What have I done? ...and what would you do?

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I've owned a D40 for almost a year now. Shot 10,000 frames so far.

Yesterday I was in the area, so I stopped at B&H to mess around with cameras. Then I did something potentially dangerous: I handled the D300 at the Nikon table.

It was awesome. It sat just right in my hands, the LCD and viewfinder were great, the controls were so responsive and intuitive. I thought, This is a camera I could shoot day after day, year after year, and not have to think about upgrading, and never feel camera-limited.

When I bought the D40 it seemed big and heavy to me, but that was because I was used to compacts. It's a bit small for my hands, so my pinky is always dangling off the edge, and since I started lifting weights, the bigger cameras suddenly don't seem heavy at all anymore, but instead feel more stable.

I shoot almost entirely with primes, so I have AF-D lenses that will require a camera upgrade to autofocus. I have some old AIS manual lenses which would be much easier to focus with a bigger viewfinder.

That said, I've been waiting for the D80 upgrade, because it seems a waste to get a D80 now with an update coming soon and when I already have a great camera in the D40.

Now, looking at the D300, I'm thinking, why not "skip the middle man"? I could keep the D40 as the backup and for casual stuff, and use the D300 for serious work. The D300 is available now, while the D80 successor might not be around until Christmas. The D300 would also give me metering with my AIS lenses. I worry that if I get a D80/D90 in 2008, later on I may want a D300 and wish I had gotten it from the beginning (the way I frequently wish I'd bought a D80 instead of a D40). The D300 is a lot of money, though -- almost 4 times what I paid for my car back in college. Not a purchase to be made lightly.

What would you do?
 
If you can afford it, get the D300. If you can't quite afford one, but could stretch to a D80 successor if it was available now, buy a D200. ;)
 
I know what you mean. After six months with the D80 I handled a D200 and boy... But the price difference was more than I was willing to stretch.

Only you can make the choice, but really, never upgrade again? I fear that at the pace things go, a D300 might be good for 5 years and then the itch for an upgrade might just be to hard not to scratch. So, can you afford it as a five year plan?

Lastly, how would you have felt overtime should you have spend four times as much on the car you bought in college? Would it have given you four times as much satisfaction/longevity?

--
Lito
D80 + Mac :)

 
Thanks for your thoughts. I didn't mean "never upgrade again," but the next in the Dxxx line probably won't come around for 2+ years and it makes sense to skip a generation.

Actually, my car in college was a mess and I should stop comparing it to other purchases. I sold it when I graduated and now it delivers pizza.
I know what you mean. After six months with the D80 I handled a D200
and boy... But the price difference was more than I was willing to
stretch.

Only you can make the choice, but really, never upgrade again? I fear
that at the pace things go, a D300 might be good for 5 years and then
the itch for an upgrade might just be to hard not to scratch. So, can
you afford it as a five year plan?

Lastly, how would you have felt overtime should you have spend four
times as much on the car you bought in college? Would it have given
you four times as much satisfaction/longevity?

--
Lito
D80 + Mac :)

 
Buy the D300 and in a few months write a similar post about the D400 or 500 or something like that :-)

Technology will keep changing and the next camera will be better than the current. Buy the D300 if you can afford it and only if you really feel you need it.

When I saw the D300 I had the same reaction as yours. But I have much to learn. So for now I will stick to my D80, learn, buy good glass, and then one day move to a "bigger meaner" camera.
 
This is kind of why in hindsight I think I should have bought the D80 in the first place. Then I would only have 1 promotion, if any, to tempt me.
Buy the D300 and in a few months write a similar post about the D400
or 500 or something like that :-)

Technology will keep changing and the next camera will be better than
the current. Buy the D300 if you can afford it and only if you
really feel you need it.

When I saw the D300 I had the same reaction as yours. But I have
much to learn. So for now I will stick to my D80, learn, buy good
glass, and then one day move to a "bigger meaner" camera.
 
I've just bought a D80...

I can afford a D300, and for that very reason I refused to look/handle one in the shop. I'm the happiest man alive with my current choice! You made the ultimate mistake - you HANDLED the D300! Now that nagging thing at the back of your mind WON'T go away until you've bought one.

Go back to the store first thing and get the D300. Not only will you satisfy your soul, you'll save yourself a lot of sleepless nights.

I'm so glad I didn't handle it. I love my D80!

Good luck - and enjoy your D300! :)
--
Never assume the next man has intelligence equal to yours. He may have more.
 
Once you go down that line of thought, forget it!

