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For no reason I can think of I occasionally record the number of posts in the various groups. I just compared the stats from beginning of December to now, and it's a bit curious.

Overall "Brand" posts:
Ranking remains the same but movement since December is curious:
1. Nikon (5 groups) -15% -606 posts (now 3510 posts)
2. Canon (5 groups) -24% -803 posts (now 2605 posts)
3. Olympus (2 groups) -4% -84 posts (now 1927 posts)
4. Pentax (2 groups) +26% +287 posts (now 1401 posts)
5. Sony (2 groups) +34% +296 posts (now 1160 posts)
(Note: Sony would be 4th place if Konica Minolta are included in the brand)

For single forums, December showed the most active as:
1. Nikon D300/D200/D100
2. Olympus SLR Talk
Now, these two forums remain the most active but the positions are reversed:
1. Olympus SLR Talk +2% (now 1687 posts)
2. Nikon D300/D200/D100 -26% (now 1308 posts)

Also I still find it curious that the Canon 400D (still reported by dpreview as the most popular camera) gets only 270 posts relative to the above (i.e. over the same period), i.e. 16% of the posts in the Olympus SLR forum.

If, popularity of brands can in any way be gauged by the forum posts (and that's an admittedly big if), Olympus appears the most stable, but there fairly significant decrease for both Canon and Nikon and a fairly significant increase for both Pentax and Sony.

Also curious is the expensive groups are plummeting in posts! e.g.
Canon EOS-1D/1Ds/5D -30%
Nikon D3/D2/D1 -54%

Curious?
 
John_McG said:
If, popularity of brands can in any way be gauged by the forum posts
(and that's an admittedly big if
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It's not only a big "if" but probably near impossible as most of the world doesn't speak English.
 
That wasn't really the argument I was expecting, but could be valid. According to wikipedia:

Approximately 375 million people speak English as their first language, as of 2006.[15] English today is probably the third largest language by number of native speakers, after Mandarin Chinese and Spanish.[4][5]

However, when combining native and non-native speakers it is probably the most commonly spoken language in the world, though possibly second to a combination of the Chinese Languages, depending on whether or not distinctions in the latter are classified as "languages" or "dialects."[6][16] Estimates that include second language speakers vary greatly from 470 million to over a billion depending on how literacy or mastery is defined.[17][18] There are some who claim that non-native speakers now outnumber native speakers by a ratio of 3 to 1.[19]

And.
the world's population is believed to have reached over 6.65 billion.

Which would put English as first or second language at around 20% of the world population, but I suspect the ratio could be higher if extended to third and fourth languages.
 
Interesting SONY has the biggest increase +34%. But damn , you should be out taking pictures! not counting forum posts ;) hehe
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A700 owner
 
John_McG said:
If, popularity of brands can in any way be gauged by the forum posts
(and that's an admittedly big if), Olympus appears the most stable,
but there fairly significant decrease for both Canon and Nikon and a
fairly significant increase for both Pentax and Sony.
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Pentax, Sony and Olympus only have 1 forum for their dslrs and lenses. Both Nikon and Canon have 4 forums for that. So if you want to compare the number of posts you will need to combine all 4 forums for the big two. Any other comparison simply doesn't do justice.

The non-dslr forums (all of them, no exceptions) are more or less dead by now. No need to count anything there as far as I'm concerned. Not surprising either since the exiting times of 1997-2002 regarding DC's have long gone.
John_McG said:
Also curious is the expensive groups are plummeting in posts! e.g.
Canon EOS-1D/1Ds/5D -30%
Nikon D3/D2/D1 -54%
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Hard to tell what this means.

I look at various forums from time to time and quite a few have turned really ugly over time. Lot's of whining, trolling etc. The pro-camera forums of Nikon and Canon have been the domain of eager amateurs and (semi)pro shooters and I feel most of them are slowly turning away from the DPReview fora...because of all the ugly things going on there.

I'm now visiting again, but not nearly as much as I did in the late 1900s and early 2000's...
 
It's grey, wet and cold - and whatever the camera I just don't fancy much at this time of year!
 
