They do not have "almost identical specs." That's the whole point.
Hm, maybe not since aside from the fixed 28mm lens in a compact camera that offers a hotshoe with an external OVF and full manual controls the GRD has a lot more features to offer (leveler, b&w modes, adapter lenses, etc.)
.Both cameras target people who know what they do and want a small compact camera the offers full control over the image you get. You can get either camera and still value image quality since both offer great image quality although both "draw" the image in different ways if you so want. Valuing image quality does not mean pixel peeping and having noise free images. IQ for me depends on low distortion, the contrast the lens offers, sharpness and the colors produced and there the GRD is equal and better (for distortion). Ricoh users value the IQ a lot and this is exactly why they have a Ricoh camera since they value exactly this look and quality. Does not make them wrong and neither does it make you wrong for thinking that only Sigma offers acceptable IQ for YOU! I do not like the overly saturated colors I see posted here but I could work around when PP them and I would add a lot more noise to the DP1 images than I do with the GRD images since I want a specific look.
In sum you are right but both the smalll compact camera and the dSLR will have advantages over the DP1. The DP1 does a bit of both but is not specialized in either, which is not necessary a bad thing.
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Yes, but, from my brief use of it (and understanding what it is) the 'foibles' seem exaggerated by those who haven't used it extensively in the field, so to speak.
I don't think 'design' will give us what we want... the perfect camera for all occasions and all mm distances. You cannot fit the tele- capabilities into the compact body with the DSLR-sensor.
Maybe but how many of those modes will actually be used regularly?
The DP1 can use adapter lenses too...There is a 46mm filter thread on the lenshood.adapter lenses, etc.)
Huh?...Going by Ricoh's official sample images that obviously cannot be the case!
The Foveon DP1 does'nt produce overly satuarted colours....It produces natural colours but users can increase the saturation in SPP and I would'nt be supprised that many do because they prefer that look...Theres no accounting for taste.
And this sums up perfectly why both cameras have their place and deliver very good IQ within their limits.
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I agree on the lens mount however there have been countless threads here on why that wouldn't be good for Sigma and I'll leave it at that.
) as every wrinkle and zit shows up clearly so some blurring may be necessary in post processing if you hope to ever get a chance to shoot that same subject again
The GRD lens is about 1 1/2 stops faster than the DP1 lens, so it would be fair to compare a GRD ISO 400 image to a DP1 ISO 800 image pushed half a stop in post. That plus the fact that the GRD image noise characteristics will improve quite a bit after downsampling to 4.65MP.
Rubbish is too kind.
There is no need to use inflammatory language or be insulting. Downsizing, upsizing, and printing at the same size are all different ways to get at the same issue, which is comparing on an equal playing field. None of these methods is perfect. Even the gold standard, printing, is dependent on the quality of the scaling used to achieve the final print resolution. Downsizing a GRD image to 4.7MP is perfectly reasonable, because a 14MP Foveon X3 image is no better than an upsized version of the native 4.7MP image. If a GRD II file downsized to 4.7MP looks as good as a DP1 image at 4.7MP, and I'm not saying that it will, then it logically follows that the GRD II image will upscale just as well. There's no magic new detail that appears when you choose to upscale a Foveon image.
Any printer that does A0 prints will be printing above the native resolution, so that is a contradiction. Provided that the upscaling method is the same, that would in fact be the best way to compare them.How about native resolutions, A0 size prints?
