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--or is this forum.......dead?

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
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--Posts are sitting here for days with no replies. You must admit that there is very little participation anymore. It seems that all the enthusiasm is in the DSLR forums.

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
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Gaber said:
--Posts are sitting here for days with no replies. You must admit
that there is very little participation anymore. It seems that all
the enthusiasm is in the DSLR forums.
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Of course I agree with you. And it's been six weeks since I made a post myself.

I wonder about the DSLR craze. I would have thought that most people would avoid the weight, the bulk and the never-ending expenses, but it looks like these factors are not deterrents any more.

Anyway - now that PMA has come and gone, I may buy a P50 or P5100. Maybe I will also try out Ricoh and Panasonic cameras if I can afford to. Whatever happens, there will always be people here who want to discuss how such cameras perform, so we shall hardly "die" in the foreseeable future.
--
Tore
http://home.no/tl18/
 
I look at this forum every day, hoping to see some news of a new compact camera that has a big enough sensor to approach DSLR noise levels (even a couple of generations ago) focuses fast and where it is supposed to, has raw and manual settings, and a 28mm wide end. Until then, it just seems that every camera falls short and isn't any better than an olympus 8080 of several years ago. All of the compact cameras now seem to be made by panocanosonyniko. Every one is almost the same.

But, I check every day in hopes that something will bust loose.
 
behind the "Other Digicams," "Casio," and "Pentax" forums - which is a shame. Of course, when the other brands keep coming up with ingenious digicam designs, what do you expect - as former members here just give up and go over there. And to think that Nikon was at one time just a few short years ago, one of the major digicam players. Now it's embarrassing to see what they are releasing. Of course, another player (or should I say, former digicam player) - Olympus - is in the same boat. They keep regurgitating these Stylus releases. And Pentax...well forget about them as they were never in it.

So that leaves Canon, Panasonic, and Fuji - who still appear to be placing some focus in advanced digicam designs. And perhaps with this new Casio speed demon that was announced, that company may be on to something also.

Doesn't bode well for Nikon. I hope that Thom Hogan was right when he prognosticated that perhaps Nikon will release an APS-sized sensor Coolpix digicam in the near future. If that happened, it would certainly spark some life into this forum.
--
As always - good shooting....

Ben

 
This forum currently carries 5 days of posts, compared with 19 hours in the equivalent Canon forum. The Canon forum is full of ...excitement... where there is none here. When I post here (to answer a question, say) I commonly get no response. Hmmmm.

I think that Nikon is coming out with new products, that are good enough to sustain its customer base, but there is no evidence of 'innovation'. They are good cameras, but nothing to get excited about.

Their SLR business is different. There they have the opportunity to sell expensive accessories. Folks who buy SLRs 'expect' to buy expensive accessories.

The question is: Do those people really take a lot of pictures or are they collecting gear? There is a huge 'toy component' in developing an SLR system.

I think Nikon really understands its market and is playing to it.

When I bought my (first) Nikon CP950 and my current CP4500, I paid $1200 for each of them ...?! With that first cost it was not unreasonable to sell accessories in the $200 to $500 price range. For a really decent poin-and-shoot camera, competitively priced at (say) $250, accessories would sell for $100 max. Of that, the vendor takes $40.
--
Jerry
CP4500 Canon iP6700D
 
Tore Lund said:
Gaber said:
--Posts are sitting here for days with no replies. You must admit
that there is very little participation anymore. It seems that all
the enthusiasm is in the DSLR forums.
Click to expand...
Of course I agree with you. And it's been six weeks since I made a
post myself.

I wonder about the DSLR craze. I would have thought that most people
would avoid the weight, the bulk and the never-ending expenses, but
it looks like these factors are not deterrents any more.

Anyway - now that PMA has come and gone, I may buy a P50 or P5100.
Maybe I will also try out Ricoh and Panasonic cameras if I can afford
to. Whatever happens, there will always be people here who want to
discuss how such cameras perform, so we shall hardly "die" in the
foreseeable future.
--
Tore
http://home.no/tl18/
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--I really like the P5000 Tore, but wish it had some more of the 4500 in it. The size is perfect and I love the hot shoe with the SB400 for super indoor pictures. Can't complain about IQ or low light...results are fine for me. The only things I really miss are the swivel and the great macro mode. Can't get the same macro's with the P5000.

Anyway, what I mean is, NTF isn't dead, just real slow.

