Guess the S5 IS will be replaced shortly

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Usually when prices suddenly drop a lot, in this case $100 cdn it usually signals a replacement coming..... Price dropped $100 yesterday at Best Buy and FS.

Kevin
 
B&H and J&R are both selling the S5 for $329. I am sitting patiently waiting for the S6. I have the A650 but I want more zoom. I suspect that the S6 will be 10 MP and hopefully 15x zoom.
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NewYorkEd
 
B&H and J&R are both selling the S5 for $329. I am sitting patiently
waiting for the S6. I have the A650 but I want more zoom. I suspect
that the S6 will be 10 MP and hopefully 15x zoom.
ED
Since you need more zoom - have you tried the 9.3x (5MP) and 15x (2MP) safety zoom modes on your A650? I found it to be quite decent and other than better video and a faster lens the A650 does better IQ wise than the S5 (and probably the S6 which will have 10MP's on a small sensor)
... Matt
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NewYorkEd
 
Photofreak7 wrote:
Since you need more zoom - have you tried the 9.3x (5MP) and 15x
(2MP) safety zoom modes on your A650? I found it to be quite decent
and other than better video and a faster lens the A650 does better IQ
wise than the S5 (and probably the S6 which will have 10MP's on a
small sensor)
... Matt
No, I haven’t tried those setting that you mention. I tend to keep my camera at the 12MP setting, and if necessary, if feel that I can crop.

As far as the S6 goes, I will wait to see what Canon throws at us - and, then wait to see what sort of reviews pop up, especially reviews by those that actually buy the camera. One of days the camera companies will start to produce perfect cameras. Hopefully, the S6 will come close.
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NewYorkEd
 
I also am curious/waiting to see if Canon is smart (and competitive) giving a WA lens and/or HD video on the S6IS. You'd think they'd almost have to do something in order to keep up with the other camera companies (Pan, Sony, etc..,) ... Matt
Photofreak7 wrote:
Since you need more zoom - have you tried the 9.3x (5MP) and 15x
(2MP) safety zoom modes on your A650? I found it to be quite decent
and other than better video and a faster lens the A650 does better IQ
wise than the S5 (and probably the S6 which will have 10MP's on a
small sensor)
... Matt
No, I haven’t tried those setting that you mention. I tend to keep
my camera at the 12MP setting, and if necessary, if feel that I can
crop.
As far as the S6 goes, I will wait to see what Canon throws at us -
and, then wait to see what sort of reviews pop up, especially reviews
by those that actually buy the camera. One of days the camera
companies will start to produce perfect cameras. Hopefully, the S6
will come close.
ED

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NewYorkEd
 
Office Depot has just dropped the price of the S5IS to $299.99, starting tomorrow, Sunday 3/16. When OD does that, it's a sure sign it's being replaced soon. Also the S-series have always been introduced in late winter (Feb) or early spring (April-May).

The question is will the S6 be a step forward or a step backwards. You can't always count on forward.

--mamallama
 
If it's basically the same camera with more mp, it will be a pointless upgrade. At least the S5 offered a hotshoe. The S6 needs something other than just heaping more mp on a tiny sensor - wider zoom or HD video, something to set it apart from the S5.

Mark
 
The flash hot shoe and video capability is the only thing(s) keeping the S5 afloat IMO - Canon did right by delaying the S5 release to add the flash hot shoe -but- I think (especially) this next time/model they really need to do something else or risk losing ground in the UZ market (just my opinion of course) ... Matt
If it's basically the same camera with more mp, it will be a
pointless upgrade. At least the S5 offered a hotshoe. The S6 needs
something other than just heaping more mp on a tiny sensor - wider
zoom or HD video, something to set it apart from the S5.

Mark
 
they really need to do something else or risk losing ground in the UZ
market (just my opinion of course) ... Matt
Yes, your opinion, and it's baseless. Because you see the UZ as competition doesn't mean they do. Canon will do what makes business sense. Adding more zoom from 12 to more, is pointless if it kills their bottom line or quality of picture.
 
they really need to do something else or risk losing ground in the UZ
market (just my opinion of course) ... Matt
Yes, your opinion, and it's baseless. Because you see the UZ as
competition doesn't mean they do. Canon will do what makes business
sense. Adding more zoom from 12 to more, is pointless if it kills
their bottom line or quality of picture.
Yes it's my opinion but actually I've heard many here say that a WA lens and/or HD video is needed at this point in the game (from Canon) But I do agree with you that if it impacts IQ negatively then it's better to let it off the camera. The 'S' series will still continue to be a good seller (and probably even the S6) but for how much longer if Canon doesn't up the anty a bit? They are increasing the MP's like everyone else so it makes sense they will eventually upgrade the lens (which admittedly is now being pushed a bit at 8MP's) and possibly the video (which is already excellent) Again just my opinion - if that's OK... Matt
 
I'm betting that Canon goes for HD video. It's quite good in the tiny TX1. Also hoping they might do 15x zoom and maybe a larger LCD,.........actually, they could do these improvements in any of their A series cameras and have a real winner.

As a happy user of the TX1, I will admit that the tiny LCD is somewhat of a problem. The S series will obviously keep the EVF. I wish all these P and S cameras had a viewfinder.
 
