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the exif data says it was taken in Aug 07

F3, ISO 50, 8mm, center, ap, 1/3200 sec
 
The sensor in this is about the same size as the old Sony R1, compare the spec of that with this and it moves things on quite a bit, r1 WAS 10MP agreed but for most of us 6 is more than adequate. It's also a little bit bigger(sensor) than the new Sanyo HD1000, so this should be a winner if the stability is upto to it, which if I'm honest will be the achilles heel, for video it will need to be on a tripod or something for optimum results is my initial thought but I hope I'm wrong!!
 
The 1280 pixel size of those are terrible.......I hope this was a definate beta version........or I just lost interest
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Gene from Western Pa

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FZ10....20 and 30 and FZ18

D50 ....D80 - 18 to 200VR- 50mm 1.8 - 80 to 400 OS



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
You think, why? explain!

Can you post a 35 sequence burst from your Nikon for comparison?

Did you save any of the seq. as bit maps and compare a couple? I'm impressed what dissapoints I'm curious.
 
I guess this is to me , if so, no I can not ,and the high burst rate along with a 6mp 1/1.8 sensor is what had my interest.......but poor quality photos hold no interest for me........as I say hopefully the IQ will get better.
I would be happy with 10 fps and good image quaity......

You are saying you can see leafs on the trees or blades of grass in those photos? I can not. Perhaps if the burst is slowed down things may get better but those are bad.
tameside said:
You think, why? explain!

Can you post a 35 sequence burst from your Nikon for comparison?

Did you save any of the seq. as bit maps and compare a couple? I'm
impressed what dissapoints I'm curious.
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Gene from Western Pa

http://imageevent.com/grc6
http://grc225.zenfolio.com/
FZ10....20 and 30 and FZ18

D50 ....D80 - 18 to 200VR- 50mm 1.8 - 80 to 400 OS



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
tameside said:
The sensor in this is about the same size as the old Sony R1, compare
the spec of that with this and it moves things on quite a bit, r1 WAS
10MP agreed but for most of us 6 is more than adequate. It's also a
little bit bigger(sensor) than the new Sanyo HD1000, so this should
be a winner if the stability is upto to it, which if I'm honest will
be the achilles heel, for video it will need to be on a tripod or
something for optimum results is my initial thought but I hope I'm
wrong!!
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You are totally disconnected from the reality... The Casio EX-F1 has a 1/1.8" sensor - that means 7.28mm x 5.46mm. The Sony R1 has an APS C sensor slightly smaller than 1.8", with the dimensions of 21.5mm x 14.4mm, so it's 7.8 times larger (as area) than the 1/1.8" one.
 
genece said:
You are saying you can see leafs on the trees or blades of grass in
those photos? I can not. Perhaps if the burst is slowed down things
may get better but those are bad.
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Yes, you can see leafs and blades of grass in the 1280 images. The grass in the foreground is not in focus.

I'm kind of suspicious too about the quality of the 6Mp images (Casio insist on the speed part of things, not a word about image quality) and given the fact is the first camera with the new CMOS sensor - if it has such a good image quality maybe it would have been used also for normal speed cameras. When Sony presented the sensor, they said that the 12 bits output is only available at maximum 15 fps. At 60 fps the 10 bits output is used.

But for 1280 images, probably not processed in the best way, these are OK. I see you have some Panasonics, they are not better than this with their NR...
 
Errr Gene mate, I think the camera is focusing solely on the soccer player.

You can see a gradual blur in the grass from the foreground to a sharpened area roughly under where his position is, before it blurs out again. I think they call it depth of field but perhaps Pro photographers have a different term for this expected lens blurring?

Look just under his feet and you should be able to make out quite clearly blades of grass.

I'm guessing for image quality comparisons have a look at the Panasonic 12x zoom range. I'm sure theyre using the same lens. Just expect a LOT less noise (and noise reduction artefacts) with the EX-F1.

Keep in mind also this is a shrunken 1280x1024 shot as opposed to the full sized 2816 x 2112, and with a CMOS sensor this should reveal more detail, not more blur...
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Heading out for band photography and capturing everything in-between.
 
I'm trying VERY hard to find fill-sized sample shots. aren't people allowed to walk CES with an SD card in hand? It's not fair!
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Heading out for band photography and capturing everything in-between.
 
Deanis said:
have a look at the
Panasonic 12x zoom range. I'm sure theyre using the same lens.
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No way they are using the same lens. The Panasonic/Leica 12x lens for 1/1.8" sensor size has mechanical linked zoom ring, different focal lengths and f-numbers (wider at the tele end). Casio have shared in the past lenses with Sony, I expect a new Sony camera with this lens.
 
My guess is that the camera is still in before-preproduction stage, a phase between prototype and preproduction. Many things are not yet clarified, as for example in this specification page, where some things are in the state of "to be advised". http://www.exilim.com/intl/ex_f1/spec.html

Given the high interest for this new type of camera, they are trying to speed up the things.
 
I am not tring to put down this camera, if the IQ is fine I will be first in line to own one, but all my FZ cameras have much better IQ than those photos. But of course only one is even 4fps. DOF on a small sensor should easily cover more area than that........
Deanis said:
Errr Gene mate, I think the camera is focusing solely on the soccer
player.
You can see a gradual blur in the grass from the foreground to a
sharpened area roughly under where his position is, before it blurs
out again. I think they call it depth of field but perhaps Pro
photographers have a different term for this expected lens blurring?
Look just under his feet and you should be able to make out quite
clearly blades of grass.
I'm guessing for image quality comparisons have a look at the
Panasonic 12x zoom range. I'm sure theyre using the same lens. Just
expect a LOT less noise (and noise reduction artefacts) with the
EX-F1.
Keep in mind also this is a shrunken 1280x1024 shot as opposed to the
full sized 2816 x 2112, and with a CMOS sensor this should reveal
more detail, not more blur...
--
Heading out for band photography and capturing everything in-between.
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Gene from Western Pa

http://imageevent.com/grc6
http://grc225.zenfolio.com/
FZ10....20 and 30 and FZ18

D50 ....D80 - 18 to 200VR- 50mm 1.8 - 80 to 400 OS



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
Dunno, maybe this lens/sensor combo allows for a greater (shallower) depth of field?

I'm going to agree that this is another sort of prototype model. They still havent released a full sized sample shot, and arent allowing people to try out the cam with an SD card. I'm sure the results would be better now than those taken almost a year ago,mainly due to in-camera tweaking/processing.

Oh I also own a Panasonic (FZ5). And its fairly terrible in low light., even with that nice glass, so hopefully Casio has worked around this.
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Heading out for band photography and capturing everything in-between.
 
iso rivolta said:
No way they are using the same lens. The Panasonic/Leica 12x lens for
1/1.8" sensor size has mechanical linked zoom ring, different focal
lengths and f-numbers (wider at the tele end). Casio have shared in
the past lenses with Sony, I expect a new Sony camera with this lens.
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The layout of the lens is certainly reminiscent of Sony's old DSC-F717 and its predecessors:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf717/
 
I'm very interested in this cam too, but this pictures don't convince me at all.

Look at the football player, the composition of the picture, seems to me like a 24mm or 28mm lens, not a 35mm as the f1 has.
May be I'm wrong, what do you think?
 
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