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I read Phil's reviews of both of these, but I wonder...for an amateur photographer(such as myself), is it worth the extra money to get a G2? Am I really going to see any improvement by getting the upgrade? I'm interested in getting opinions from those of you who have used both as I don't want to spend the extra money if I don't get a noticeable bump in camera features (and the 4MP isn't really a benefit for me. I'm not planning on printing larger than 8'x10' anyway.).

Thanks for the help everyone!
 
get the g2.. the g1 has skin-tone problems with flash.

T
rdhobbs said:
I read Phil's reviews of both of these, but I wonder...for an
amateur photographer(such as myself), is it worth the extra money
to get a G2? Am I really going to see any improvement by getting
the upgrade? I'm interested in getting opinions from those of you
who have used both as I don't want to spend the extra money if I
don't get a noticeable bump in camera features (and the 4MP isn't
really a benefit for me. I'm not planning on printing larger than
8'x10' anyway.).

Thanks for the help everyone!
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rdhobbs said:
I read Phil's reviews of both of these, but I wonder...for an
amateur photographer(such as myself), is it worth the extra money
to get a G2? Am I really going to see any improvement by getting
the upgrade? I'm interested in getting opinions from those of you
who have used both as I don't want to spend the extra money if I
don't get a noticeable bump in camera features (and the 4MP isn't
really a benefit for me. I'm not planning on printing larger than
8'x10' anyway.).

Thanks for the help everyone!
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it's not being able to print that big, it's being able to crop something out of it and still having a crisp photo when you print that big. either camera there isn't anything wrong with it. the g2 has a few new features, that the g1 doesn't have. it has a larger ccd, and better power management.

so you just have to decide.

---Mike Savad

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http://www.pbase.com/savad/
 
Hi

I still have my G1 (bought the 1st one available here in the Netherlands, I think) and I'll hold on to it for a while. I've held and used the G2, and it certainly has some improvements, but in my opinion the I'd have to pay too much money (after selling my G1) to justify the extras.

I still love the picture quality of the G1, and the one area I would spend a lot of money in is speed. Especially AF/AE speed, but also start-up and burst-speed. All prosumer digicams are severely lacking in that area.

I'm saving my money for a DSLR (either the Canon D60 or the Nikon D100), I've tried the D30 and the focus is sooooo fast when compared to the the G1/G2 (or any prosumer digicam for that matter).

Mind you, this is just my opinion. In the fast-paced digicam world there is always the choice between upgrading now or waiting for a new and improved model. You have to be very careful to make the right choice, especially when waiting, because the next model is always 6 months away and before you know it you've been waiting 2 years.

I think you should put your demands and wishes on paper, check if the new camera meet these demands and wishes and then make the decision. I did, and the G2 did not fit my wishes, so no G2 for me.

Hope this helps,

Jeroen
the Netherlands

http? autorai2001.dhs.org
Cool pictures of sports cars, taken with a G1.
 
After all technical reviews and comments you should also take in mind that your camera is only a tool. Everything else is in your mind, immagination and experience.
G1 could make great pictures - look at Pekka's galleries:
http://photography-on-the.net/gallery/list.php

Greetings,
Roumen
rdhobbs said:
I read Phil's reviews of both of these, but I wonder...for an
amateur photographer(such as myself), is it worth the extra money
to get a G2? Am I really going to see any improvement by getting
the upgrade? I'm interested in getting opinions from those of you
who have used both as I don't want to spend the extra money if I
don't get a noticeable bump in camera features (and the 4MP isn't
really a benefit for me. I'm not planning on printing larger than
8'x10' anyway.).

Thanks for the help everyone!
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Most of the features in the G-2 (more MP, 3 focus points, program shift) are not such a big deal, but helpful. However, expecially for the more casual photographer, the G-2 will have much better (neutral) color rendition and the metering, with the evaluative option, will be very helpful in getting well exposed shots. I think you will find these performance issues important.
Mike K
 
Bradley Grant93796 said:
G2 now, in a few months it is likely you'll see cameras
incorparating the new X3 photosensor technology which is
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Are you sure? I doubt that. I think that the Foveon chip first has to prove itself in the Sigma DSLR before the 'big' brands (Nikon, Canon, Oylmpus, etc.) will take the jump and incorporate an X3 chip or a clone.

Not only does the Foveon chip has to prove itself to the buyers, more important for me, first guys like Phil Askey and Rob Galbraith have to give their opinion about the system before I even will consider buying such a camera.

It could be that there are things going on of which I am not aware, but that's the way I think it's going to be.

Jeroen
the Netherlands

http://autorai2001.dhs.org
Cool pictures of sports cars, taken with a G1.
 
If there is nothing about the G1 that crys out for an upgrade then I would keep the G1. G2 does have a few advantages but may not be worth it depending on what you plan to do. I have the G1 and like the 8x10's I get on a regular basis. My sister-in-law just framed 3 of my shots because they were the most REAL photos she had seen in years (she hates the picture-postcard look as do I). Once you know HOW to use the G1 properly it is very hard to beat.
rdhobbs said:
I read Phil's reviews of both of these, but I wonder...for an
amateur photographer(such as myself), is it worth the extra money
to get a G2? Am I really going to see any improvement by getting
the upgrade? I'm interested in getting opinions from those of you
who have used both as I don't want to spend the extra money if I
don't get a noticeable bump in camera features (and the 4MP isn't
really a benefit for me. I'm not planning on printing larger than
8'x10' anyway.).

