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I did get dust spots from time to time with my older (pre Canon dust reduction) cameras also. It didn’t happen frequently and cleaning the sensor was a very small annoyance but an annoyance all the same. Starting with the XTi I have yet seen dust spots on my pictures which is nice.

Greg

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I do enjoy birds and bird photography but haven’t shot in a scene mode yet. You might want to get that twitch checked out by a doctor though, it sounds pretty bad. I do stop down on a regular basis so I don’t believe your argument holds a whole lot of water.

Greg

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Geoff,

I often enjoy looking at the work you post on the forum. I have read in several user reviews that the 17-55 2.8 is excellent but has issues with dust getting inside the front element. I don't know if you typically use filters but you may want to put one on this lens to limit the amount of dust it takes in. I wish I had put one on my sigma 30mm 1.4 as it has gotten a few specks in it (nothing that effects IQ though.) Best of luck.

Regards,
Drew
 
PeaceFrog said:
I do enjoy birds and bird photography but haven’t shot in a scene
mode yet. You might want to get that twitch checked out by a doctor
though, it sounds pretty bad. I do stop down on a regular basis so I
don’t believe your argument holds a whole lot of water.
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I'm willing to bet a LARGE sum of money that if anyone goes and looks at your pbase images, they will wet their pants laughing at you because I am confident they'll find 90-99% (it may even be 100% ) of images are in no way, whatsoever STOPPED DOWN.

Go on, run that program that analyses the EXIF data of all your images and tells you what percentage you shoot at what settings. I dare you.
 
It's a shame its virtual meeting here I could show you the entire pack of 10 pec pads I got through in the nearly 4 years I had a 300D. honest I get more problems with dirt on the Grads than the sensor in my landscapes.

yes dust happens, well did on my 300D. As I said ask me in 6 months about the 40D :-)

But also remember you get airborne contamination. You know that grime you have to wipe of glass and filters. Even if dust is not a problem I wonder if I will still clean it about every quarter for that.

If I had to clean it every week I would be upset. Every quarter, who cares.
 
The 40D has bigger micro lenses than the 400D, so it does have a bit of an advantage at higher ISO, as it gathers more light into the pixel, or so Phil's review claims. No idea how big the advantage is .
 
But some people have said that their 40D is not better, noisewise, then their older 30D and/or 20D cameras? Given that I don't see any difference(at least not that I can see it) between my old 20D and my current 400D, wouldn't this be the case as well for the new 40D?
strawman_John said:
The 40D has bigger micro lenses than the 400D, so it does have a bit
of an advantage at higher ISO, as it gathers more light into the
pixel, or so Phil's review claims. No idea how big the advantage is .
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I agree. If the 40D has the same buildin dust reduction system as does the XTi has(which I have) then it shouldn't be a problem. Have mine since it came out and have yet to clean the sensor.
PeaceFrog said:
For what its worth the Canon dust reduction system has worked great
for me so far. I have taken MANY pictures with the XTi and 40D at
this point and have yet to have to clean the sensor on either camera
manually. As far as my actual experience is concerned the Canon dust
system works quite well at keeping dust spots out of my images.

Greg

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PeaceFrog said:
Yes, of course I post every photo I take on pbase. Nice try wise guy ;)
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I guess not. You only post the better ones there, the ones you want people to see (which happen to be nearly ALL wide aperture). Let me guess .... you don't post the 'other' ones because you see funny grey blobs on the images ... but you haven't worked out what they are yet ;-)

I stand my my challenge on the percentage of wide/not stopped down shots you take.

I'm with Jim on the fascination of why so many Canon users seems to be in this state of denial about the dust. If it didn't exist, Canon wouldn't be trying to do something about it. And I'm one of the most careful lens changers around (and I don't live in a particularly dusty country), I currently use three full frame cameras, did own a 20D and I can tell you that ALL of them needed sensor cleaning now and again ...... unless all you did was shoot wide open when you mostly couldn't see the dust.
 
strawman_John said:
It's a shame its virtual meeting here I could show you the entire
pack of 10 pec pads I got through in the nearly 4 years I had a 300D.
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Yeah, I held a 300D once and if I had one I wouldn't use it much, either :-)
strawman_John said:
If I had to clean it every week I would be upset. Every quarter, who
cares.
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If I had to clean my E-1 every year I would be upset. Every five years, who cares.