There was a harddisk crash a while back too. I wonder if all the forums were restored correctly.
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'The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ' George Bernard Shaw
 
The stats I posted were comparing a few days in beginning December, and the last few days. I.E. two check periods (each with two data sets), compared against each other, and adjusted based on total posts in all forums in the periods. So, the crash should not affect the statistics. I did not compare total now with total then. Though I suppose I could do.
 
Statistics darn statistics….

OK, if we ignore the non SLR groups

Overall "Brand" posts:
Ranking remains the same but movement since December is curious:
1. Nikon (4 groups) -15%
2. Canon (4 groups) -24%
3. Olympus (1 groups) +2%
4. Pentax (1 groups) +26%
5. Sony (1 groups) +50%
(Note: Sony would be 4th place if Konica Minolta are included in the brand)

I.e. almost identical results, except Sony which has a bigger increase in SLR only posts (and the Konica Minolta SLR posts went up by almost 400%, but smaller numbers).
 
John_McG said:
Also I still find it curious that the Canon 400D (still reported by
dpreview as the most popular camera) gets only 270 posts relative to
the above (i.e. over the same period), i.e. 16% of the posts in the
Olympus SLR forum.
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Seems that's decided by the number of clicks on the front page.

But yes, interesting stats.
 
When you list the reviews by rating I get the following list. I wonder how complete this review list?
106 HR Items
125 R Items
43 AA Items
12 Average Items
6 Below Average

If the list is accurate....

The ratings are definitely skewed towards the high-end. Nothing "average" about the 12 average items listed out of the 300 rated items. Only 6 below average. The last "average" and "below average" ratings were back in 2003 and 2002 respectively. That's amazing. I find the Not-Rated portion at the bottom of the list interesting too. Will they eventually get reviewed or is it because the review wouldn't be favorable, so better off not to rate the camera, or ...?
Maybe DPR did away with the AA, A ratings. Is there a NR rating?