Besides, you deserve it :)

Along the way, get a 17-55 too!
I've owned a D40 for almost a year now. Shot 10,000 frames so far.

Yesterday I was in the area, so I stopped at B&H to mess around with
cameras. Then I did something potentially dangerous: I handled the
D300 at the Nikon table.

It was awesome. It sat just right in my hands, the LCD and viewfinder
were great, the controls were so responsive and intuitive. I thought,
This is a camera I could shoot day after day, year after year, and
not have to think about upgrading, and never feel camera-limited.

When I bought the D40 it seemed big and heavy to me, but that was
because I was used to compacts. It's a bit small for my hands, so my
pinky is always dangling off the edge, and since I started lifting
weights, the bigger cameras suddenly don't seem heavy at all anymore,
but instead feel more stable.

I shoot almost entirely with primes, so I have AF-D lenses that will
require a camera upgrade to autofocus. I have some old AIS manual
lenses which would be much easier to focus with a bigger viewfinder.

That said, I've been waiting for the D80 upgrade, because it seems a
waste to get a D80 now with an update coming soon and when I already
have a great camera in the D40.

Now, looking at the D300, I'm thinking, why not "skip the middle
man"? I could keep the D40 as the backup and for casual stuff, and
use the D300 for serious work. The D300 is available now, while the
D80 successor might not be around until Christmas. The D300 would
also give me metering with my AIS lenses. I worry that if I get a
D80/D90 in 2008, later on I may want a D300 and wish I had gotten it
from the beginning (the way I frequently wish I'd bought a D80
instead of a D40). The D300 is a lot of money, though -- almost 4
times what I paid for my car back in college. Not a purchase to be
made lightly.

What would you do?
--
Regards, RHLPedrosa

 
Heh, thanks for that! After focusing manually with most of my lenses for 4 months, perhaps I do deserve, well, something. Just kidding, good pictures are the best reward, and I've got those, to my standards at least.

My dad and my girlfriend both support this idea, which makes it even harder to resist.
Besides, you deserve it :)

Along the way, get a 17-55 too!
I've owned a D40 for almost a year now. Shot 10,000 frames so far.

Yesterday I was in the area, so I stopped at B&H to mess around with
cameras. Then I did something potentially dangerous: I handled the
D300 at the Nikon table.

It was awesome. It sat just right in my hands, the LCD and viewfinder
were great, the controls were so responsive and intuitive. I thought,
This is a camera I could shoot day after day, year after year, and
not have to think about upgrading, and never feel camera-limited.

When I bought the D40 it seemed big and heavy to me, but that was
because I was used to compacts. It's a bit small for my hands, so my
pinky is always dangling off the edge, and since I started lifting
weights, the bigger cameras suddenly don't seem heavy at all anymore,
but instead feel more stable.

I shoot almost entirely with primes, so I have AF-D lenses that will
require a camera upgrade to autofocus. I have some old AIS manual
lenses which would be much easier to focus with a bigger viewfinder.

That said, I've been waiting for the D80 upgrade, because it seems a
waste to get a D80 now with an update coming soon and when I already
have a great camera in the D40.

Now, looking at the D300, I'm thinking, why not "skip the middle
man"? I could keep the D40 as the backup and for casual stuff, and
use the D300 for serious work. The D300 is available now, while the
D80 successor might not be around until Christmas. The D300 would
also give me metering with my AIS lenses. I worry that if I get a
D80/D90 in 2008, later on I may want a D300 and wish I had gotten it
from the beginning (the way I frequently wish I'd bought a D80
instead of a D40). The D300 is a lot of money, though -- almost 4
times what I paid for my car back in college. Not a purchase to be
made lightly.

What would you do?
--
Regards, RHLPedrosa

 
Heh, thanks for that! After focusing manually with most of my lenses
for 4 months, perhaps I do deserve, well, something. Just kidding,
good pictures are the best reward, and I've got those, to my
standards at least.

My dad and my girlfriend both support this idea, which makes it even
harder to resist.
What are you waiting for then!??? Resisting is at best foolish in that situation. ;)
--
Regards, RHLPedrosa

 
If you make money out of it, it makes more sense to upgrade. I mean, if you make money out of your photographs by shooting weddings or other events.

Otherwise, it is solely how much you cherish the pleasure of using a D300 against the $2000. If you think you would rather go to Hawaii with that $2000 and get great pictures with the D40, then....

You are not buying this, are you? Oh, hell, go waste your $2000, buy that stupid D300, and take some .... stupendous pictures!!!
My dad and my girlfriend both support this idea, which makes it even
harder to resist.
Did I tell you that you are the luckiest son of a gun??

