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During the last couple of months I have been visiting this forum with great plaisure.
I have learned so many things in such a short time.

If this forum would not have been here,it would have taken me much more longer to get to know all the differents things about digital photography.

But all I read now is nothing but speculations about everything you can think of of the new D 100.
It starts to get a bit boring.

So I suggest to start a new forum for the D 100 or anyone who wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.

http://www.julienlanda.nl

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Julien
 
Julien Landa said:
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During the last couple of months I have been visiting this forum
with great plaisure.
I have learned so many things in such a short time.
If this forum would not have been here,it would have taken me much
more longer to get to know all the differents things about digital
photography.

But all I read now is nothing but speculations about everything you
can think of of the new D 100.
It starts to get a bit boring.
So I suggest to start a new forum for the D 100 or anyone who
wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin
your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.

http://www.julienlanda.nl

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Julien
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I agree with Julien. As a D1 and D1x user I am growing tired of users posting on-and-on about a camera that does not even exist. There will be no D100's until August or later. Come back when the reviews are available at least. That might be in late July, but don't hold your breath.
 
No - I'd rather not.

Why - because someone else wants to exclude reading about the D1x or the H or objects to viewing images.

Before long we will have a stupid header code something like:

D100IMGNTCOMWEL or
D100IMGNTCOMNOT
D1XDISTECHAPENOR

Just to warn everyone that I want to talk about the D100, have enclosed and IMMAGE (so be warned) – I have no text but welcome comments or that I do not welcome comments (so don’t reply unless constructive). Or I want to discuss a technical issue on the application front – experts to reply only please.

One just cannot please everyone and usually just fouls up things more when one tries.

A new forum no bother
 
I think Phil has done a great job with the structuring of the forums. Keeping each brand's SLR offerings apart from the P&S groups , the galleries etc.

More to the point: if the D100 talk was moved off this forum (or any other camera), I, for one, would have missed out on very valuable information, as I would have just looked at that forum.

And, as I pick up my brand new D1H and shoot another ballgame, I think back to when I was trying to decide D60 or D100 and came looking for info...only to learn that the camera I was really looking for was already available.

That wouldn't have happened had I been funnelled into a D100 "only" forum.

That's my 2.
 
I used to frequent Steve's Digicam forum when he had the old layout maybe a year or more ago. Now I rarely go there because it seems the forums are split up so severely that any one forum only gets a post avery day or so. Much too slow to be of interest. I certainly hope the same thing doesn't happen here. PatiO.
 
Sure we will.....anything else we can do for you? sorry to make you read too much. ( ha ha ha)
Julien Landa said:
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During the last couple of months I have been visiting this forum
with great plaisure.
I have learned so many things in such a short time.
If this forum would not have been here,it would have taken me much
more longer to get to know all the differents things about digital
photography.

But all I read now is nothing but speculations about everything you
can think of of the new D 100.
It starts to get a bit boring.
So I suggest to start a new forum for the D 100 or anyone who
wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin
your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.

http://www.julienlanda.nl

-
Julien
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Julien Landa said:
But all I read now is nothing but speculations about everything you
can think of of the new D 100.
It starts to get a bit boring.
So I suggest to start a new forum for the D 100 or anyone who
wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin
your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.
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I strongly disagree. Look at the structure at nikonians.org and then ponder why it is that I post so infrequently there (hint: count how many forums I'd have to navigate to, and how many clicks it takes to get to messages I might answer). There's a delicate balance between adding new forums and keeping the structure small and clean.

I've watched for over a dozen years now as first Usenet, then private forums all follow the same arc: when they are more massed and common denominator, they attract more experts and both lurkers and posters tend to learn more because of the cross fertilization that occurs (e.g., a flash question about the D100 is likely to answer the same question about the D1x). As these larger forums fracture into smaller ones, they lose experts (who can't afford the time to look at 10 forums a day, but can browse quickly through 1 or 2), they become more specialized, lose volume, and often drift in focus as a small few active posters tend to "hijack" the forums towards their interests. (A note: I get as much FROM these forums as I return to them. My books are better because of healthy forums that have knowledgeable and active posts.)