Highly Recommended
Olympus E-3 (2/20/2008)
Canon PowerShot SD850 IS (2/16/2008)
Canon PowerShot A720 IS (1/9/2008)
Sony DSLR-A700 (12/19/2007)
Fujifilm FinePix F50fd (12/5/2007)
Olympus E-510 (11/23/2007)
Recommended
Sony DSC-H3 (1/15/2008)
Olympus SP-560 UZ (12/21/2007)
Canon PowerShot SX100 IS (12/20/2007)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-L10 (12/14/2007)
Fujifilm FinePix S8000fd (11/30/2007)
Nikon Coolpix P5100 (11/12/2007)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ18 (11/5/2007)
Canon PowerShot SD870 IS (10/19/2007)
Ricoh Caplio GX100 (8/7/2007)
Leica M8 (7/31/2007)
Above Average
Nikon Coolpix P50 (2/13/2008)
Sony DSC-W80 (10/11/2007)
Sony DSC-H7 (7/13/2007)
Sony DSC-H9 (5/29/2007)
Casio Exilim EX-V7 (5/6/2007)
Olympus SP-550 UZ (3/26/2007)
Nikon Coolpix S10 (2/17/2007)
Samsung NV7 OPS (1/24/2007)
Ricoh GR Digital (8/21/2006)
Kodak V610 (8/10/2006)
Nikon Coolpix P3 (6/20/2006)
Pentax Optio A10 (5/8/2006)
Kodak Z650 (4/27/2006)
Olympus SP-500 UZ (2/6/2006)
Olympus Stylus 800 (10/19/2005)
Kodak Z740 (8/4/2005)
Sony DSC-S90 (5/18/2005)
Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro (3/16/2005)
Pentax Optio 750Z (12/2/2004)
Kodak DX7590 (11/19/2004)
Nikon Coolpix 4800 (11/10/2004)
DxO Optics Pro 1.1 (9/8/2004)
HP Photosmart 935 (8/5/2003)
Canon PowerShot SD100 (5/2/2003)
Olympus C-50 Zoom (4/26/2003)
Olympus D-40 Zoom (11/20/2001)
Pentax Optio 330 (10/11/2001)
Sony DSC-P5 (8/21/2001)
Nikon Coolpix 775 (8/2/2001)
Olympus C-700 UZ (5/14/2001)
Canon PowerShot S110 (5/10/2001)
Fujifilm FinePix 6800 Zoom (4/3/2001)
Kodak DC4800 (12/7/2000)
Fujifilm FinePix 4900 Zoom (10/17/2000)
CardPort Swift Syncro (9/4/2000)
Canon PowerShot S100 (5/29/2000)
Casio QV-3000EX (4/11/2000)
Canon PowerShot S20 (2/18/2000)
Olympus C-2500 L (12/6/1999)
Canon PowerShot S10 (11/15/1999)
Fujifilm MX-2700 (7/6/1999)
Nikon Coolpix 700 (5/31/1999)
Kodak DC265 (5/21/1999)
Average
Fujifilm FinePix F700 (9/17/2003)
Fujifilm FinePix S5000 Z (9/17/2003)
HP Photosmart 850 (2/6/2003)
Kodak DX4900 (5/16/2002)
Pentax Optio 430 (4/4/2002)
Kyocera Finecam S3 (7/26/2001)
Sony Mavica CD1000 (9/27/2000)
Fujifilm FinePix 40i (8/15/2000)
Epson PhotoPC 3000 Zoom (8/4/2000)
Kodak DC280 (8/13/1999)
Below Average
HP Photosmart 812 (5/10/2002)
Minolta DiMAGE X (1/8/2002)
Fujifilm FinePix 4700 Zoom (3/28/2000)
Kodak DC290 (1/2/2000)
Fujifilm MX-2900 Zoom (10/28/1999)
Minolta DiMAGE EX 1500 Zoom (2/6/1999)
Not rated
Nikon D3 [PREVIEW] (8/23/2007)
Nikon D300 [PREVIEW] (8/23/2007)
Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III [PREVIEW] (8/20/2007)
Samsung Digimax V700 (5/24/2005)
Nikon D2Hs [PREVIEW] (2/16/2005)
Olympus E-100 RS [PREVIEW] (9/30/2000)
Sony Mavica FD-91 (1/3/1999)
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'The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ' George Bernard Shaw
 
johnnyrush said:
When you list the reviews by rating I get the following list. I
wonder how complete this review list?
106 HR Items
125 R Items
43 AA Items
12 Average Items
6 Below Average

If the list is accurate....

The ratings are definitely skewed towards the high-end. Nothing
"average" about the 12 average items listed out of the 300 rated
items. Only 6 below average. The last "average" and "below
average" ratings were back in 2003 and 2002 respectively. That's
amazing. I find the Not-Rated portion at the bottom of the list
interesting too. Will they eventually get reviewed or is it because
the review wouldn't be favorable, so better off not to rate the
camera, or ...?
Maybe DPR did away with the AA, A ratings. Is there a NR rating?

