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Evidently he thinks this lens is pretty decent. Rating = 5/5

http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html

I just purchased the D3, but i think I may try and find a used 17-35 somewhere.

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I read his review of the 300 f4 and it was real negative. I think he gave it a 2-3 on an overall. I love that lens and will still get it to go with the D300 Further it wasn't only for the tripod collar which I have read can be fixed with a kirk or as others say there is nothing wrong with it. He did not like how it focused. I like his site but was surprised at that one.
 
Just curious to see some nice sample shots from this lens that are not of test items like book pages or whatnot.
 
choihoi said:
I read his review of the 300 f4 and it was real negative. I think he
gave it a 2-3 on an overall. I love that lens and will still get it
to go with the D300 Further it wasn't only for the tripod collar
which I have read can be fixed with a kirk or as others say there is
nothing wrong with it. He did not like how it focused. I like his
site but was surprised at that one.
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Sorry, but what does a review of the 300 f/4 (there are two 300mm f/4 AF lenses by he way, but I assume AF-S because of your reference to the tripod collar) have to do with the reason for this thread?

FWIW, he didn't have a problem with the focusing, just the tripod collar:

"It focuses very close so at the near limit at 1.45 m impressively tight shots are obtained. AF works fast and reliably both on D1 and F5. Images obtained with D1 under well-lit conditions (at fast shutter speeds) were crisp and sharp across the entire frame."
 
fraserj1 said:
choihoi said:
I read his review of the 300 f4 and it was real negative. I think he
gave it a 2-3 on an overall. I love that lens and will still get it
to go with the D300 Further it wasn't only for the tripod collar
which I have read can be fixed with a kirk or as others say there is
nothing wrong with it. He did not like how it focused. I like his
site but was surprised at that one.
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Sorry, but what does a review of the 300 f/4 (there are two 300mm f/4
AF lenses by he way, but I assume AF-S because of your reference to
the tripod collar) have to do with the reason for this thread?

FWIW, he didn't have a problem with the focusing, just the tripod
collar:

"It focuses very close so at the near limit at 1.45 m impressively
tight shots are obtained. AF works fast and reliably both on D1 and
F5. Images obtained with D1 under well-lit conditions (at fast
shutter speeds) were crisp and sharp across the entire frame."
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It has nothing to do with this thread. But before you get all bent out of shape I suggest you read the review and the paragraph in big red letters. Did I say I don't like the lens? I love this lens. I am wondering why he would make the overall "real world" rating a ONE for focus! I know he has a problem with the collar so what. So get off my back.
 
seriously, that design is circa 1995 :~
 
Jogger said:
seriously, that design is circa 1995 :~
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Then there will be no need for you to return to his site since it offends you, seriously.

With all Bjorn does for the Nikon community and the boundless information he provides free of charge I for one don't give a dam what his site looks like and I'm sure as hell not going to get on a forum a ***** about it.
 
So what? At least he knows how to spell.
 
fraserj1 said:
Sorry, but what does a review of the 300 f/4 (there are two 300mm f/4
AF lenses by he way, but I assume AF-S because of your reference to
the tripod collar) have to do with the reason for this thread?
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choihoi was expressing his opinion (his right) that he does not rate Bjorn's reviews at 10 out of 10.

Next Tuesday's UK AP in testing the D300 comments the 14-24 at 14mm has bad bokeh but does not go into detail other than publishing a small example.

The first half of the review (not the detailed test results - they want people to pay by buying the magazine) are at http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk For those in UK it puts the D300 well ahead of the D200.
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Get off your back, when you make inaccurate statements? I don't think so....

I read the review many times prior to purchasing MY 300mm f/4 AF-S. Maybe you should reread both my post and Bjorn's review because 1) I never stated you didn't like the lens and 2) Bjorn's review states that he did, in fact like the lens, but on the insufficient and poorly designed collar the lens performed poorly.

YOU were the one who stated (incorrectly I might add) that he didn't like the way it focused and by what I've read in the review, he doesn't seem to have a problem with the focusing at all. His disappointment with that lens comes SOLELY from the tripod collar (and especially so with a heavy camera), which to the best of my photographic knowledge has NOTHING to do with focusing.

Let me reiterate what Bjorn said about focusing:

"It focuses very close so at the near limit at 1.45 m impressively tight shots are obtained. AF works fast and reliably both on D1 and F5. Images obtained with D1 under well-lit conditions (at fast shutter speeds) were crisp and sharp across the entire frame."

Seems pretty positive with words like "impressively", "fast", "reliably", "crisp" and "sharp" - don't you think?

So before you try to deride any of Bjorn's reviews, make sure that you actually read them and understand what they say before you press the "Post" button.
choihoi said:
fraserj1 said:
choihoi said:
I read his review of the 300 f4 and it was real negative. I think he
gave it a 2-3 on an overall. I love that lens and will still get it
to go with the D300 Further it wasn't only for the tripod collar
which I have read can be fixed with a kirk or as others say there is
nothing wrong with it. He did not like how it focused. I like his
site but was surprised at that one.
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Sorry, but what does a review of the 300 f/4 (there are two 300mm f/4
AF lenses by he way, but I assume AF-S because of your reference to
the tripod collar) have to do with the reason for this thread?

FWIW, he didn't have a problem with the focusing, just the tripod
collar:

"It focuses very close so at the near limit at 1.45 m impressively
tight shots are obtained. AF works fast and reliably both on D1 and
F5. Images obtained with D1 under well-lit conditions (at fast
shutter speeds) were crisp and sharp across the entire frame."
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It has nothing to do with this thread. But before you get all bent
out of shape I suggest you read the review and the paragraph in big
red letters. Did I say I don't like the lens? I love this lens. I am
wondering why he would make the overall "real world" rating a ONE for
focus! I know he has a problem with the collar so what. So get off my
back.
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the 14-24 is in stock at ritzcamera.com now
 
Fraserj, if your going to ***** at someone for being off topic, you might think twice about then continuing on at length on that same topic. He was simply trying to state how he felt about Bjorn's reviews and he has a right to his opinion. Plus there's no need to get a big huge d-ckhead attitude over this stuff, right or wrong.

People are like little nasty children around here so much of the time.
 
It was one simple comment which I don't think was out of hand, but due to the nasty response and ensuing bruhaha half this thread is now about the 300 f/4 or Bjorn.

A simple, "let's stay on topic", would have been fine and worked much better, but since he used it as a chance to spew some negative bile the thread is now greatly diluted.

Thanks to the OP for the info, it's good to hear what Bjorn has to say, I don't agree with him 100%, 100% of the time, but he does give lot's of good info.

I should have my 14-24 on Monday and will be testing it against the 17-35. Sadly on a D300 and not the D3 anytime soon it seems. I'll post my results at some point.
 
choihoi said:
I read his review of the 300 f4 and it was real negative. I think he
gave it a 2-3 on an overall. I love that lens and will still get it
to go with the D300 Further it wasn't only for the tripod collar
which I have read can be fixed with a kirk or as others say there is
nothing wrong with it. He did not like how it focused. I like his
site but was surprised at that one.
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Bjorn clearly explained why he did not get any critically sharp images with the AF-S 300/4. It was because of the tripod collar. And, BTW, many others have expressed the same as well. And, in many forums Bjorn has also explained that if the collar is refined, this lens works really-really great.

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