A $150 Camera is almost the same as $5,000 Camera

What I get is that someone who just wants a few quick pictures can get away with the $150 camera in some cases. There are many scenarios where the primise falls on it's backside.

I find Ken entertaining. I don't believe everything he says, but he can be a good read.

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Al Patterson
 
Come with me to a race and let's compare photos afterwards. Follow me
on an assignment to shoot a vehicle, and then blow the shots up to
20x30 or more, and let's talk comparable.

Possibly, in perfect conditions with a stationary or near stationary
subject, a 150 buck camera comes close to what you can produce for
web use or 4x6, or maybe even 5x7, prints, but otherwise, it's simply
not a contest. Pushing such blather is what makes Rockwell something
of a Clown Prince of digital photo writers.
If you read the article, that's what Rockwell is saying; for most
people, most of the time, a P&S will give results that are
equivalent, or close to, a more expensive camera. You are right; a
P&S will never equal a DSLR for speed or large prints.
Probably hard for him to understand that that is why P&S cameras sell about 5,000 times as many as DSLRs. My wife wouldn't have a DSLR, but she likes her little Canon A460, and is smart enough to not make idiotic comparisons.

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Charlie Self
http://www.charlieselfonline.com

 
for a point and shoot to be just as good as a dslr. They will only be just as good in a limited amount of ways though as dslr offers many more freedoms

but it seems to me what you are comparing as you move your mouse over the picture is exposure and not the quility of either camera. It seems he showed how to expose a point and shoot and how not to expose a canon 5d

As far as making 4x6 prints , we have all knew for a long time that a dslr was over kill for such
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Tom
Photography is the hobby that you can legally shoot people and blown them up
see my ugly pics at :
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this author claims and tries to justify that a $150 Camera is almost
the same as $5,000 Camera

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/150-vs-5000-dollar-camera.htm
The guy has one post where he writes that megapixels don't matter.

Then there's another post where he writes that digital is woefully inferior to the much higher resolution of large format film.

Resolution apparently only doesn't matter when digital cameras are compared to other digital cameras. When digital is compared to large format film, suddenly resolution trumps everything.

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Big Mike
http://www.bigmikephotoblog.com
 
How's it hangin'?
this author claims and tries to justify that a $150 Camera is almost
the same as $5,000 Camera

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/150-vs-5000-dollar-camera.htm

do you agree?
Of course I agree. For deep DOF pics in good light at 768x539 I don't think there's much of a difference at all. And, let's be honest, that's pretty much the type of pics lots of people take.

Why would anyone disagree?

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--joe

http://www.josephjamesphotography.com
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he makes a good point. there's way too much obsession over technical details and specifications.
 
When did people stop using common sense? Is a a Porsche the same as a
Honda? Well, for a trip to the grocery store they are identical (well
the Honda has more trunk space and gets better MPH, so I guess it's
better.)
Yes, my Mazda Miata is a lot better than a Porshe Boxster. Besides routine maintenance, the Miata only had one mechanical problem in eight years, and a mom & pop auto repair place fixed it for less than $200.

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Big Mike
http://www.bigmikephotoblog.com
 
This is an absolutely TRUE statement IF you use film and the same lenses. Film doesn't know the difference between a $20. beater and a new F6.
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' You don't have to have the best of everything to get the best out of what you do have'.
 
That is the type of composition that a P&S is optimized for.

You can see some distortion when you roll over the picture, but if you didn't have the two to compare, you'd probably never notice.

In any other setting, the P&S probably wouldn't do as well. But for that setting, at that size, there isn't that much difference.
 
Lets not forget the film image is digital too everything gets scanned these days. Truth is film is all but dead, costs for film will go up and up, 1 4x5 shot@ 2 polariod 2shts trans film and processing= $12ish and now no polaroid and that cost will double soon enough! Glad I'm not trying to keep an e6 line stable these days. It's the old video vs film argument, well digital is here to stay accept it for what it is. Yes I know that 4x5 and 8x10 film is still commercially viable...but when I learned 4x5 film it was affordable and that $150 camera looks cheap until you factor in film costs and scanning at $5000 per year.
 
Lets not forget the film image is digital too everything gets scanned

these days. and that $150 camera looks cheap until you factor in film costs and scanning at $5000 per year.
Just to point out we are debating this: article:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/150-vs-5000-dollar-camera.htm

The two cameras are both digital, one being a Canon powershot A530 (the $150) and the other a canon 5D ($5K)
So there are no film costs associated with a Canon powershot or a 5D
But yes they are different animals ;-)
Mark
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http://www.photo-utopia.blogspot.com/
 
Lets not forget the film image is digital too everything gets scanned

these days. and that $150 camera looks cheap until you factor in film costs and scanning at $5000 per year.
Just to point out we are debating this: article:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/150-vs-5000-dollar-camera.htm

The two cameras are both digital, one being a Canon powershot A530
(the $150) and the other a canon 5D ($5K)
So there are no film costs associated with a Canon powershot or a 5D
But yes they are different animals ;-)
Really different. I spent some time yesterday afternoon finishing up photography for a magazine article: I used a Pentax K10D with a Sigma 10-20mm zoom for most of the shots. With that lens and that camera, I got the full width, plus some of the doors, of a 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner dashboard, shooting from the rear seat (two door hardtop) between the seats (lens just poking over the seat backs in the center), lipping the edge of the front seat and down to the floor, with the top showing most of the sun visors. When a P&S will do that, I'll be interested.

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Charlie Self
http://www.charlieselfonline.com

 
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Retired commercial photog - enjoying shooting for myself again.
Hoping to see/shoot as much as I can before the eyes and legs gives way
 
The parallel with the cars is misleading.

Sure, a Porsche is better than a Honda if you want to get round a racecourse as fast as possible. A Porsche is made to win races.

In comparison, it's not that clear that an expensive camera is made to take good photographs. That's because it is a lot harder to measure what a good photograph is. Taking a photograph is not like winning a race.

There's only one way to measure who wins a car race - it's whoever crosses the line first.

But there are many, many ways in which a photograph can be good. And only a few of those are related to the advantages you get from an expensive camera. Many others are "purely aesthetic", in that they are practically uncoupled with the camera. And some may even by improved by having a worse camera (see the work of people using Holgas, etc).

To the extent that taking a picture is like winning a car race, a more expensive camera is better - but that's a big qualification.

This distinction tends to be lost for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that we all want to be good. So focussing on a definition of good that is easy to measure - that our photographs have low distortion, or excellent resolution - is reassuring. And choosing a measure of "goodness" that we can improve just by spending money lets us buy self confidence.

That's human nature - I understand it as well as anyone. We are all human.

But that doesn't mean we should forget the other ways that make photography great, and which are only weakly connected to how much money we spend. Especially on a site like this which, by its very nature, attracts people inclined to emphasise the "fast car" aspect of photography at the expense of what you might call "art".
 

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