Jim
 
but I think it is more complex than that. I think weird things like, say, static from the camera bags cause trouble too.

I work in very dusty condition and I've just stopped worrying with the Oly kit. It is a real pleasure to be able to stand in swirling dust and change lenses without having to be careful (there are quite enough other things to think about).
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You know I had previsouly been at the point of changing systems and getting rid of all my Oly glass and bodies (yes I STILL use the E1 for pro work) but held it out and glad i have.

I've only handled the E3 a couple of times but I like the way it handles and for me I personally don't see a reason to invest in another system when for all my PR/Editorial work the Oly will perfrom superb.

Just remember one thing.... If you plan to use the cameras as a tool, think of the pro level support..I use the cameras in a professional environment and over the last 4 years have used Oly Pro support a few times and be very happy with their help and response - I'm sure Canon don't offer that on their 40D etc just their 1D etc

I'm sure comparing a digital file form both cameras will produce superb results. SO in the end it depends on how the camera feels to you, what level of support you require and your budget. - Both cameras i'm sure will be superb!
Good luck with you choice!

Jules
 
Juleswc said:
Just remember one thing.... If you plan to use the cameras as a tool,
think of the pro level support..I use the cameras in a professional
environment and over the last 4 years have used Oly Pro support a few
times and be very happy with their help and response
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Jules, could you give more details on the UK oly pro support?

I didn't think it existed (in the way that CPS or NPS does) and it was something they were talking about launching at some point as opposed to something that already exists?

TIA

G.
 
Hi Ga,

visit http://www.olympus-pro.com and register your gear and details -
I've registed all my gear (2, E1s, 7-14,14-54,50-200 &fl-50)

If you're a freelance/self employed pro photographer you'll be able to register under their 'Master' program.

I registered around 4 years ago and received a card, magazines, free service ( i think although that was about 2 years ago!!) and superb support, like if your a pro and you gear breaks down they will loan a spare (if they can) generally really helpful and to be honest if you're working in the field it's worth doing!
Got any questions I can email details to you.
Cheers
Jules
 
If you use the comparometer at imaging-resource you'll find the noise difference is just one stop i.e. the 40D at ISO 1600 is as noisy as the E-3 at ISO 3200. However, E-3's IS easily compensates for that. Yes, I know Canon has IS lenses too but would a one stop noise difference make you switch?
 
Louis_Dobson said:
... but the stupid 3:2 aspect ration means you use
the image circle much less well, resulting in a serious weight gain
and quality loss.
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Stupid 3:2 aspect ratio?

That's a new one. Pics in 3:2 look much better than in 4:3. And things in general look better on a wider aspect ratio, or why do you think your next tv will have a 16:9 aspect ratio?

(ok, it's a subjective appreciation... so go tell those subjective hollywood spooks who make all those movies in a wrong aspect ratio!!!)
 
The 400D I tried was noisier at the high ISO end than the 20D. DPREVIEW make comments on it in the 40D review, but I bet it varies camera to camera. My 40D has about the same level of noise as my friends 20D but it produces a slightly sharper and slightly higher resolution image plus there is a bit less colour noise, but that could be due to RAW processing. and is the gap big enough in prints?

If I had a 20D I would hesitate to buy a 40D, if I had a 10D or a 300D like I did then I would say upgrade.

And I did say those were the changes and are they significant? For me the 400D to 40D gap is the service life and the handling, plus live view, but no doubt the 400D replacement will have that. Oh and the focusing upgrade, forgot that. But the 400d costs a lot less, so which is the best buy, who knows.

to really tell you would need same lenses and cameras side by side. Is it worth it. Is life too short.

Also we ought to move this to Canon not Oly :-)
 
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