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Gordon S Walker said:
Threaded view does make it a lot easier to understand
replies though without wasting bandwidth.
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We don't really need a poll... both views exist and both are used. If you want to reach all the viewers, quoting is the way to do it. If you don't, that's a personal decision.

Wasting bandwidth doesn't have much to do with quoting. I pare quoted passages down to the minimum to make them understandable -- and often reformat them in Clipmate to clean them up and make sure they don't break across the "> " marks.

Plenty of threaded-view posters quote entire messages, including leaving in linked photos.

And subject lines such as "happy?" and "that was sweet!" in this thread don't add much to understandability or search engine results (when the search engine is even working :-)

Cheers,
Don
http://www.kleptography.com
 
I run Firefox 99% of the time and fire up Avant Browser the other 1% when a site is IE orientated. IE only gets used for Windows updates. Avant is more secure than IE, especially as ActiveX is so easy to turn on/off in it.

Avant is a good browser. Firefox is just a much more functional browser with a couple of Add-ons, that's why I use it mainly and it's real torture to have to use IE at work, so SLOW in real interface operation rather than running speed.
 
like doubleclick is that certain sites stop working completely. Try the Foxnews.com videos for instance.
 
Brad99 said:
like doubleclick is that certain sites stop working
completely. Try the Foxnews.com videos for instance.
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After reading this thread, I installed AdBlock Plus and NoScript... AdBlock hasn't caused any problems yet, but I did notice that YouTube videos don't appear with NoScript.

HOWEVER, you can selectively allow any site to run scripts. It's just a matter of clicking the S in the lower-right corner of your screen in the status bar. I instructed it to allow scripts for YouTube and everything is fine.

If you visit many new sites just once, I can see that this would be a nuisance. Because I routinely visit only a dozen sites, I find it an acceptable solution.

Cheers,
Don
http://www.kleptography.com
 
Gordon S Walker said:
Threaded view does make it a lot easier to understand replies...
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Hi Gordon,

I've given the opinions presented here some more thought and compared them with my preference for Flat View and realized why I switched to flat when it became available.

For me, it's the difference between reading a newspaper in hand or online. Open a physical newspaper and you can quickly scan all the articles on two big pages and figure out what you want to read. Online, you have to rely on a short headline and then most often click each link to see if the article is of interest to you.

With Flat View, I open one thread and use my mouse wheel to quickly scroll through the messages, picking whatever information I want from each message and ignoring the ones that are "off-topic" for my needs.

With Threaded View, I have to click Next to see every message to make sure I don't miss something of value, since you can't rely on people changing subject lines so you can pinpoint what you want.

So... Flat View makes it easier to find the diamonds in the coal pile.

For me.

Cheers,
Don
http://www.kleptography.com
 
It is MUCH easier to tell who is replying to who/what in a one-screen view with threaded view.

Imagine a 100 post thread and how can you really tell who is talking to who with a flat view with reply after reply as you scroll down your screen? I certainly can't! :)

That's why I use threaded. Much easier to visualize the conversations.
 
linuxworks said:
'fox news'?

I understand the meaning of both of those words, but those 2 words
taken together has no meaning. I can't make any sense out of it?
(can anyone?)
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Having been wound up, I reply politely..........

Well, I actually said Foxnews.com which is a web address and agreed it probably doesn't appear in an English dictionary. Type it into your address bar and magical things happen.
 
Brad99 said:
linuxworks said:
'fox news'?

I understand the meaning of both of those words,
but those 2 words taken together has no meaning.
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Brad99 said:
Having been wound up, I reply politely.......... Well, I
actually said Foxnews.com which is a web address and
agreed it probably doesn't appear in an English dictionary.
Type it into your address bar and magical things happen.
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Perhaps you know this and I'm the one who doesn't get it... but he was referring to an oxymoron, such as "military intelligence" or "friendly fire." Meaning in this case that anything associated with Fox couldn't possibly be news. Open Talk invites comments like that... especially if they're true.

When I learned we would be getting CBS and ABC News in Hong Kong on a delayed broadcast, I was looking forward to it. But I'd been out of the country so long that I'd forgotten how shallow the journalistic waters were in America. Both programs are awful... but both are still better than Fox, which is simply appalling. The fact that it's popular is just salt in the wound.

Cheers,
Don
http://www.kleptography.com
 
Ah, right. I wouldn't know that really, being from the U.K. I've just got into the habit of using it as a test bed for things like 'do videos work, do ads appear' after I've changed something in my browser, because it seems very fussy especially with videos. Can't say I've ever actually read or viewed any of the news, as you suggest it doesn't seem very informative.
 
Brad99 said:
Ah, right. I wouldn't know that really, being from the U.K.
I've just got into the habit of using it as a test bed for
things like 'do videos work, do ads appear' after I've
changed something in my browser, because it seems very
fussy especially with videos.
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As a test for fussy video feeds, it may be great.
Brad99 said:
Can't say I've ever actually read or viewed any of the news,
as you suggest it doesn't seem very informative.
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I think one of their slogans was (is?): "We report. You decide." Whatever that might mean. Actually, I think it means we just waffle on and you sort it out. And I've never seen so many panel presentations with people jumbling their disparate views together in a mix of fact (small) and opinion (large). I prefer one or two people giving me some facts and keeping personal opinions to themselves.

Leela and I are BBC World people... both on television and radio. She's also a fan on the Internet but online I tend to go for GoogleNews which pulls stories from 4500 sources, so they say. I like the diversity, the layout, and the ability to customize the categories, the order of the categories and the number of stories per category -- news.google.com

Cheers,
Don
http://www.kleptography.com
 
you're a one of a kind predator linuxworks
the last viable solution to a pure and evolutionary
mankind.
a mohican like no other,
anyone who disagrees
stands in your way
sounds remotely skewed
ignorant
and arrogant
is shot and
done with.

i admire and comply with
your behavorial patterns
Ô patriarch of our modern
end of days,
i await you
to lead us through
with breadcrumbs
and bloodstains
unto the other side
where your divine
monkey
longs
to embrace our humanism
and thank us
for our time spent
here scavenging
Earth.

you're the man linuxworks. our modern crusader.

Z.
linuxworks said:
you are quite wrong about firefox.

it IS still far safer and better designed than IE.

to say other wise really shows your ignorance.

--
Bryan (pics only: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linux-works )
(pics and more: http://www.netstuff.org ) ~
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--
http://www.albertzablit.com
 
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