A few years back there used to be a very large Nikon mailing list (> 7000 members) that was among the very best of the photography discussions. It is now gone. In its place are about a half-dozen yahoogroups. All are smaller, and only one manages to retain the quality of the original, and it is highly focused on only manual Nikon 35mm bodies.

Which brings me to my other point: forums work best when there's a discipline imposed on them. As off-topic posts start to proliferate, if no one does anything about that, the forum degrades and eventually loses readers. Ger's suggestion that we get more disciplined about our subject headers is a good one.

Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide
author, Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guide to the Nikon D1, D1h, & D1x
http://www.bythom.com
 
Julien Landa said:
So I suggest to start a new forum for the D 100 or anyone who
wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin
your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.
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I think that mostly happens (D100 in the subject)...

I can understand your question, but it is something that occurs in most forums : people are getting excited about new hardware, and want to know everything there is to know.

In the Matroxusers forum (of which I'm also a member), there is a special forum called "the crystall ball", intended for speculation about upcoming Matrox products). But of course, the situation is entirely different : there is just 1 manufacturer there, and fewer threads (there even is a "soap box", to start non-serious threads). Having a seperate D100 forum here does not seem like a good idea (as stated by some other posters). If there will be talk about a D1x/h successor, I'm sure that there will again be a lot of speculation about it : would you suggest setting up another seperate forum ? That is something that simply cannot be done (too much forums over time).

I doubt a seperate "speculationforum" would work here, as people tend to compare a new model of a make with the existing models of that same make, but perhaps other people have other opinions ?

Jörg
 
Thom Hogan said:
Julien Landa said:
But all I read now is nothing but speculations about everything you
can think of of the new D 100.
It starts to get a bit boring.
So I suggest to start a new forum for the D 100 or anyone who
wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin
your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.
Click to expand...
I strongly disagree. Look at the structure at nikonians.org and
then ponder why it is that I post so infrequently there (hint:
count how many forums I'd have to navigate to, and how many clicks
it takes to get to messages I might answer). There's a delicate
balance between adding new forums and keeping the structure small
and clean.

I've watched for over a dozen years now as first Usenet, then
private forums all follow the same arc: when they are more massed
and common denominator, they attract more experts and both lurkers
and posters tend to learn more because of the cross fertilization
that occurs (e.g., a flash question about the D100 is likely to
answer the same question about the D1x). As these larger forums
fracture into smaller ones, they lose experts (who can't afford the
time to look at 10 forums a day, but can browse quickly through 1
or 2), they become more specialized, lose volume, and often drift
in focus as a small few active posters tend to "hijack" the forums
towards their interests. (A note: I get as much FROM these forums
as I return to them. My books are better because of healthy forums
that have knowledgeable and active posts.)

A few years back there used to be a very large Nikon mailing list
(> 7000 members) that was among the very best of the photography
discussions. It is now gone. In its place are about a half-dozen
yahoogroups. All are smaller, and only one manages to retain the
quality of the original, and it is highly focused on only manual
Nikon 35mm bodies.

Which brings me to my other point: forums work best when there's a
discipline imposed on them. As off-topic posts start to
proliferate, if no one does anything about that, the forum degrades
and eventually loses readers. Ger's suggestion that we get more
disciplined about our subject headers is a good one.
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I see your point,Thom

Still I cannot understand that so many people start so many threads with statements of a camera that is yet to come.

I would understand that this forum will be overwhelmed with enthousiastic or dissapointed reactions once the camera or a preview has been released.
 
VJ said:
Julien Landa said:
So I suggest to start a new forum for the D 100 or anyone who
wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin
your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.
Click to expand...
I think that mostly happens (D100 in the subject)...

