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Dileep Kumar

Dileep Kumar

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Dear All,

These are from my efforts to capture various angles of wings for my personal collection.

Some of them are shot today during the rain. Obviously light was law and therefore noise is evident in those photos.

Please provide your critique & comments.

Best regards,
Dileep

Nikon D80, 70-300 & SB-800:

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4)



5)



6)



7)

 
Very Good.

I liked the third..best.it make me wonder, where were you while shooting that shot!!

Are you in Middle East? As your profile says, you are in Doha.Where was this shooting location?

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trying hard to master this art
 
Thanks buddy for looking and your comments.
NikonNovice said:
Very Good.

I liked the third..best.it make me wonder, where were you while
shooting that shot!!
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They came close the shore and were flying very low. That's why it look like shot from top.
NikonNovice said:
Are you in Middle East? As your profile says, you are in Doha.Where
was this shooting location?
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This was in Corniche, near the fishing harbour. Have you been to Doha?

Best regards,
Dileep
 
Yes.I have been to Qatar earlier, but never visited the corniche. Will do next time.
All the best for your photography.Looking forward to see more....

NN
Dileep Kumar said:
NikonNovice said:
Very Good.

I liked the third..best.it make me wonder, where were you while
shooting that shot!!
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They came close the shore and were flying very low. That's why it
look like shot from top.
Dileep Kumar said:
Are you in Middle East? As your profile says, you are in Doha.Where
was this shooting location?
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This was in Corniche, near the fishing harbour. Have you been to Doha?

Best regards,
Dileep
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trying hard to master this art
 
Many thanks Dez for your comments.
DezM said:
Nice exposures on all. #5 was oversharpened a bit. You can see halos.
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Your views on No. 5 is absolutely correct and I will try to correct it. Also, I'm not that good at PP.
DezM said:
As Morris would say, don't center your bird subject. When flying,
leave room in the direction they are flying.
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I always try to follow the rule of thrids while shooting. But when it comes to shooting the flying birds, especially close range, it's very difficult to follow their sudden turns & movements.

Best regards,
Dileep
DezM said:
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Dez

http://photos.dezmix.com

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Dileep,

You were using fill flash as well ??

I recently bought the 70-300......great for the $$....great even not considering $$

Fred
 
Nice. You guys make me want a longer lens.

Tell me, how do you use flash in these sort of shots? I'm surprised that the flash reaches that far. Do you use the high-speed flash synch, or use 1/200th and rely on the flash freezing the movement? Does the flash spook the bird?

Sorry for so many questions

Tony S
 
Dileep Kumar said:
DezM said:
Nice exposures on all. #5 was oversharpened a bit. You can see halos.
Click to expand...
Your views on No. 5 is absolutely correct and I will try to correct
it. Also, I'm not that good at PP.
Dileep Kumar said:
As Morris would say, don't center your bird subject. When flying,
leave room in the direction they are flying.
Click to expand...
I always try to follow the rule of thrids while shooting. But when it
comes to shooting the flying birds, especially close range, it's very
difficult to follow their sudden turns & movements.

Best regards,
Dileep
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Yes, but what I do is leave some room for the bird and than do you correct "crop" later. You don't need the rule of thirds. Sometimes I center them too, to get them in focus and to get the exposure correct.

Just give it room in the direction they are flying to. Here's an example:



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Dez

http://photos.dezmix.com
 
Great compositions, all ... #3 is a terrific image. World class composition in my opinion.

But ...

There are significant processing artifacts in these ... I see sharpening halos on every image (especially #3 but visible in all) ... I also see heavy use of local contrast enhancement or d-lighting ... maybe both. This appears as wide halos on a few shots starting at 3. I also see quite a bit of grain in a few shots, perhaps because of heavy sharpening (explains the halos too of course.)

I think you used slow-ish shutter speeds and compensated with heavy processing. Suggest you shoot with faster shutter speeds ... although that lense may not allow it. Note ... your images have no EXIF, so it is impossible to tell the settings.

I find maximum size at 800px on a side is a nice compromise between visible detail and size.

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http://letkeman.net/Photos
http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com
 
DeZm,

very good advise & nice sample!!

But in this case, I think dileep went for the title ' wings' and i think that the concept is to show more of the spread wings.So he couldn't make room for the birds flight direction.
DezM said:
Dileep Kumar said:
DezM said:
Nice exposures on all. #5 was oversharpened a bit. You can see halos.
Click to expand...
Your views on No. 5 is absolutely correct and I will try to correct
it. Also, I'm not that good at PP.
DezM said:
As Morris would say, don't center your bird subject. When flying,
leave room in the direction they are flying.
Click to expand...
I always try to follow the rule of thrids while shooting. But when it
comes to shooting the flying birds, especially close range, it's very
difficult to follow their sudden turns & movements.