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
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jimb2 said:
I look at this forum every day, hoping to see some news of a new
compact camera that has a big enough sensor to approach DSLR noise
levels (even a couple of generations ago) focuses fast and where it
is supposed to, has raw and manual settings, and a 28mm wide end.
Until then, it just seems that every camera falls short and isn't any
better than an olympus 8080 of several years ago. All of the compact
cameras now seem to be made by panocanosonyniko. Every one is almost
the same.

But, I check every day in hopes that something will bust loose.
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--I think that Nikon and the others were concentrating on P&S in the early days to bring up the Quality of digital photography so that it would be acceptable to the masses...and they came up with some great cameras. Once they showed that digital photography was profitable they abandoned, essentially, P&S development and made affordable DSLR's so that they could sell us more lenses.

My 2MP CP950 is a whole lot better than most current cameras (except for the obvious advances made, and they stopped at the CP8800, which was one great little cam.

Thanks for your thoughts jimb2.

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
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Ben Herrmann said:
behind the "Other Digicams," "Casio," and "Pentax" forums - which is
a shame. Of course, when the other brands keep coming up with
ingenious digicam designs, what do you expect - as former members
here just give up and go over there. And to think that Nikon was at
one time just a few short years ago, one of the major digicam
players. Now it's embarrassing to see what they are releasing. Of
course, another player (or should I say, former digicam player) -
Olympus - is in the same boat. They keep regurgitating these Stylus
releases. And Pentax...well forget about them as they were never in
it.

So that leaves Canon, Panasonic, and Fuji - who still appear to be
placing some focus in advanced digicam designs. And perhaps with
this new Casio speed demon that was announced, that company may be on
to something also.

Doesn't bode well for Nikon. I hope that Thom Hogan was right when
he prognosticated that perhaps Nikon will release an APS-sized sensor
Coolpix digicam in the near future. If that happened, it would
certainly spark some life into this forum.
--
As always - good shooting....

Ben
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--I think you describe the problem perfectly Ben. Only time will tell.

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
CATS member> ^..^
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Jerry Kalpin said:
This forum currently carries 5 days of posts, compared with 19 hours
in the equivalent Canon forum. The Canon forum is full of
...excitement... where there is none here. When I post here (to
answer a question, say) I commonly get no response. Hmmmm.
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OK.OK. Jerry. What do you want to know? LOL
Jerry Kalpin said:
I think that Nikon is coming out with new products, that are good
enough to sustain its customer base, but there is no evidence of
'innovation'. They are good cameras, but nothing to get excited
about.

Their SLR business is different. There they have the opportunity to
sell expensive accessories. Folks who buy SLRs 'expect' to buy
expensive accessories.
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I can tell you that that is true. I spent plenty before I knew what happened because, like you, I was used to all the accessories for the 950/4500 and figured that, since I would get them eventually, why not just get them now.
Jerry Kalpin said:
The question is: Do those people really take a lot of pictures or
are they collecting gear? There is a huge 'toy component' in
developing an SLR system.
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No kidding! I have six lenses and surely won't bring them all with me. I'd need a suitcase. That's the beauty of a CP8800. One nice little package. Naturally, for some things they're equal and for others the DSLR is superior.
Jerry Kalpin said:
I think Nikon really understands its market and is playing to it.

When I bought my (first) Nikon CP950 and my current CP4500, I paid
$1200 for each of them ...?! With that first cost it was not
unreasonable to sell accessories in the $200 to $500 price range.
For a really decent poin-and-shoot camera, competitively priced at
(say) $250, accessories would sell for $100 max. Of that, the vendor
takes $40.
Click to expand...
..
--Take care Jerry. Hope things pick up here.

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
CATS member> ^..^
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Gaber said:
--or is this forum.......dead?
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Hi Gabe,

Like you, I love the P5000.

Traffic here spiked after the P5000 was introduced, died down, spiked again when the P5100 came out, then died down again. Perhaps the forum will become lively once more when and IF a proper successor to the P5100 is unveiled, perhaps by late summer.

I doubt that we'll ever see a more substantial Coolpix than a P5100-type camera. Alas, the best days of the Coolpix line are behind us, with the P5100 currently being the only worthwhile model for serious or semi-serious users.

Yes, most of Nikon's strong efforts are in the much more lucrative DSLR arena.

However, note that Coolpix sales are way up worldwide, despite the line's overall mediocrity. See my new post on Nikon's scorching camera sales.

Cheers,
Noy

http://www.pbase.com/noyphoto
 
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NoyPhoto said:
Like you, I love the P5000.

