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I feel the same. If my K10D had an AF assist lamp then it would be pretty much a perfect camera to me. I don't understand how my 4 year old Fuji F810 point and shoot compact can have an AF assist lamp built in and my new, modern, 'state of the art' DSLR doesn't.Thanks for summarizing it all up. There's one thing that really
bothers me, and that was the lack of the AF-Assist lamp. Something
that you can switch on or off. If Pentax does not include that
obvious feature, I don't know what they're trying to get at.
Here's to hoping that it does get into the final feature list, for
both K200D, and K20D.
Actually, it is possible if the new sensor has a sufficiently higher "fill rate", that is, if the area of the surface devoted to the actual photosites is larger. Then each photosite would be as large or larger than on the current 10 MP Sony sensor.Smaller pixels but better dynamic range? That is not possible.
I think that a FF sensor from Pentax is not going to happen in the near future. They simply couldn't supply the needed redesigned FF WA lenses.Yeah, but I bet the sensor would not be 14mp, unless it is a full
frame sensor.
What program?They use any old ones, for example, my sigma 18-125 is IDed
as a Pentax F 28-80 and my 10-20 is a Sigma 18-55 f3.5-5.6
Often i use my car to drive to shoots so I should not drink anyway, therefore no priority.will it open my beer bottles and play MP3's??![]()
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The difference between genius and LBA is that genius has its
limits.
- Janneman ( adaptation of the Kings quote from Albert Einstein)
Well, not everyone, only guys like you with some Pentax insightYep, so everyone says.14 Mp CMOS APS-C sensor, probably a Pentax design. Not Sony, Fujitsu,
Kodak or Foveon.
Must be difficult finding statements like that, not violating your NDA and not being wrong. Could it be a crop mode with higher fps... c´mon, you can tell...Seems soBetter DR than K10D
ProbablyImproved SR
PossiblyAF fine adjustments
Nah. Maybe more than one rate?Frame rate (from other forum) 1-2 fps behind competitors. Probably 4
fps (my guess).
lol, you got me there! Not sure it would be fantastic though to carry a DSLR with a 40' (noticed the 2*' ?) screen....especially if youre on crutches!Would be really sensible, nice for those who want to add a body only.Similar body as K10D, stainless steel + plastic, compatible with K10D
BG2 grip.
Now that would be fantastic! But they can't fit a 3' screen (' = ft,Live view in LCD, larger, wide viewing angles, probably 3'
" = inch) ;-)
Samsung...also does P-TTL!Seems it's the "monkey see, monkey do" trend.14 bit RAW
Who else does?P-TTL flash (no TTL support)
Dunno, maybe you lost them when you tripped over the wires.So you can now trip over the wires!PC sync connector
Ummm, where's my crutches?!!Lens mount same as K10D, still ”crippled”
That would be great.Ohhh yesss!+ lots of more features??
Indeed it will! Maybe, if Pentax are up to it and very nice to him,There have been no leaks on updates on the AF system, although it
seems to be one of the most wanted upgrade in terms of lowlight
performance, speed and CAF tracking performance.
24 jan 2008 will be an interesting date.
Uncle Phill will also give us a pre-view at much the same time. ;-)
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therefore no priority.
However, I would welcome the idea of built in toilet paper!!!!
Nature shooters often have to respond to the call of nature.
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The difference between genius and LBA is that genius has its
limits.
- Janneman ( adaptation of the Kings quote from Albert Einstein)
Pentax has changed the namming convention with the Optio serie.Everybody seems to assume that the new models will be named K20D and
K200D. But that would contradict the Pentax convention that smaller
number = more advanced camera (as K10D, K100D, K110D). In that sense,
K5D and K50D would be more likely.
Pentax began work on new sensor in 2004, then I didn't heard about it again. Until now. It seems like it is ready to release it now. Why designing their own sensor?I doubt it very much. Sony's 12mp is available so why bother with a
14mp sensor that is surely going to be noisier than Sony's 12mp.
Canon wisely stopped (at least for the moment) at 10mp, probably to
prevent noise from getting out of hand.
It seems to me that you are assuming that the sensor uses the Bayer colour pattern.Smaller pixels but better dynamic range? That is not possible.
It is APS-C full frame, but not 24x36 full frame.Yeah, but I bet the sensor would not be 14mp, unless it is a full
frame sensor.
This is my understanding:Actually, it is possible if the new sensor has a sufficientlySmaller pixels but better dynamic range? That is not possible.
higher "fill rate", that is, if the area of the surface devoted to
the actual photosites is larger. Then each photosite would be as
large or larger than on the current 10 MP Sony sensor.
With a CCD the "bucket" is large in relation to the size of the pixel, the Light well makes up a large portion of the Pixel, while with a CMOS it makes a very small portion of the pixel, the rest is made up of circuitry. If the circuitry could be reduced the size of the "bucket" could be increased, Samsung are working on a CMOS technology where the circuits are underneath the light well, making it posible for the light well to be as large as the pixel.This is my understanding:
"dynamic range" seems to be a bit ambiguous. It should mean the
biggest range from dark to bright. Sometimes though people read it as
tonal range, which is the number of tones (gradations) in the dynamic
range.
For an analogy of a CCD sensor, think of a bucket (capacitor), rain
(light) and a funnel (micro lens).
Dynamic range is proportional to Bucket / funnel.
Tonal range is proportional to the bucket size.
SR ratio is a increased with funnel size.
Base ISO is proportional to Funnel/Bucket
--So, I think you're both wrong ;-]
To get another stop of DR with changing only the capacitor, you'd
need to double the capacitance. This would double the capacitor size.
Space is at a premium on APSC I suspect. You could shrink the
micro-lens, but then you'd increase noise.
If you don't believe me, look at the Fuji high DR camera, the F700.
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cheers!
Gunn
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Jolly good! Wouldn't that be nice?With a CCD the "bucket" is large in relation to the size of theThis is my understanding:
For an analogy of a CCD sensor, think of a bucket (capacitor), rain
(light) and a funnel (micro lens).
Dynamic range is proportional to Bucket / funnel.
Tonal range is proportional to the bucket size.
SR ratio is a increased with funnel size.
Base ISO is proportional to Funnel/Bucket
pixel, the Light well makes up a large portion of the Pixel, while
with a CMOS it makes a very small portion of the pixel, the rest is
made up of circuitry. If the circuitry could be reduced the size of
the "bucket" could be increased, Samsung are working on a CMOS
technology where the circuits are underneath the light well, making
it posible for the light well to be as large as the pixel.
Amused myself with colllecting info from diferent K20D rumour
threads, below is my summary.
14 Mp CMOS APS-C sensor, probably a Pentax design. Not Sony, Fujitsu,
Kodak or Foveon.
Better DR than K10D
Improved SR
AF fine adjustments
Frame rate (from other forum) 1-2 fps behind competitors. Probably 4
fps (my guess).
Similar body as K10D, stainless steel + plastic, compatible with K10D
BG2 grip.
Live view in LCD, larger, wide viewing angles, probably 3'
14 bit RAW
P-TTL flash (no TTL support)
PC sync connector
Lens mount same as K10D, still ”crippled”
+ lots of more features??
There have been no leaks on updates on the AF system, although it
seems to be one of the most wanted upgrade in terms of lowlight
performance, speed and CAF tracking performance.
24 jan 2008 will be an interesting date.
Mats
If that were the case, then fine - the subject would be moot.If it was possible to do that within the limits of the K10D, Pentax
would have done that.