Best regards,
Dileep
Click to expand...
Yes, but what I do is leave some room for the bird and than do you
correct "crop" later. You don't need the rule of thirds. Sometimes I
center them too, to get them in focus and to get the exposure correct.

Just give it room in the direction they are flying to. Here's an
example:



--
Dez

http://photos.dezmix.com
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--
trying hard to master this art
 
Hi Tony,

Thanks for looking and your comments.
aesmith said:
Nice. You guys make me want a longer lens.

Tell me, how do you use flash in these sort of shots?
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My SB800 + Turn the camera FP mode on for high speed synchronization. This allowes me to go to my preferred shutter speed of 1/1000.

If the lighting is low, I choose spot metering or central weighted for fill flash.
aesmith said:
Do you use the high-speed flash
synch, or use 1/200th and rely on the flash freezing the movement?
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I'm not sure whether a flash can freeze the movement in day light.
aesmith said:
Does the flash spook the bird?
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Flash normally does not frighten the birds.
aesmith said:
Sorry for so many questions

Tony S
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Best regards,
Dileep
 
Dear Kim,

Many many thanks for looking and providing your detailed feedbacks. I really don’t know how much I owe to this forum especially people like you , Morris, Dez, ...., for what I’m now.

Therefore I always value the comments and encouragements I get here and that is the only way forward for me.
Now I’m gonna find a Photoshop school in order to learn Photoshop.

Actually I applied the same sharpening to all photos and now I realize it doesn’t work that way.

Well, this photo was shot while drizzling. I had to reduce the shutter speed to 1/800 which is 1/200 less than my preferred minimum speed. Again, focus speed too was a little bit slow due to the low light. These were my settings for that shot: Manual mode, f/5.6, 1/800, ISO-400, 260mm, Spot Metering & Flash.

Here is the same picture with 40% cropping and 80% sharpening in Photoshop. Please advise the sharpening methods to be followed in future.



With best regards,
Dileep
Kim Letkeman said:
Great compositions, all ... #3 is a terrific image. World class
composition in my opinion.

But ...

There are significant processing artifacts in these ... I see
sharpening halos on every image (especially #3 but visible in all)
... I also see heavy use of local contrast enhancement or d-lighting
... maybe both. This appears as wide halos on a few shots starting at
3. I also see quite a bit of grain in a few shots, perhaps because of
heavy sharpening (explains the halos too of course.)

I think you used slow-ish shutter speeds and compensated with heavy
processing. Suggest you shoot with faster shutter speeds ... although
that lense may not allow it. Note ... your images have no EXIF, so it
is impossible to tell the settings.

I find maximum size at 800px on a side is a nice compromise between
visible detail and size.

--
http://letkeman.net/Photos
http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com
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DezM said:
Dileep Kumar said:
DezM said:
Nice exposures on all. #5 was oversharpened a bit. You can see halos.
Click to expand...
Your views on No. 5 is absolutely correct and I will try to correct
it. Also, I'm not that good at PP.
DezM said:
As Morris would say, don't center your bird subject. When flying,
leave room in the direction they are flying.
Click to expand...
I always try to follow the rule of thrids while shooting. But when it
comes to shooting the flying birds, especially close range, it's very
difficult to follow their sudden turns & movements.

Best regards,
Dileep
Click to expand...
Yes, but what I do is leave some room for the bird and than do you
correct "crop" later. You don't need the rule of thirds. Sometimes I
center them too, to get them in focus and to get the exposure correct.

Just give it room in the direction they are flying to. Here's an
example:
Click to expand...
Once again many thanks Dez for the photo and advice.

What you showed was a good example and I will try to follow your advice.

Still I need to find a way to tackle them while I’m following them in the view finder and all of sudden they come close by & fill the frame as in some of the photos above.

Best,
Dileep
DezM said:
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Dez

http://photos.dezmix.com
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Dileep Kumar said:
Once again many thanks Dez for the photo and advice.

What you showed was a good example and I will try to follow your advice.

Still I need to find a way to tackle them while I’m following them in
the view finder and all of sudden they come close by & fill the frame
as in some of the photos above.

Best,
Dileep
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Not a problem. You did a very good job though. Nice reach on that lens :D
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Dez

http://photos.dezmix.com
 
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