish blasts
From Edward Owen in Madrid
THE man accused of supplying the dynamite used in the al-Qaeda train bombings in Madrid was in possession of the private telephone number of the head of Spain’s Civil Guard bomb squad, it emerged yesterday.
Emilio Suárez Trashorras, who is alleged to have supplied 200kg of dynamite used in the bombs, had obtained the number of Juan Jesús Sánchez Manzano, the head of Tedax.
The revelation has raised fresh concerns in Madrid about links between those held responsible for the March bombings, which killed 190 people, and Spain’s security services, and shortcomings in the police investigation. Señor Suárez Trashorras and two other men implicated in the bombings have already been identified as police informers. Other members of the group had evaded police surveillance, despite concerns within the security services about their activities and evidence of their association with al-Qaeda.
The telephone number of Señor Sánchez Manzano was contained in a Civil Guard dossier handed to Juan del Olmo, the investigating judge, at the National Court in Madrid. The number was written on a piece of paper found in the possession of Carmen Toro, the wife of Señor Suárez Trashorras. Both are in custody accused of supplying dynamite used in the Madrid bombs.
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xandxor
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Nicely summed up.
zoranT
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sorry, but you are one of those frogs if you cannot distinguish between a photo contest rule and civic law issues; it s true what you mistakenly imply, that Europeans are not a bit more advanced in regard to political education than US-Americans, and you are the best example for this implication (provided that you re European);
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