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I have posted this already in another forum,( The Nikon D40 D50 D80 forum) but I think it is appropriate to post this at this forum.

People overthere gave me a lot of very useful comments.

The picture is of my sweet, beautiful and well... very feminine wife.



this is the first version. I came to know that it's just very artificial and way too much overdone.

This is an revised version, much more toned down. However, especially the eyebrows are still too harsh.



What do you think? Any suggestions for improvements?

Cheers,

Bastiaan
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/

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'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us. Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for survival'.

Andras Tamas
 
wow...much better than the first. i would still clone over all the "shiny" spots using the clone tool...maybe on 20 percent, just enough so you cant see them any more. Also, when you're using any brush lower the opacity a little so the effects are subtle. then you can just keep clicking away until you get it where you want it

-brad
 
Brad, thanks for your explanation.

Fred, that is a great tutorial! Thanks for posting it, I have bookmarked it. It's just about what I'm struggling with: less is more. I have to translate it to paint shop pro, but it should be not too big a problem. An amazing result by the way, this sweet girl at the tutorial.

Cheers,

Bastiaan

--

'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us. Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for survival'.

Andras Tamas
 
I hope this helps and I don't mean to offend...looks like you smudged her cheeks and it is very uneven. The eyes are so processed they look like they were pasted from a painting. The iris is too white and flat. If you were trying to make a "painting" it would be fine but does not work on photos. When cleaning up the Iris,Teeth and Lips, try different blend modes so you will get the correct shadowing and it doesn't look like a blob of paint or whiteout. I like her natural eyebrows more but I can see you were trying to do a complete glamor makeover with eyeshadow, lashes, etc.

I used your pupils at a lower level and added a catch light.
My (Cspringer's) Skin Repair action at http://www.atncentral.com
Painted the Cheeks and lips and used the burn tool on her lashes and brows.
Studio Lighting technique
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=23345725


Bas2 said:
I have posted this already in another forum,( The Nikon D40 D50 D80
forum) but I think it is appropriate to post this at this forum.

People overthere gave me a lot of very useful comments.

The picture is of my sweet, beautiful and well... very feminine wife.



this is the first version. I came to know that it's just very
artificial and way too much overdone.

This is an revised version, much more toned down. However, especially
the eyebrows are still too harsh.



What do you think? Any suggestions for improvements?

Cheers,

Bastiaan
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/

--
'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us.
Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for
survival'.

Andras Tamas
Click to expand...
 


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JR
 
Hi JR,

Did you just lighten the photo, (besides removing red eyes) or did you lighten up extra her eyes?
Thanks for sharing your version.

Cheers,

Bas

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/
--

'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us. Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for survival'.

Andras Tamas
 
Cspringer, thanks for your version, she's looking way better!

I did visit the website you mentioned, very interesting actions, but if I understand correctly you can't open ATN file extensions with paint shop pro.

Cheers,

Bas

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/
--

'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us. Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for survival'.

Andras Tamas
 
opps...I guess not.

I think if you only fix the right cheek and the eyes you will have a much better image. Keep in mind that I used your eyes (pupils only) at a lower opacity and added a little catch light. I masked out the whites.

If you start making a Painterly image you need to do it on the entire image (at least the entire subject) or it just doesn't work. The main problem I see in edits are always the eyes. They often look like "doll" eyes with way too much processing or they look painted. Here is a perfect example of what I mean

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=26241114

Scott is a master at these smudge "Paintings" but if you put those eyes on a photo the person looks freakish.

I was watching CNN and they posted a picture of one of their male/black reporters that startled me. The skin was so smooth and he had eyes that looked like they were cut out of a painting. It looked like a police sketch artist drawing (on the Simpsons).
Bas2 said:
Cspringer, thanks for your version, she's looking way better!

I did visit the website you mentioned, very interesting actions, but
if I understand correctly you can't open ATN file extensions with
paint shop pro.

Cheers,

Bas

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/
--
'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us.
Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for
survival'.

Andras Tamas
Click to expand...
 
cspringer, thanks for your additional remarks. Yes in the thread you linked to, the eyes were much too 'painterly'.

I made a new version.

Most important was cloning parts of her throat to make it smoother, and applying a very slight soft focus, except for her eyes, which were again sharpened and lightened, but much more subdued this time.

Also I removed all shiny spots with the clone stamp.

I didn't add any make up since she choose to present herself so this time. The only exception was that I saturated slighty her lips with the saturation brush.

I took care to always set opacity quite low.

I darkened up the background to let her stand out more.

I saturated her clothes and ( beautiful!) legs and made an extra round with noise reduction at her boots. Because they are black,and the pic underexposed, noise was very visible. Unfortunately I couldn't remove all noise, there's also a bit of it at the black dress, but I think it won't show up in print.

What do you think?



Oh yes, shortly I will take pictures like this at home, so everything is more controlable. To be continued!

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/

--

'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us. Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for survival'.

Andras Tamas
 
I think that looks much more realistic...good job!
Bas2 said:
cspringer, thanks for your additional remarks. Yes in the thread you
linked to, the eyes were much too 'painterly'.

I made a new version.

Most important was cloning parts of her throat to make it smoother,
and applying a very slight soft focus, except for her eyes, which
were again sharpened and lightened, but much more subdued this time.

Also I removed all shiny spots with the clone stamp.

I didn't add any make up since she choose to present herself so this
time. The only exception was that I saturated slighty her lips with
the saturation brush.

I took care to always set opacity quite low.

I darkened up the background to let her stand out more.

I saturated her clothes and ( beautiful!) legs and made an extra
round with noise reduction at her boots. Because they are black,and
the pic underexposed, noise was very visible. Unfortunately I
couldn't remove all noise, there's also a bit of it at the black
dress, but I think it won't show up in print.

What do you think?



Oh yes, shortly I will take pictures like this at home, so everything
is more controlable. To be continued!

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/

--
'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us.
Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for
survival'.

Andras Tamas
Click to expand...
 
cspringer, thanks! From someone like you, with all your expertice,( I also read a couple of posts from you) that means a lot to me.



Cheers,

Bas

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/battle10/
--

'I believe that beauty, harmony and tranquility are vital to us. Every drop of it can be an elixir for our wounds in our fight for survival'.

Andras Tamas
 
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