Yes it's my opinion but actually I've heard many here say that a WA
You've heard "many here say". And those people are other non-Canon employees who know nothing about what they will release. Canon is an amazingly greedy company that has done the unexpectedly heartless thing before, so don't think that a few hopeful souls in an online forum means an iota to Canon. That's giving yourself WAY too much credit.

I just hope the camera doesn't LOSE features.
 
Enough speculation on what we would like.

What features are likely to be lost due to a marketing lead stuff up?

I am guessing that the very useful flip/movable screen has a limited future with the trend towards larger screens. Good reason to keep my S3is.

What else is on the stuff up list?

Sensor size stay the same, more pixels, noise reduction intrudes.
Longer zoom but not down at the wide angle end. (gotta sell the accessory lens)
More direct print, movie mode and automatic buttons cluttering the back.

Lots of recognition software (face, smile, etc) but nothing that would pick a good photo out from the dross.

Battery moves from AA's to something less readily availible and bloody expensive.

Availible with slip on mobile phone type coloured covers. Ten vulgar colours availible.
 
Enough speculation on what we would like.

What features are likely to be lost due to a marketing lead stuff up?

I am guessing that the very useful flip/movable screen has a limited
future with the trend towards larger screens. Good reason to keep my
S3is.
The movable screen was eliminated already (with the G7) in favor of a larger LCD.

Mark
 
Enough speculation on what we would like.

What features are likely to be lost due to a marketing lead stuff up?

I am guessing that the very useful flip/movable screen has a limited
future with the trend towards larger screens. Good reason to keep my
S3is.
The movable screen was eliminated already (with the G7) in favor of a
larger LCD.
Man I really hope Canon doesn't do this - go to a fixed screen on the next 'S' camera. I mean the 'S' series have been known for their 'hybrid' ability (P&S/video) -and- the very capable vari-angle/flip LCD - which is great for videos and macros. I for one would be fine if they kept the LCD just the way it is - the S5's LCD was a great upgrade to the S3's IMO - in use it is ions better and needs no improvement IMO. IF they do anything then -just- raise the resolution. Just my 2 cents... Matt
 
The vari screen is the main reason I got my S5! For me the EVF needs to be a lot better, my Olympus SP500 has a better one. Also Canon should think hard about a wider zoom - a bigger sensor would give you that of course, if they could squeeze it in. Horrible feeling the S6IS will have 12 MP!!! So maybe 10MP on a bigger sensor, 28mm equivalent - 450mm zoom, upgraded EVF. Keep the hotshoe and the variscreen, bigger buffer/faster processor to up the continuous frame rate. Don't mind if the body is a tad bigger...aa's good for me, but put the SD card in a seperate slot again please!
We can live in hope!
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Everything changes
 
Enough speculation on what we would like.

What features are likely to be lost due to a marketing lead stuff up?

I am guessing that the very useful flip/movable screen has a limited
future with the trend towards larger screens. Good reason to keep my
S3is.
I think you are wrong, not the least of which that this is one of the differentiators between the S series and other types. They will keep this.
Sensor size stay the same, more pixels, noise reduction intrudes.
Longer zoom but not down at the wide angle end. (gotta sell the
accessory lens)
Disagree about longer zoom. I think this will stay the same. Why change it?
Battery moves from AA's to something less readily availible and
bloody expensive.
Doubtful.
 
Hi all,

yesterday I visited two of our larger electronic stores here in Germany and in both the Canon S5is was not available anymore. In the first store I was told that they gave a discount on the last S5 they had earlier this week because of store rebuilding (in fact the price was not that good) while in the second the shop assistant confirmed that they sold out this model which was part of their product range at my last visit some weeks ago. Now the camera were still available but he would order it only against customer orders and at this point he were not even able to tell me the current price and lead time. My question if there will be a new model coming out soon he did not clearly answer but he tried to point me to one of the Panasonic cameras they had on stock.

I might be wrong but from my feeling both stores seem to slowly sell off the S5is before a new model is announced and I think that this is not too far away anymore since the prices start to fall in the Internet shops, too. I personally will postpone the buying of a new camera by one or two months to see what Canon will do with a new model and if nothing happens I'm going to take the S5 then.

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best regards,
Maverick2k
 
... based on when the other 'S' models were announced. Up to the S5 Canon was consistent -but- the S5 was a bit later - just before summer (I believe May?) so my guess is between now and May - assuming the series will continue. BTW IMO the S5 was delayed to add the flash hot shoe - again just my opinion... Matt
Hi all,

yesterday I visited two of our larger electronic stores here in
Germany and in both the Canon S5is was not available anymore. In the
first store I was told that they gave a discount on the last S5 they
had earlier this week because of store rebuilding (in fact the price
was not that good) while in the second the shop assistant confirmed
that they sold out this model which was part of their product range
at my last visit some weeks ago. Now the camera were still available
but he would order it only against customer orders and at this point
he were not even able to tell me the current price and lead time. My
question if there will be a new model coming out soon he did not
clearly answer but he tried to point me to one of the Panasonic
cameras they had on stock.

I might be wrong but from my feeling both stores seem to slowly sell
off the S5is before a new model is announced and I think that this is
not too far away anymore since the prices start to fall in the
Internet shops, too. I personally will postpone the buying of a new
camera by one or two months to see what Canon will do with a new
model and if nothing happens I'm going to take the S5 then.

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best regards,
Maverick2k
 

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