Lucy... The EX-25 Examples...

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Here are the examples with the EX-25 and the 14-45 and the 40-150 lenses .. sorry it took me so long to get them done .. but i got carried away with other subjects and takeing pics...lol.. will post them in another thread ... I had to get the cats in on the action also ... :)

My African Violet with the EX-25 and the 40-150 lens from about oh 3 feet away and fully zoomed .. now i know im gonna like this for butterflies come spring .. Im used to the 740's macro and super macro and the way i shoot with that is right up close .. i dont zoom in at all ..

40-150 and the EX-25 .. no cropping at all



The 14-45 and the EX-25 ya have to almost touch the flower and i couldnt get it all in the frame .. no cropping at all ..



and this is Radar's face with the 40-150 and the EX-25 this was all i could fit in the frame ... from about the same distance as the flower... about 3 feet ..



The EX-25 next to eh 40-150 lens..



Overall i really like the combo of the 40-150 with the EX-25 .. I think will be really nice for butterflies with a lil distance as not to scare them so easy .. (im 5'2" so ill just have to bend over a lil bit) lol...

The EX-25 is just an extension tube that sits between the body and the lens.. no lens in it at all just a tube ..

Marion

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Alfred Eisenstaedt said “f/8 and be there.” 'And Shoot'
 
The cat image is sure "in your face," very up close and personal. Note that maximum image magnification occurs at 40mm using the 40-150mm and at 25mm when using the 14-45mm. Seems odd, but its true. While those may be the maximum image magnifications at those focal lengths, the working distances I'm sure are very, very short, which would make the longer focal lengths more usable.

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lol... I think im gonna like this combo of the EX-25 and the 40-150 ... for butterflies it will be really nice ... (I hope) .. it seems ... :)

dont worry im taking care of your EX-25 ... ive only dropped it a couple of times now .. lol.. just kiding ... ive taken real good care of it ..

I sent ya an email when i got it . but didnt hear back from ya ..

Thanks again for letting me chek this out .. I like it .. :)

Marion

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Alfred Eisenstaedt said “f/8 and be there.” 'And Shoot'
 
That really works great! And I love your shot of Radar! Incredible detail!

I can see why it would work great for shooting butterflies! Thanks for showing me what it can do and what it looks like, too! I appreciate your efforts.

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Yep - The Radar's face picture is first class. Oh and thanks for bringing Radar back to OTF - its been a while. Like you said, with this combo, you sould be able to get some pretty good shots of dragonflies, butterflies etc and ofcourse the SLR will focus in an instant as compared with your UZI. So - let the good times roll :-)

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Oh wow .. i tottaly spaced it off that it wasnt the same lens ..lol.. but if it is anything like 14-45 .. then it will be to close ..unless you are doing close ups of coins and stuff ...lol

loved it on the the 40-150 ... I know im gonna like that combo .. :)

Marion

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Alfred Eisenstaedt said “f/8 and be there.” 'And Shoot'
 
Thanks ... I didnt realize i would get that close to his face... and ive always wanted to get a close up of his face like that ..

yup come spring .. im I think im gonna like this combo .. :)

Marion

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Alfred Eisenstaedt said “f/8 and be there.” 'And Shoot'
 
...it's not usable with the 14-54. Oh well.....that's what it says
on the Olympus site.
Hi Lucy,

The 14-54mm and EX-25 are definitely usable together, I tried to find some images I took using that combo of some cacti but couldn't find them in the rush of the morning. I'll look again this evening to give you an idea of the close up it'll give you. If you look closely on the Olympus site it says it's usable at 54mm, but not usable at any other focal length.

"ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm F2.8-3.5 54mm MF 17.7cm - 22.2cm 0.47 - 0.65X"

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/lens/dea/products/lens/ex-25/index.asp

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Thanks timskis6 for pointing that out! So it can be used at full zoom after all! That's great to know! Thanks again!
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Great shots, Marion! The African Violet flower is so fuzzy, and Radar's face is wonderful. You're going to have fun with this!
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...it's not usable with the 14-54. Oh well.....that's what it says
on the Olympus site.
Umm, if memory serves, it is usable at 54mm, just not the wide angle focal lengths, just like it is usable on the 50mm. As I understand it, the problem is the focal point would be inside the lens for wide angle.
 
Marn, these are beutiful. I really like the cat's face.
Good research Tim, thanks.

The chart on the Oly website indicates that all of the lenses focus by manual focus except for the 50 mm f/2 . The 50 mm somehow focuses by auto focus and/or manual focus. Is that right? And the subject range is shown as really limitted. But Marn's pictures seem to be taken at various distances and magnifications. These don't seem to be limitted at all. IS the focus range the range where it achieves true macro of 1:1?