Traffic here spiked after the P5000 was introduced, died down, spiked
again when the P5100 came out, then died down again. Perhaps the
forum will become lively once more when and IF a proper successor to
the P5100 is unveiled, perhaps by late summer.
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You'd think that Nikon would want to put out a killer coolpix after all this time.
NoyPhoto said:
I doubt that we'll ever see a more substantial Coolpix than a
P5100-type camera. Alas, the best days of the Coolpix line are behind
us, with the P5100 currently being the only worthwhile model for
serious or semi-serious users.

Yes, most of Nikon's strong efforts are in the much more lucrative
DSLR arena.
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The fact is that at the beginning the DSLR's were financially out of reach, so they put out these great coolpixes. The creative crowd really ate them up and the forum was jumping. When the prices of the DSLR's went down, so did the interest in the coolpixes. You can't be more creative than with a DSLR. That's how it was with me, and possibly you, but we still have a need for a good small camera. I don't think the masses care all that much about apertures and so on... they want the camera to do it all by itself.
NoyPhoto said:
However, note that Coolpix sales are way up worldwide, despite the
line's overall mediocrity. See my new post on Nikon's scorching
camera sales.
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That's a good sign.
NoyPhoto said:
Cheers,
Noy
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Take care Noy.
--

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
CATS member> ^..^
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PAS Charter member #5
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Gaber said:
--or is this forum.......dead?

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR,
18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
CATS member> ^..^
WSSA member#40 ( Head Squirrel)
PAS Charter member #5
MAA member
http://www.pbase.com/thegaber

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I really like my P5000, I have never had so much fun and creative control with a P&S. I havent posted for a long time, but its because of a) the darkest, gloomiest winter (no snow, no sun) I can remember b) I got a D300 in december and the few times the light is good I grab it since I want to try it out.

As for Nikons P&S line - there were some rumors about a new high end compact. A Nikon rep was asked about it on a swedish web broadcast from PMA, and he said they know they needed to provide it . So who knows?

--
Small first D300 gallery:
http://www.pbase.com/interactive/d300_first
Small D200 gallery:
http://www.pbase.com/interactive/d200_12
Small D40 gallery:
http://www.pbase.com/interactive/d40_12
Small Nikon P5000 gallery:
http://www.pbase.com/interactive/nikonp5000_12
http://www.pbase.com/interactive
 
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Johndig said:
Gaber,

Close to it... I should be more involved in this. I will be back with
some soon... I hope. I've been very busy... but that is a poor excuse.
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--Hi John. We're all at fault. Our lives are plenty busy. Usually in the Spring things pick up. Regards to you and your lovely family.

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
CATS member> ^..^
WSSA member#40 ( Head Squirrel)
PAS Charter member #5
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PerL said:
I really like my P5000, I have never had so much fun and creative
control with a P&S. I havent posted for a long time, but its because
of a) the darkest, gloomiest winter (no snow, no sun) I can remember
b) I got a D300 in december and the few times the light is good I
grab it since I want to try it out.
As for Nikons P&S line - there were some rumors about a new high end
compact. A Nikon rep was asked about it on a swedish web broadcast
from PMA, and he said they know they needed to provide it . So who
knows?
Click to expand...
.

--That's exactly why it's slow. Most of us here are just like you! We have other cameras and grab them first and, of course, winter is a horrible time for photography. My winter collection is very scant.

Congratulations on getting the D300. How do you like it? I visited your gallery and could see how smooth the pictures come out. I especially liked the apple, piano and your cute little puppy pictures. You've got a good eye for composition, so enjoy the 300.

Coolpix 950, 4500, P5000, D50, Canon 250D, 500D, 50mm/1.8, 105VR, 18-200VR, 70-300VR, Sigma 10-20.
CATS member> ^..^
WSSA member#40 ( Head Squirrel)
PAS Charter member #5
MAA member
http://www.pbase.com/thegaber

 
I know I've not posted anything since Dec when I posted pics of the snow that fell here in Seattle at the time. Have taken some pics, but not a huge amount, it's either been raining, me busy or sick. :-(

BTW, have managed to comment here and there and that's been it but I agree, it's a tad slow here at the moment and I'd venture that it being winter is the bulk of why.

I do love my P5K and am learning how to use more and more and now am switching between M/S/A and on occasion, P modes and seeing how the camera meters etc.

2 weekends ago I took some pics of a block along Broadway here in my neighborhood that will be demolished, taking with it two empty stores, a Taco Bell, an apartment building and a house come duplex and in that same walk, I shot an old former Chinese retaurant for lease that's seen better days and 3 houses slated to be torn down for another development, all within a few blocks of each other. I've been meaning to post them here but have not yet.

I really do hope to rectify this soon. :-)
 
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