Thanks for the help everyone!
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I agree Jeroen.

Morris
Jeroen H said:
Hi

I still have my G1 (bought the 1st one available here in the
Netherlands, I think) and I'll hold on to it for a while. I've held
and used the G2, and it certainly has some improvements, but in my
opinion the I'd have to pay too much money (after selling my G1) to
justify the extras.
I still love the picture quality of the G1, and the one area I
would spend a lot of money in is speed. Especially AF/AE speed, but
also start-up and burst-speed. All prosumer digicams are severely
lacking in that area.

I'm saving my money for a DSLR (either the Canon D60 or the Nikon
D100), I've tried the D30 and the focus is sooooo fast when
compared to the the G1/G2 (or any prosumer digicam for that matter).

Mind you, this is just my opinion. In the fast-paced digicam world
there is always the choice between upgrading now or waiting for a
new and improved model. You have to be very careful to make the
right choice, especially when waiting, because the next model is
always 6 months away and before you know it you've been waiting 2
years.
I think you should put your demands and wishes on paper, check if
the new camera meet these demands and wishes and then make the
decision. I did, and the G2 did not fit my wishes, so no G2 for me.

Hope this helps,

Jeroen
the Netherlands

http? autorai2001.dhs.org
Cool pictures of sports cars, taken with a G1.
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Hilbert said:
Hilbert said:
it (G2) has a larger ccd
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The G1 and G2 both have the same size CCD's. This is an important
point. The G2's CCD is more densely packed with pixel sites. The
D30 has a much larger CCD than the G2, but fewer pixels and much
better image quality.
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for larger, i meant more pixels.... sorry about that...

my assumtion is that they used the same lens as the g1, it's cheaper to redesign the ccd.

---Mike Savad

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http://www.pbase.com/savad/
 
Jeroen H said:
Jeroen H29622 said:
G2 now, in a few months it is likely you'll see cameras
incorparating the new X3 photosensor technology which is
Click to expand...
Are you sure? I doubt that. I think that the Foveon chip first has
to prove itself in the Sigma DSLR before the 'big' brands (Nikon,
Canon, Oylmpus, etc.) will take the jump and incorporate an X3 chip
or a clone.
Not only does the Foveon chip has to prove itself to the buyers,
more important for me, first guys like Phil Askey and Rob Galbraith
have to give their opinion about the system before I even will
consider buying such a camera.

It could be that there are things going on of which I am not aware,
but that's the way I think it's going to be.

Jeroen
the Netherlands

http://autorai2001.dhs.org
Cool pictures of sports cars, taken with a G1.
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i have to agree. right now one camera company decided to take the rick (and probably getting huge discounts on that ccd).

it's still a first generation chip, and i'll wait until it's atleast a second or third generation. they need to work the bugs out.

i've seen only about 5 pictures of what it can do. i've seen plenty of d60 - but none of that sigma final version.

and i think it will also take a while before it's main stream enough to go into "cheap" camera's like the g3 etc. (and by cheap i mean non slr's).

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/
 
I traded in my G1 for a G2 and am really happy that I did. Others may find the improvements do not justify the upgrade cost and prefer to save their money till a successor product (the G3?) arrives.
The trigger again was an upcoming vacation and I have some great photos.

The G2 had been in use as an in-store demonstrator at Jessops - so although it was in new condiition I got it for a used camera price which was a good price for the UK - but on the downside the trade-in for a 12 month old G1 was not that great.

See http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read_opinion_text.asp?prodkey=canon_g2&opinion=9201

Interesting observation - I take all my pictures at the highest quality jpg setting. Despite the increased pixel count the jpgs from the G2 are on average hardly any larger than the G1 results.

Adrian Walmsley
 
mike savad said:
i have to agree. right now one camera company decided to take the
rick (and probably getting huge discounts on that ccd).
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Exactly. The first year(s) the chip will be much more expensive than the "traditional" CCD/CMOS chips just because it is new. For the same reason don't count on the chip appearing in affordable prosumer cameras.
mike savad said:
it's still a first generation chip, and i'll wait until it's
atleast a second or third generation. they need to work the bugs
out.
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Yup.
mike savad said:
i've seen only about 5 pictures of what it can do. i've seen plenty
of d60 - but none of that sigma final version.
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Yes, and the D60 pictures look mighty fine. I would also like to see some (a lot) of pictures taken under diffcult lighting circumstances to see how the chip holds up.
mike savad said:
and i think it will also take a while before it's main stream
enough to go into "cheap" camera's like the g3 etc. (and by cheap i
mean non slr's).
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Right now as far as I know there is only one model, the APS size. That size is much larger than the 1/1.8" which is used in the current prosumer cameras. That size will have to be developed adding more to the cost.

We'll see how things work out.

Jeroen
the Netherlands

http://autorai2001.dhs.org
Cool pictures of sports cars, taken with a G1.
 
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