sarhento
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Phil's D100 Sample Gallery
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jeff-c
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There is at least one picture taken with the king of Nikon wide angle zoom: AF-S 17-35/2.8 and a few other with the AF 80-400 VR which is not the best of the lense either.
David SL
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All I have to say is, well I felt it was "likely" the image quality would be better than the beta images we've all seen last week. The funny thing is ..hey!, this is still beta! ...hmm..same firmware as the previous Japanese samples released but even sharper. Look at the resolution performance, excellent. Low noise at high ISO's is simply astonishing this is exactly the type of performance Nikon needed and they did it on all counts. I think Nikon has made my first DSLR decision for me.
Kudos Nikon!
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William Faulkner
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Well, from what I saw things look pretty good for users of Nikon lenses. Bring up the S2, SD-9, Contax and let's have a true 2002 trifecta.
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Jason Busch
Veteran Member
David,
You are free to come over to my place and share in the Pre-Production Party I am hosting.
For entertainment, I have photos of the D100 and we can pretend to take pictures. As an added bonus, I also have printouts of the not-yet-available accessories for the D100.
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You are free to come over to my place and share in the Pre-Production Party I am hosting.
For entertainment, I have photos of the D100 and we can pretend to take pictures. As an added bonus, I also have printouts of the not-yet-available accessories for the D100.
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mrwally
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Trust me, I noted it. There's hope yet that I can get really good pics without totally wiping out the kid's college fund on lens.
Rick
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Mike Malloy
Leading Member
As a very happy Canon D60 owner I must say "Nikon it looks like you delivered the goods!" From viewing the Phil's samples I would have no hesitation putting in my order for a D100. It looks like it's down to what glass you own. If neither flip a coin My Dad owns an N80 and he has been asking me about the D100. I now feel confident in saying "put your order in".
Thanks Phil for a great job bringing us this information.
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My Dad owns an N80 and he has been asking me about the D100. I now feel confident in saying "put your order in".Thanks Phil for a great job bringing us this information.
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Mike Malloy - Canon D60, 28-135 IS
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Riaan Jutte
Leading Member
The images certainly compare well against the D60. I'm currently using the excellent Olympus E-10, but am very frustrated by it's very slow write times. My main criteria for a replacement was thus: No more than 1 second delay between shots, even if buffer is full, and it must have a PC terminal. Good build quality is a plus. I'm going for the D60 because of the following reasons, in order of importance:
1. The D60 can buffer 8 JPG/RAW shots, and be ready again in 1 sec.
2. D60 has PC terminal.
3. I prefer the smooth CMOS look.
4. D60 has completely metal chassis, and is very sturdy.
5. I prefer the 1.6x multiplier, as I don't use wide-angle in the studio.
6. D60's CMOS has less tendancy to gather dust.
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Kiran P
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please please, four minute exposure!
pixel bug
Active member
The images in Phil's gallery are sharp, colorful and all we need to see that the D100 will be an excellent camera. This camera combined with good optics will produce amazing results. Now its just a matter of time before Nikon starts shipping.
Luis
Luis
Robert Holloway
Senior Member
Camera to camera variations? Lets hope Nikon's QC to be strong on this one.
Regards,
Rado
Paul W. Walters
Senior Member
I was SO excited when the X3 technology came out! It seemed like any camera not having that technology would be lost! I still feel that the Fovean technology is great, and could add some wonderful improvements. However, with the latest batch of DSLR cameras, and especially these pictures that Phil posted, I really think the X3 chip arrived a little late. The quality able to be achieved with the standard CCD technology is just getting awfully good! Sure, I see some of the artifacts associated with the interpolation involved, but they are so small and so seldom and...
As much as I thought when I first read the news about Fovean that I would not spend any money on something that didn't have that technology, I expect that I WILL buy me one of these Nikons.
Oh my Gosh the high ISO quality is impressive! And the noise level is so low on all the pictures. I actually downloaded all the pictures and checked them out without reading the ISO information on the pictures. I then zoomed in on them and was favorably impressed. After that I read a post in this thread that said "Even up to 1000 is good!" and I quickly went back to check the ISO on the images. The images taken at 1000 and 800, etc., were so clean that I didn't even realize they were high ISO!
Anyway, good job Nikon. Keep this kind of work up! And stop your silly teasing about the toys you put out (i.e. "coolpix 3"). That's NOT interesting, but quality like this D100 IS interesting.
Paul
As much as I thought when I first read the news about Fovean that I would not spend any money on something that didn't have that technology, I expect that I WILL buy me one of these Nikons.
Oh my Gosh the high ISO quality is impressive! And the noise level is so low on all the pictures. I actually downloaded all the pictures and checked them out without reading the ISO information on the pictures. I then zoomed in on them and was favorably impressed. After that I read a post in this thread that said "Even up to 1000 is good!" and I quickly went back to check the ISO on the images. The images taken at 1000 and 800, etc., were so clean that I didn't even realize they were high ISO!
Anyway, good job Nikon. Keep this kind of work up! And stop your silly teasing about the toys you put out (i.e. "coolpix 3"). That's NOT interesting, but quality like this D100 IS interesting.
Paul
Anthony Medici
Veteran Member
So what lenses would you use when you walk into a church or a museum? These are two of my more often used lenses...
Tony
Tony
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Bob Williams
Guest
The images are very good, but I am still disturbed by a
couple of things. One, there is still a dark noise in the
shadows. Two, the res charts still show the fuzzy soft
edges where there is high contrast in at least two shots.