--
Raghu Kadava
http://picasaweb.google.com/dee70s
Heh, thanks for that! After focusing manually with most of my lenses
for 4 months, perhaps I do deserve, well, something. Just kidding,
good pictures are the best reward, and I've got those, to my
standards at least.

My dad and my girlfriend both support this idea, which makes it even
harder to resist.
 
If you make money out of it, it makes more sense to upgrade. I mean,
if you make money out of your photographs by shooting weddings or
other events.
I'm not a pro, but I have sold prints of my work.
Otherwise, it is solely how much you cherish the pleasure of using a
D300 against the $2000. If you think you would rather go to Hawaii
with that $2000 and get great pictures with the D40, then....
Going out and taking pictures makes me happy, and if I can make the experience more pleasurable, it pays off in its own way. I don't have enough time off to go all the way to Hawaii yet, anyway.
You are not buying this, are you? Oh, hell, go waste your $2000, buy
that stupid D300, and take some .... stupendous pictures!!!
I haven't decided yet, but in case there's any confusion, I don't live with my parents or get any money from them to fund this hobby. This would come straight out of my paycheck.
My dad and my girlfriend both support this idea, which makes it even
harder to resist.
Did I tell you that you are the luckiest son of a gun??
I am pretty lucky to have a girlfriend who encourages my photography and the expenses that go along with it. Peace
--
Raghu Kadava
http://picasaweb.google.com/dee70s
Heh, thanks for that! After focusing manually with most of my lenses
for 4 months, perhaps I do deserve, well, something. Just kidding,
good pictures are the best reward, and I've got those, to my
standards at least.

My dad and my girlfriend both support this idea, which makes it even
harder to resist.
 
I keep toying with the D300 idea also. I would not consider getting rid of my D40, the 300 would just be an add on to my collection. I also would encourage skipping the middlemen and going straight to the 300. What I am afraid of is that I would find out that I still preferred the images from the D40 and know ahead of time that I prefer the size of the D40 and there would sit a perfectly good D300 holding down some papers on my desk. That's what happened with my D40X. I actually do use it for my carry around, beat around point and shoot though, because it is still small like the D40. I now keep the D40 for the special times I really want the best images.

Anyway, if you go on and get the D300, then in a month or so after the new wears off let me know if it actually does make better images and if you pack it around like you would the 40. Then I will have something to go on.
 
Okay, if I get the D300, I'll try to let you know how it goes. The size and weight is certainly a consideration, mainly for social settings.
I keep toying with the D300 idea also. I would not consider getting
rid of my D40, the 300 would just be an add on to my collection. I
also would encourage skipping the middlemen and going straight to the
300. What I am afraid of is that I would find out that I still
preferred the images from the D40 and know ahead of time that I
prefer the size of the D40 and there would sit a perfectly good D300
holding down some papers on my desk. That's what happened with my
D40X. I actually do use it for my carry around, beat around point and
shoot though, because it is still small like the D40. I now keep the
D40 for the special times I really want the best images.
Anyway, if you go on and get the D300, then in a month or so after
the new wears off let me know if it actually does make better images
and if you pack it around like you would the 40. Then I will have
something to go on.
 
"Lastly, how would you have felt overtime should you have spend four times as much on the car you bought in college? Would it have given you four times as much satisfaction/longevity?"
Ouch! Sound like my wife there!
--
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever.”
Lance Armstrong
 
"Lastly, how would you have felt overtime should you have spend four
times as much on the car you bought in college? Would it have given
you four times as much satisfaction/longevity?"
Ouch! Sound like my wife there!
--
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever.”
Lance Armstrong
LOL... I should share this with my wife. She would be proud of me :P

--
Lito
D80 + Mac :)

 
Thanks everybody for giving your two cents. I've now been to B&H several times to handle the camera and talk to their great reps about any questions still lingering. I've been eyeing this machine for a long time now -- heck, I even read the manual at Nikon's website. The users here have given the best reviews I could ask for: their photos.

Can't wait to get behind the wheel of the D300. I'll let y'all know how it goes.
 
Just very happy for your ability to move to the D300!
Hang around(if you can) and show us some of Your pics.
--
David



. . . shoot like there's no film in the thing!
 
Thanks David. I've been lurking and posting from time to time in this forum for a year, and I'll probably keep doing so. My dad offered to buy my D40 but it'll be a hard camera to part with...
Just very happy for your ability to move to the D300!
Hang around(if you can) and show us some of Your pics.
--
David
 

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