If the 14-54 mm lens works at 54 mm with the extension tube then it would be a really good macro at 108 mm equivalent. But I'm guessing the 50 mm f/2 macro is probably more suited to macro.

Any comments from people like Marn who have used the extension tube, or the 35 mm and 50 mm macro lenses? Thanks.
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Marn, these are beutiful. I really like the cat's face.
Good research Tim, thanks.
The chart on the Oly website indicates that all of the lenses focus
by manual focus except for the 50 mm f/2 . The 50 mm somehow focuses
by auto focus and/or manual focus. Is that right? And the subject
range is shown as really limitted. But Marn's pictures seem to be
taken at various distances and magnifications. These don't seem to be
limitted at all. IS the focus range the range where it achieves true
macro of 1:1?
Olympus is just being conservative. I have used auto focus on the 50-200mm lens the few times I used the EX-25. Note, to use it, you really have to move the camera back and forth until you find the point where things can be focused, and then do either manual or auto focus.

I find it much simpler to use the 50mm than the EX-25.
 
Thanks .. I like how i got close to Radars face ..

Im hopeing that others can chime in here as im not a techy person at all .. i just slap it on and experiment ...lol..
Im just sorta kinda learning the mm thingys on the lenses...lol

I did those with AF .. on both lenses..

Marion

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Alfred Eisenstaedt said “f/8 and be there.” 'And Shoot'
 
The chart on the Oly website indicates that all of the lenses focus
by manual focus except for the 50 mm f/2 . The 50 mm somehow focuses
by auto focus and/or manual focus. Is that right?
The 50f2/ex25 combo works with AF, but so do many other lenses. I believe the reason why Oly suggests (or states) using MF for the other lenses is that it is often very, very difficult to find focus using most lenses. The AF just isn't reliable, so they suggest (or state) using MF. I've used AF with the 50-200mm and 14-54mm, but MF is much easier. The DOF is so narrow when using the EX-25 that you literally are better off moving the camera back and forth (physically move it) until the subject comes into focus. Then manually adjust focus (every so slightly) to achieve the exact focus you want.
And the subject
range is shown as really limitted. But Marn's pictures seem to be
taken at various distances and magnifications. These don't seem to be
limitted at all. IS the focus range the range where it achieves true
macro of 1:1?
The focus range is only the range in which the camera can actually achieve focus. Outside of that range and it is impossible to focus. Naturally the closer you are, the more magnification you'll get. So the closest part of the focus range has the most magnification, while the furthest part of the focus range has the least magnification.

On the Oly website, for example, it indicates that when using the 14-54mm at 54mm the focus range is 17.7cm - 22.2cm with a magnification of 0.47 - 0.65X. So the at 17.7cm the magnification is 0.47X, and at 22.2cm the magnification is 0.65X. In between is just a calculation.

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/lens/dea/products/lens/ex-25/index.asp
If the 14-54 mm lens works at 54 mm with the extension tube then it
would be a really good macro at 108 mm equivalent. But I'm guessing
the 50 mm f/2 macro is probably more suited to macro.
Any comments from people like Marn who have used the extension tube,
or the 35 mm and 50 mm macro lenses? Thanks.
My personal opinion is that the longer the focal length the better. While the 50f/2 + EX-25 gives 1:1 magnification, you must be VERY close to the subject. Similar working distances of the 50f2/EX25 combo as the 35mm macro alone. Both are very, very short working distances, but the former has VERY narrow DOF while the latter gives a little more play.

I used the 50f/2 and EX-25 for a while and found it entirely too cumbersome - I sold the 50f/2 because I wasn't getting enough use out of it, but if I bought another macro lense it would be the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 hands down. The longer focal length gives you a longer working distance at the same magnification ratio. However, with a longer focal length DOF is decreased as well (though not as much as when using the EX-25), and bokeh will also be easier to obtain using a longer focal length.

Of course, to increase DOF just stop down to f/8 or f/11, but at those shutter speeds you'll need to be on a tripod.

Dave, the EX-25 that Marion is currently using is actually my extension tube that I mailed to her to try out before she bought one. If you would like, I can just have her mail it to you when she's done playing with it and you can take a turn using it as well. I rarely use it, and it would get more use in some other hands for a while. It's fairly difficult to use, so I think people should try it before they buy it.

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Tim
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...it's not usable with the 14-54. Oh well.....that's what it says
on the Olympus site.
Umm, if memory serves, it is usable at 54mm, just not the wide angle
focal lengths, just like it is usable on the 50mm. As I understand
it, the problem is the focal point would be inside the lens for wide
angle.
With wider angle lenses the focal point approaches the front element and then becomes inside the lense, making it impossible to use. It would be interesting though if one could focus on the front element to check for dust spots. =) But I would imagine the front element plays a role in the preliminary bending of light, so I would guess this wouldn't be possible.

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Tim
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