I can understand your question, but it is something that occurs in
most forums : people are getting excited about new hardware, and
want to know everything there is to know.
In the Matroxusers forum (of which I'm also a member), there is a
special forum called "the crystall ball", intended for speculation
about upcoming Matrox products). But of course, the situation is
entirely different : there is just 1 manufacturer there, and fewer
threads (there even is a "soap box", to start non-serious threads).
Having a seperate D100 forum here does not seem like a good idea
(as stated by some other posters). If there will be talk about a
D1x/h successor, I'm sure that there will again be a lot of
speculation about it : would you suggest setting up another
seperate forum ? That is something that simply cannot be done (too
much forums over time).
I doubt a seperate "speculationforum" would work here, as people
tend to compare a new model of a make with the existing models of
that same make, but perhaps other people have other opinions ?
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Maybe my request for an other forum was a bit too bold.
But I wanted to express that this forum is turning somewhat in a fortunetelling
medium.

Nobody knows the exact date of release nor the exact price and so on,and everyday there comes another person who sais that he has heard this and that but nothing is veryfied yet.
 
Is the D100 a "Nikon SLR"? Yes-so it would seem logical to discuss it in the "Nikon SLR Forum". Should we seperate them all and have:
"Nikon D1 Forum"
"Nikon D1H Forum"
Nikon D1X Forum"

I think not. Just skip the posts that dont appeal or pertain to you.
 
Your guide was all that you promised. Been using the D1 for 2 years and the D1x for half that time. You helped much!
Thom Hogan said:
Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide
author, Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guide to the Nikon D1, D1h, & D1x
http://www.bythom.com
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Jason Busch said:
Jason Busch said:
or anyone who wants to say or ask something concerning the D 100 please begin your thread with D 100,sothat I know that I can skip that one.
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Why didn'y you include "D100" in your post? I could have avoided
this thread! :)
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Can you read? I did
Jason Busch said:
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Websites:
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'I do just about everything in my CCDs...'
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I think the point is that the D100 is not a Nikon SLR. Not yet. It is a prototype that has been schlepped out at a trade show. I took the point to be that this forum would be better served with posts for and by those who are actually using Nikon SLR cameras. The bevey of wanna-be users is hurting the overall quality of this forum.
auroraproject said:
auroraproject wrote:

Is the D100 a "Nikon SLR"? Yes-so it would seem logical to
discuss it in the "Nikon SLR Forum". Should we seperate them all
and have:
"Nikon D1 Forum"
"Nikon D1H Forum"
Nikon D1X Forum"

I think not. Just skip the posts that dont appeal or pertain to you.
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Jason Butler said:
I think the point is that the D100 is not a Nikon SLR. Not yet.
It is a prototype that has been schlepped out at a trade show. I
took the point to be that this forum would be better served with
posts for and by those who are actually using Nikon SLR cameras.
The bevey of wanna-be users is hurting the overall quality of this
forum.
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I like to visit here for more info on the d1 and the d1 family and would not mind some info on the d100......but it is annoying that the same small handful of "d100 experts" answer in so many threads even those that are not d100 specific. And they often come accross with comments as if they have been shooting for sometime with a nikon dslr. How they can know so much about what lens is best with nikon dslr when they have never owned is beyond me! I enjoy the pros and vets who have many thousands of shots to share there hands on knowledge and have the images to back up the talk. Thom, Ron, Stephen....luv ya. The d100 experts need more hands on experience, shooting time and images that speak for themselves. Until then maybe less post is good for the forum. I often wonder if they post so much to plug their d1oo club/forum......after all you have to get traffic somehow to get advertisers. Nef said! :-)
 
Jason Butler said:
I think the point is that the D100 is not a Nikon SLR.
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Really?? What is it then?? A toaster? or perhaps a microwave? This is an absurd comment if I've ever seen one!!
Jason Butler said:
It is a prototype that has been schlepped out at a trade show.
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Hmm a prototype huh?? Of what?? Maybe it's a Nikon SLR!!
Jason Butler said:
The bevey of wanna-be users is hurting the overall quality of this
forum.
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Well in my opinion your response to my post isn't doing much to improve the quality of this forum. If there are posts that you dont like then ignore them-yes it really is that simple!!
 
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