What Windows Platform is Best

Mike is right. Both Home and Pro are fundamentally the same program, based on NT technology (as is Win 2k). You could say that Pro uses Home as it's core - Pro expands on Home by adding features such as domain support and ability to run dual CPU's. Other than the better back-up utility in Pro (which isn't great) there is no reason for the average user to spend the extra bucks for Pro.

Mike Fried said:

widman said:

Be carefull of WinXP. There are 2 version

• WinXP Home - which is used Win ME core
• WinXP Professional - which is used Windows 2000 core

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This is simply wrong. The difference between WinXP Home and
Professional are that XP Pro supports features like multiple
monitors, remote desktop, etc. For Microsoft's page describing the
difference, go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp
-Mike

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Karl

I run Windows XP and am not aware of any yearly fee. Also, it seems to ask me whether I want to proceed before sending any information (and only claims to be sending error reports). Do you have any links to web-sites that have more detail on what this process involves? Like many people, I have no problem with copyright protection, but am not so keen on Microsoft having full access to my hard-drive.

Thanks for raising the issues you have. I have been curious about these interchanges between MSFT and my computer for a while, and hopefully will be enlightened in the near future.

Regards,
Neil.

Karl H. Timmerman M.A.J.D. said:

bob d, I mean no ill will or disrespect. XP has some really neat
features I have played with them. XP is buggy and has some
problems ... which will be fixed. WIN 2K has 90% of the features
...and does not call home. I am curious: are you OK with having
to pay MS a yearly fee, (whatever it may be) for accessing your
computer and having MS verify what you have on your computer, ( to
make sure you are not "pirating" software?). Again ... I mean no
disrespect: just curious.
Warmest Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com

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please check again in microsoft website
this line I extract from
http://www.microsoft.com/msdn
-> windows Development
-> windows XP
-> Technical Articles
-> Microsoft Windows XP: What's in It for Developers?

"For client machines, Windows XP has two editions, Professional and Home. Professional is for use in businesses and supercedes Windows 2000 Professional, offering the functionality needed for corporations and other businesses. The Home Edition is for consumer use and supercedes Windows Me. Both Windows XP editions include such features as enhanced support for digital media and the new computer sharing capabilities of fast user switching."

Bill said:

Mike Fried said:

widman said:

Be carefull of WinXP. There are 2 version

• WinXP Home - which is used Win ME core
• WinXP Professional - which is used Windows 2000 core

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This is simply wrong. The difference between WinXP Home and
Professional are that XP Pro supports features like multiple
monitors, remote desktop, etc. For Microsoft's page describing the
difference, go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp
-Mike

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read this web
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

if you ever used both win 98/ME and win nt/2000, you know what he's talking about.

You can have clue also on 2nd last paragraph about upgrading. it states that Win NT and Win 2000 cannot be upgraded to Win XP Home. Why this happened if Win XP Home is based on Win 2000 core???

Bill said:

Mike Fried said:

widman said:

Be carefull of WinXP. There are 2 version

• WinXP Home - which is used Win ME core
• WinXP Professional - which is used Windows 2000 core

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This is simply wrong. The difference between WinXP Home and
Professional are that XP Pro supports features like multiple
monitors, remote desktop, etc. For Microsoft's page describing the
difference, go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp
-Mike

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Possibly becase they employ spokesmen who think that the following provides useful information:

"With XP, the home version is what it is,"

Hahaha. Who does he think he is? Sartre?

widman said:

You can have clue also on 2nd last paragraph about upgrading. it
states that Win NT and Win 2000 cannot be upgraded to Win XP Home.
Why this happened if Win XP Home is based on Win 2000 core???