Highly Recommended
Olympus E-3 (2/20/2008)
Canon PowerShot SD850 IS (2/16/2008)
Canon PowerShot A720 IS (1/9/2008)
Sony DSLR-A700 (12/19/2007)
Fujifilm FinePix F50fd (12/5/2007)
Olympus E-510 (11/23/2007)
Recommended
Sony DSC-H3 (1/15/2008)
Olympus SP-560 UZ (12/21/2007)
Canon PowerShot SX100 IS (12/20/2007)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-L10 (12/14/2007)
Fujifilm FinePix S8000fd (11/30/2007)
Nikon Coolpix P5100 (11/12/2007)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ18 (11/5/2007)
Canon PowerShot SD870 IS (10/19/2007)
Ricoh Caplio GX100 (8/7/2007)
Leica M8 (7/31/2007)
Above Average
Nikon Coolpix P50 (2/13/2008)
Sony DSC-W80 (10/11/2007)
Sony DSC-H7 (7/13/2007)
Sony DSC-H9 (5/29/2007)
Casio Exilim EX-V7 (5/6/2007)
Olympus SP-550 UZ (3/26/2007)
Nikon Coolpix S10 (2/17/2007)
Samsung NV7 OPS (1/24/2007)
Ricoh GR Digital (8/21/2006)
Kodak V610 (8/10/2006)
Nikon Coolpix P3 (6/20/2006)
Pentax Optio A10 (5/8/2006)
Kodak Z650 (4/27/2006)
Olympus SP-500 UZ (2/6/2006)
Olympus Stylus 800 (10/19/2005)
Kodak Z740 (8/4/2005)
Sony DSC-S90 (5/18/2005)
Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro (3/16/2005)
Pentax Optio 750Z (12/2/2004)
Kodak DX7590 (11/19/2004)
Nikon Coolpix 4800 (11/10/2004)
DxO Optics Pro 1.1 (9/8/2004)
HP Photosmart 935 (8/5/2003)
Canon PowerShot SD100 (5/2/2003)
Olympus C-50 Zoom (4/26/2003)
Olympus D-40 Zoom (11/20/2001)
Pentax Optio 330 (10/11/2001)
Sony DSC-P5 (8/21/2001)
Nikon Coolpix 775 (8/2/2001)
Olympus C-700 UZ (5/14/2001)
Canon PowerShot S110 (5/10/2001)
Fujifilm FinePix 6800 Zoom (4/3/2001)
Kodak DC4800 (12/7/2000)
Fujifilm FinePix 4900 Zoom (10/17/2000)
CardPort Swift Syncro (9/4/2000)
Canon PowerShot S100 (5/29/2000)
Casio QV-3000EX (4/11/2000)
Canon PowerShot S20 (2/18/2000)
Olympus C-2500 L (12/6/1999)
Canon PowerShot S10 (11/15/1999)
Fujifilm MX-2700 (7/6/1999)
Nikon Coolpix 700 (5/31/1999)
Kodak DC265 (5/21/1999)
Average
Fujifilm FinePix F700 (9/17/2003)
Fujifilm FinePix S5000 Z (9/17/2003)
HP Photosmart 850 (2/6/2003)
Kodak DX4900 (5/16/2002)
Pentax Optio 430 (4/4/2002)
Kyocera Finecam S3 (7/26/2001)
Sony Mavica CD1000 (9/27/2000)
Fujifilm FinePix 40i (8/15/2000)
Epson PhotoPC 3000 Zoom (8/4/2000)
Kodak DC280 (8/13/1999)
Below Average
HP Photosmart 812 (5/10/2002)
Minolta DiMAGE X (1/8/2002)
Fujifilm FinePix 4700 Zoom (3/28/2000)
Kodak DC290 (1/2/2000)
Fujifilm MX-2900 Zoom (10/28/1999)
Minolta DiMAGE EX 1500 Zoom (2/6/1999)
Not rated
Nikon D3 [PREVIEW] (8/23/2007)
Nikon D300 [PREVIEW] (8/23/2007)
Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III [PREVIEW] (8/20/2007)
Samsung Digimax V700 (5/24/2005)
Nikon D2Hs [PREVIEW] (2/16/2005)
Olympus E-100 RS [PREVIEW] (9/30/2000)
Sony Mavica FD-91 (1/3/1999)
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'The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. ' George Bernard Shaw
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Sorry.. Thanks for pointing it out.. :-)
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'The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ' George Bernard Shaw
 
Don't know why it would be "interesting"

Sony has rapidly gone from 1 model to 4 models and a 5th model on the way. There is no reason not to expect them to get as much action as Nikon and Canon soon. Lots of folks buying the Sony's.
 
Well, it wasn't that long ago that the rumors of the demise of Pentax and Olympus were circulating widely ...however, both these brands have now gained some recognition with their current cameras and are gathering some momentum.

Cheers, Mike.

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http://www.mikespentaxianblog.blogspot.com/
 
Surely it's a simple case of posts reducing or levelling out because most points have been already covered, hence the rush to post (usually lots and lots and lots of duplicated) queries for newly released items?