Three, any dark area drops off to black with no detal at
all very very quickly. They sure are one heck of a lot better
than what we were looking at last week, and the D100
looks very promising now. Don't get me wrong. I don't give
the D60 images perfect grades either!
couple of things. One, there is still a dark noise in the
shadows. Two, the res charts still show the fuzzy soft
edges where there is high contrast in at least two shots.
Three, any dark area drops off to black with no detal at
all very very quickly. They sure are one heck of a lot better
than what we were looking at last week, and the D100
looks very promising now. Don't get me wrong. I don't give
the D60 images perfect grades either!
As much as I thought when I first read the news about Fovean that I
would not spend any money on something that didn't have that
technology, I expect that I WILL buy me one of these Nikons.
Oh my Gosh the high ISO quality is impressive! And the noise level
is so low on all the pictures. I actually downloaded all the
pictures and checked them out without reading the ISO information
on the pictures. I then zoomed in on them and was favorably
impressed. After that I read a post in this thread that said "Even
up to 1000 is good!" and I quickly went back to check the ISO on
the images. The images taken at 1000 and 800, etc., were so clean
that I didn't even realize they were high ISO!
Anyway, good job Nikon. Keep this kind of work up! And stop your
silly teasing about the toys you put out (i.e. "coolpix 3").
That's NOT interesting, but quality like this D100 IS interesting.
Paul
Tom May
Senior Member
Paul,
I have to second that. It's probable that another generation of CCD and CMOS imagers will be announced at PMA, providing still more resolution and better image quality. At some point, the marketing battle will shift to secondary issues and features, rather than image quality. This makes it really tough for Foveon to establish a profitable beachhead against the likes of Canon or Nikon, though a lower price could still make some difference.
Call me mister conservative, but I'm going with the D100.
I have to second that. It's probable that another generation of CCD and CMOS imagers will be announced at PMA, providing still more resolution and better image quality. At some point, the marketing battle will shift to secondary issues and features, rather than image quality. This makes it really tough for Foveon to establish a profitable beachhead against the likes of Canon or Nikon, though a lower price could still make some difference.
Call me mister conservative, but I'm going with the D100.
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Ron Parr
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I'm wondering if the sample used for the previous set had a different (too aggressive) low pass filter.
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Ron Parr
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I agree. The D100 is back in the game, but I'm not ready to pick any winners yet.
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jeff-c
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I assume you will need wide angle and there are couple choices:
AF-S 17-35/2.8 is the king of wide angle zoom in Nikon's world, some claims it's better than some of the primes in the range. I only have it for a few months and have not put it enough rolls to enjoy it. It's not cheap though, runs about $1400.
AF 18-35/3.5-4.5 is a cheaper alternative ($490). I haven't used it before but a few friends of mine have them. According various opinions it's a decent wide angle zoom and the only issue is it tends to flare so watch out where the light comes from.
For primes you won't go wrong with the AF 20/2.8 which I also have. It's much smaller than the 17-35 and build is solid. It runs about $480. There're two wider primes: AF 18/2.8 and AF 14/2.8, neither is cheap.
While it's good wide angle for the film body and becomes a normal lense with the 1.5x FOV factor, the AF 28/1.4 I recently acquired is the best wide angle prime. The large aperture allows low light shooting, although the excellent D100 high ISO behavior may negate the benefit of this most expensive (except the long lenses) Nikkor prime at about $1680.
For really wide in film and just normal wide with 1.5x, the AF 14/2.8 should do the job. It's not cheap though at $1300. The 1.5x FOV factor really hurts in the wide angle end.
If you don't care about wide angle, the cheap $80 AF 50/1.8D is something every Nikon owner should have. Its optics is very good and it's so cheap you won't feel the pain when losing it.
AF-S 17-35/2.8 is the king of wide angle zoom in Nikon's world, some claims it's better than some of the primes in the range. I only have it for a few months and have not put it enough rolls to enjoy it. It's not cheap though, runs about $1400.
AF 18-35/3.5-4.5 is a cheaper alternative ($490). I haven't used it before but a few friends of mine have them. According various opinions it's a decent wide angle zoom and the only issue is it tends to flare so watch out where the light comes from.
For primes you won't go wrong with the AF 20/2.8 which I also have. It's much smaller than the 17-35 and build is solid. It runs about $480. There're two wider primes: AF 18/2.8 and AF 14/2.8, neither is cheap.
While it's good wide angle for the film body and becomes a normal lense with the 1.5x FOV factor, the AF 28/1.4 I recently acquired is the best wide angle prime. The large aperture allows low light shooting, although the excellent D100 high ISO behavior may negate the benefit of this most expensive (except the long lenses) Nikkor prime at about $1680.
For really wide in film and just normal wide with 1.5x, the AF 14/2.8 should do the job. It's not cheap though at $1300. The 1.5x FOV factor really hurts in the wide angle end.
If you don't care about wide angle, the cheap $80 AF 50/1.8D is something every Nikon owner should have. Its optics is very good and it's so cheap you won't feel the pain when losing it.
sarhento
Forum Enthusiast
Don't count out the AFS 28-70 which has become the standard lens on my D1x. I just placed an order for 85mm 1.8. These lenses would do well on D100. Incidentally, Phil used the 24-85 AFS in most of his samples. That looks like a beaut also.
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