Bill said:

Mike Fried said:

widman said:

Be carefull of WinXP. There are 2 version

• WinXP Home - which is used Win ME core
• WinXP Professional - which is used Windows 2000 core

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This is simply wrong. The difference between WinXP Home and
Professional are that XP Pro supports features like multiple
monitors, remote desktop, etc. For Microsoft's page describing the
difference, go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp
-Mike

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widman said:

"For client machines, Windows XP has two editions, Professional and
Home. Professional is for use in businesses and supercedes Windows
2000 Professional, offering the functionality needed for
corporations and other businesses. The Home Edition is for consumer
use and supercedes Windows Me. Both Windows XP editions include
such features as enhanced support for digital media and the new
computer sharing capabilities of fast user switching."

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Those are the MARKETS for which each version is designed.

Home for the home market, Pro for the pro/workstation market.

ALL versions of XP (home, pro, server), however, are based on the NT/Windows 2000 core, with support for preemptive multitasking, NTFS, security, etc. Check out MS's own site:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/evaluation/features.asp

"With Windows XP Home Edition, Microsoft has merged the best features of its consumer operating systems with the power, security, and reliability of the Windows 2000 engine to create a new friendlier, more dependable operating system."

XP is WIN 2K with some new features, a jazzed-up interface, and all Service Packs installed. Trust me.

Show me the line that state XP Home support NTFS on that web!

Michael Long said:

Michael Long said:

"For client machines, Windows XP has two editions, Professional and
Home. Professional is for use in businesses and supercedes Windows
2000 Professional, offering the functionality needed for
corporations and other businesses. The Home Edition is for consumer
use and supercedes Windows Me. Both Windows XP editions include
such features as enhanced support for digital media and the new
computer sharing capabilities of fast user switching."

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Those are the MARKETS for which each version is designed.

Home for the home market, Pro for the pro/workstation market.

ALL versions of XP (home, pro, server), however, are based on the
NT/Windows 2000 core, with support for preemptive multitasking,
NTFS, security, etc. Check out MS's own site:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/evaluation/features.asp

"With Windows XP Home Edition, Microsoft has merged the best
features of its consumer operating systems with the power,
security, and reliability of the Windows 2000 engine to create a
new friendlier, more dependable operating system."

XP is WIN 2K with some new features, a jazzed-up interface, and all
Service Packs installed. Trust me.

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For all that use XP Home edition,
Can you help me check is there any NTDll.dll in c:\winnt\System32 directory?

IF this file is exist so XP Home edition is based on Win 2000/NT for this file is the NT OS kernel. So I make mistake for stating that Win XP Home is from Win ME.

I've got WinXP Home Edition... and yes, ntdll.dll is in my C:\Win\System32 directory. -659 KB NT Layer DLL File version:5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)-

Oh.. and my file system IS NTFS. I'm very happy with WinXp Home, it has quite a few features that come along handy with dealing with digital photos. Much more stable than my previous version of Win98SE. I think I've only had one lockup/crash since installing, 5 months ago. It is true though, that one of my old film scanners won't work with XP, but it wouldn't work with 2000 or NT either, Olympus didn't want to take the time to update their drivers. ::

widman said:

For all that use XP Home edition,
Can you help me check is there any NTDll.dll in c:\winnt\System32
directory?

IF this file is exist so XP Home edition is based on Win 2000/NT
for this file is the NT OS kernel. So I make mistake for stating
that Win XP Home is from Win ME.

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thank you,

Microsoft was working hard for WinXP home edition. I tested the WinXP Pro it's the same as Win 2000. And when I looked WinXP Home brochure
it seems similiar like WinME and only task manager similiar like NT.

Broose Vader said:

Oh.. and my file system IS NTFS. I'm very happy with WinXp Home,
it has quite a few features that come along handy with dealing with
digital photos. Much more stable than my previous version of
Win98SE. I think I've only had one lockup/crash since installing, 5
months ago. It is true though, that one of my old film scanners
won't work with XP, but it wouldn't work with 2000 or NT either,
Olympus didn't want to take the time to update their drivers.
::

widman said:

For all that use XP Home edition,
Can you help me check is there any NTDll.dll in c:\winnt\System32
directory?

IF this file is exist so XP Home edition is based on Win 2000/NT
for this file is the NT OS kernel. So I make mistake for stating
that Win XP Home is from Win ME.

