Sandisk III&iV

Yes, there is a significant difference in speed between SanDisk III and IV when using them with the D3.
 
Yes, but only if you are blasting away at 9fps or more will you run into problems. There are those who say the Sandisk Ducati is necessary, but the IV is almost as fast and a better bang for the buck.
 
The Extreme III is not a UDMA card while the Extreme IV is a UDMA card.

The D3 and D300 can read/write to UDMA cards, which are significantly faster than than PIO Mode 6 cards (which includes the Extreme III).

Depending upon your shooting, you might not see the difference if you don't hit the buffer limits of the D3. If you do a lot of frames per second shooting, the Extreme IV can make a difference.

With a UDMA-enabled card reader (which are still fairly rare), you can get incredibly fast download to computer times. I think PIO mode 6 tops out at around 15 to 17 megabytes/second while UDMA is more like 25 megabytes per second.

Anthony
is there a real difference in speed of Sandisk CF III and iV, using
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The main difference is only if your shooting style calls for 9fps or 11fps. The D3 buffer limits are 16 frames for RAW 14-bit and 20 frames for 12-bit lossless-compressed. For JPEG fine Large, its 52 frames. The D3 has to empty the buffer to the CF card to make way for any new frames. Even at the highest attainable write speeds, compared to 9 or 11 fps, the buffer takes time to empty and the frame rate drops dramatically be it Ultra, Extreme, or Ducati. I'd like to see someone measure the frame rate AFTER the buffer fills up. Thats the relevant number to compare IMHO.

Bo
is there a real difference in speed of Sandisk CF III and iV, using
D3? the prices are different.
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You should also take into account theat the IV can be read much faster by a Firewire 800 CF Card reader.
That is important to me from time to time.
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is there a real difference in speed of Sandisk CF III and iV, using
D3? the prices are different.
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The D3 is capable of utilizing the UDMA feature, which means it can write to the IV cards at about 40Mb/sec, versus about 20Mb/sec for the III cards.

Whether or not that speed is an advantage for you, will depend on what format you are recording to the card. At one extreme, we have a user recording large RAW files, either without JPEG, or with JPEG but with many of the image processing options turned off. In this case, the camera's processing time for each image is short, and the CF card write speed is the limiting factor; here, the IV cards will allow a sustained average frame rate twice as high as the III cards.

This was an important consideration for me last week, as I was shooting for Stars On Ice and wanted to record RAW files (normally I use JPEG), and I average anywhere from 50 to 120 frames per minute. With the smallest RAW files (12-bit compressed, about 10-11Mbytes each), that means a sustained write rate of at least 20Mbytes/sec was needed. Using Extreme III cards would have been very marginal, so I invested in new Extreme IV cards for the shoot.

However, if you are recording JPEG only, and have many processing options (e.g. high-ISO NR at high ISO, active D-lighting, image authentication, etc.) enabled, the camera's processing for each image will take much more time than the writing of the JPEG file to the CF card. In this case, you will not see much advantage to the Extreme IV cards vs. the III.
 
SanDisk is offering significant rebates (well, actually a visa card) on SanDisk Extreme memory cards. There's a few "catches":

1) only a limited number of stores. So you can't go to Best Buy and just get them.

2) You have a choice of getting a Visa Prepaid card or in some cases, a voucher for store you bought the cards from. No cash or check rebate.

Rebate information and the list of stores is located here:
http://66.223.110.241/rebates/SanDiskQ1VisaPromo033008.pdf

Anthony
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it was $367 from buydig and there is over $100 in rebates coming.

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I don't know what the I/F limit is, but the Extreme IVs transfer at 40Mb/s and Ducatis at 45. I can verify the claimed IV performance, as can several test sites.

It does depend on the card reader, to some extent. The SanDisk Extreme Firewire will run flat out on a FW800 connection and only fractionally slower with FW400.

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is there a real difference in speed of Sandisk CF III and iV, using
D3? the prices are different.
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The D3 is capable of utilizing the UDMA feature, which means it can
write to the IV cards at about 40Mb/sec, versus about 20Mb/sec for
the III cards.
In tests, the III seems to max out at about 13Mb/s against the claimed 20, while the IV gets 39 vs a claimed 40. So, in reality, copying from the card is three times the speed. In camera performance differences aren't quite so marked - more like 2x.

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If you do a lot of burst shooting then yes.

IMHO the IV's are worth the extra cost, and the ducatis, while faster are not worth a lot of extra money for the relatively small speed improvement over the IV.
 
I just received a couple of IV's from Norman Camera. They seem to work well in my D3. I just sent in the rebate stuff, so we'll see how that works out.

One nice touch...the Sandisk Extreme IV cards come with a nice little neoprene zip-up pouch large enough to hold at least 2 CF cards. Now I have an extra, and they're just the right size to hold my Shure earphones for my iPod.

HMc
2x4GB iv
1x8GB iv
it was $367 from buydig and there is over $100 in rebates coming.

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