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The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process. -Edward Weston
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TLE said:
The non-dslr forums (all of them, no exceptions) are more or less
dead by now.
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Why did you have to add "no exceptions"? You leave me no choice but
to point out your error. :-)

A simple way to get an idea of the degree of activity is the age of the latest

thread on the first forum page. In that statistics, right now when I checked, Panasonic Talk Forum compared well to a number of DSLR forums:

Panny 6h*
Canon 400D 1day
Canon 40D 9h
Canon 1D 6h
Nikon D3 9h
Fuji SLR 2 days
Sony SLR 6h

7h if removing the DSLR related threads (Panasonic Talk is for both
compacts and DSLRs) and replacing them with non-DSLR posts from page 2.

I haven't checked but it's possible that some other non-DSLR forums also show
a similar degree of activity.

Just my two oere
Erik from Sweden
 
Congrats --- you found the ONE exception...Yes Panasonic forum is up there with some of the slower dslr fora. Again: Nikon and Canon have 4 fora fo their dslrs that should be combined to get the true activity when comparing.

Apart from Panasonic, well, see for yourself:
Other DC: last thread on first page: 1 month ago
Pentax: 1 month
Casio: 2 weeks
Kodak: 4 days
KM: 4 days
Leica: 4 days
Nikon: 4 days
Ricoh: 3 days
Oly: 2 days
Sony: 2 days
Fuji: 2 days
Canon: 22 hours
Ehrik said:
TLE said:
The non-dslr forums (all of them, no exceptions) are more or less
dead by now.
Click to expand...
Why did you have to add "no exceptions"? You leave me no choice but
to point out your error. :-)

A simple way to get an idea of the degree of activity is the age of
the latest
thread on the first forum page. In that statistics, right now when I
checked, Panasonic Talk Forum compared well to a number of DSLR
forums:

Panny 6h*
Canon 400D 1day
Canon 40D 9h
Canon 1D 6h
Nikon D3 9h
Fuji SLR 2 days
Sony SLR 6h

7h if removing the DSLR related threads (Panasonic Talk is for both
compacts and DSLRs) and replacing them with non-DSLR posts from page 2.

I haven't checked but it's possible that some other non-DSLR forums
also show
a similar degree of activity.

Just my two oere
Erik from Sweden
Click to expand...
 
John_McG said:
For no reason I can think of I occasionally record the number of
posts in the various groups. I just compared the stats from beginning
of December to now, and it's a bit curious.

Overall "Brand" posts:
Ranking remains the same but movement since December is curious:
1. Nikon (5 groups) -15% -606 posts (now 3510 posts)
2. Canon (5 groups) -24% -803 posts (now 2605 posts)
3. Olympus (2 groups) -4% -84 posts (now 1927 posts)
4. Pentax (2 groups) +26% +287 posts (now 1401 posts)
5. Sony (2 groups) +34% +296 posts (now 1160 posts)
(Note: Sony would be 4th place if Konica Minolta are included in the
brand)

For single forums, December showed the most active as:
1. Nikon D300/D200/D100
2. Olympus SLR Talk
Now, these two forums remain the most active but the positions are
reversed:
1. Olympus SLR Talk +2% (now 1687 posts)
2. Nikon D300/D200/D100 -26% (now 1308 posts)
Also I still find it curious that the Canon 400D (still reported by
dpreview as the most popular camera) gets only 270 posts relative to
the above (i.e. over the same period), i.e. 16% of the posts in the
Olympus SLR forum.

If, popularity of brands can in any way be gauged by the forum posts
(and that's an admittedly big if), Olympus appears the most stable,
but there fairly significant decrease for both Canon and Nikon and a
fairly significant increase for both Pentax and Sony.

Also curious is the expensive groups are plummeting in posts! e.g.
Canon EOS-1D/1Ds/5D -30%
Nikon D3/D2/D1 -54%

Curious?
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Interesting statistics but I was wondering whether you took the server crash which deleted a lot of threads, all of which have not yet been restored.
 
I took two readings at the beginning of December, and found the activity between them. Then did the same a few days ago (two readings).

Then adjusted each set based on total posts in all forums (approx 1.5 days each), to make them comparable.

So I don't see how the crash would affect the results. I would also guess that they have recovered what they could (they lost a few days I think).
 
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