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WIN2K SP2

Hello

WinXP will probably be better when the fisrt sp will be out. Till then use WIN2K SP2. I am in the computer business. XP is too young. w2ksp2 is stable.

Another point, I do not want my computer to do anything without asking me and there should be a way to disable such feature. I also do not want to get permission to use something I own just because something was modified in the hardware. Would you buy a car if after changing the tires you would have to call the manufacturer to get permission to use it again ?

I use w2k and am waiting for photoshop to port itself to linux.

Gaetan J.

Aye,

Running 2000 and XP here side by side they're both working fine. BE SURE TO update using WINDOWS UPDATE page to the latest patches. Very important, if you don't do this you will have a buggy system.

S

dgrogers said:

carol said:

I have recently managed to mess up my computer and will have to
re-install everything. Can anyone tell me what is the best Windows
operating system to handle the digital imaging programs? Currently
running 98; tried ME and was not happy, IT tech at work recommends
2000. Your suggestions and comments are much appreciated.

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I am in the same position as you.

But I really keen to test XP Home, as they all say it's very good.
No harm to test the XP Home. Anyway my company has corporate
licence for MSDN.

As I will see whether any possibility my code run on XP Home for price reason. I'm writing application for WinNT and Win2000. It's really NT/2000 specific. For Win XP Pro I tested briefly. It's another Win 2000 except for the screen. So I rollback to Win 2000. It didn't impress me much.

Gaetan J. said:

WIN2K SP2

Hello

WinXP will probably be better when the fisrt sp will be out. Till
then use WIN2K SP2. I am in the computer business. XP is too young.
w2ksp2 is stable.

Another point, I do not want my computer to do anything without
asking me and there should be a way to disable such feature. I also
do not want to get permission to use something I own just because
something was modified in the hardware. Would you buy a car if
after changing the tires you would have to call the manufacturer to
get permission to use it again ?

I use w2k and am waiting for photoshop to port itself to linux.

Gaetan J.

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Had more than one Microsoft Tech admit as much on various tech calls.

If anyone who has ME wants my technical help they have to be willing to let me wipe it and start over with a real operating system.

S

Scott LaFond said:

Running 2000 and XP here side by side they're both working fine.
BE SURE TO update using WINDOWS UPDATE page to the latest patches.
Very important, if you don't do this you will have a buggy system.

S

dgrogers said:

carol said:

I have recently managed to mess up my computer and will have to
re-install everything. Can anyone tell me what is the best Windows
operating system to handle the digital imaging programs? Currently
running 98; tried ME and was not happy, IT tech at work recommends
2000. Your suggestions and comments are much appreciated.

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This is true, XP home and pro are based upon the same kernel which is the 2000 kernel.

Pro's additions as far as I know have more to do with additional network software for controls and most importantly the ability to encrypt files on your hardrive.

Windows ME is long gone here and not a moment too soon. Perhaps Microsofts most shameful software upgrade ever offered IMHO.

S

Mike Fried said:

widman said:

Be carefull of WinXP. There are 2 version

• WinXP Home - which is used Win ME core
• WinXP Professional - which is used Windows 2000 core

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This is simply wrong. The difference between WinXP Home and
Professional are that XP Pro supports features like multiple
monitors, remote desktop, etc. For Microsoft's page describing the
difference, go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp
-Mike

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The reason why MS says you can't upgrade to Home from Win 2K or NT is that, among other things, these 2 older OS's support networks/domains; Home doesn't, Pro does. I have Pro on my desktop and Home on my laptop. Trust me, they are the same except for the features already noted.

widman said:

You can have clue also on 2nd last paragraph about upgrading. it
states that Win NT and Win 2000 cannot be upgraded to Win XP Home.
Why this happened if Win XP Home is based on Win 2000 core???

Bill said:

Mike Fried said:

widman said:

Be carefull of WinXP. There are 2 version

• WinXP Home - which is used Win ME core
• WinXP Professional - which is used Windows 2000 core

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This is simply wrong. The difference between WinXP Home and
Professional are that XP Pro supports features like multiple
monitors, remote desktop, etc. For Microsoft's page describing the
difference, go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp
-Mike

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carol67044 said:

carol wrote:
I have recently managed to mess up my computer and will have to
re-install everything. Can anyone tell me what is the best Windows
operating system to handle the digital imaging programs? Currently
running 98; tried ME and was not happy, IT tech at work recommends
2000. Your suggestions and comments are much appreciated.

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I have been working in the IT industry for over 11 years - with some experience in graphic design, photography, imaging/pre-press, and printing...and I can tell you from experience....

Without a doubt - Windows XP Professional - especially if you have a network to which your machine is connected. If no network, then XP Home Edition should fit the bill at somewhat less expense. XP Pro has more robust networking capabilities.

Whichever platform you decide upon, I wish you luck in your reinstallation, and hope you are happy with the results.

Regards,
SJ©

Scott LaFond said:

Scott LaFond wrote:
This is true, XP home and pro are based upon the same kernel which
is the 2000 kernel.

Pro's additions as far as I know have more to do with additional
network software for controls and most importantly the ability to
encrypt files on your hardrive.

Windows ME is long gone here and not a moment too soon. Perhaps
Microsofts most shameful software upgrade ever offered IMHO.

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Someone has forgotten about Microsoft Bob!

Scott LaFond said:

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Mike Fried said:

widman said:

Be carefull of WinXP. There are 2 version

• WinXP Home - which is used Win ME core
• WinXP Professional - which is used Windows 2000 core

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This is simply wrong. The difference between WinXP Home and
Professional are that XP Pro supports features like multiple
monitors, remote desktop, etc. For Microsoft's page describing the
difference, go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp
-Mike

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Karl I've read a couple of the things you have written here and what you have written is just plain misinformation.

You keep going on about XP calling home all the time, where do you get that idea from? You have to register the software once. Usually this is done by the supplier if you are buying a new comput r meaning it doesn't register any private information about you whatsoever. It doesn't even know who you are. It registers the hardware in your machine and should you need to reinstall ( hardly likely because XP is in fact not at all buggy! I tried alll ways to crash it and couldn't. Another piece of misinformation) then it calls the internet database, compares to see that you've made less than 6 hardware changes and if that's correct then lets you go ahead. It takes a few seconds and you don't have to call anyone. By the way, you have 30 days to make the call each time so there's no hurry.

Also, XP has more drivers available than Win2000 which everyone agrees is an excellent system. That's a plus over 2000 which also has a lot of intrusive security features which are not very user friendly for the home user.

Furthermore, what is this stuff about paying MS a yearly fee to access your computer? Where do you get this stuff from? I live in France but I bought my sytem from the US. how do you think they will get any money out of me?

You may not like MS and you may have a point about them being heavy handed but you really should check your facts before you make such a big thing about it.

Finally, yes MS does have a monopoly. But it's almost an internal affair with the justice department when MS is a global player and the world is such a big place.

I always think it amazing that only the US could have created Microsoft and only the US would be so happy about trying to destroy it (I'm not American so I'm not always looking at just the American picture.)
regards
Ian

Karl H. Timmerman M.A.J.D. said:

bob d, I mean no ill will or disrespect. XP has some really neat
features I have played with them. XP is buggy and has some
problems ... which will be fixed. WIN 2K has 90% of the features
...and does not call home. I am curious: are you OK with having
to pay MS a yearly fee, (whatever it may be) for accessing your
computer and having MS verify what you have on your computer, ( to
make sure you are not "pirating" software?). Again ... I mean no
disrespect: just curious.
Warmest Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com

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Good grief , I've just realized what you've been talking about Karl when you go on about XP calling home.

You go: my computer (rtclick)> properties> remote and untick the box that says 'allow remote assistance invitations to be sent from this computer'.
Now it won't call home.
That isn't such a big deal is it?
Ian