Man arrested for photographing police activity receives settlement

Except that in the old USSR, the victim would not have received a
settlement from the police and there would have been no equivalent of
the ACLU. It would have been far more likely that the victim would
have physically beaten had he/she tried to complain.

So has the U.S. Government tried to restrict people's rights under
the guise of 9/11? Yes.
This is a freaking oft-repeated left-wing distortion. As is often
asked, name me ONE RIGHT that has been taken away. NAME ONE.
The poster didn't say that rights had been taken away, he stated that
they have tried to restrict rights.
Oh, I see, Mr Magic. So then what rights have been restricted but not taken away? PLEASE educate us.
If you have trouble with the
reading comprehension, take the paragraphs in smaller bites to allow
them to digest better.
I have no problem with reading comprehension. For example, I can read you like a book.
Have local police departments followed
that lead and also tried to limit rights? Yes.
Totally illogical and unprovable. Ergo, a democratic platform position.
But in many,
although certainly not all cases, people have fought back and won.

So in that sense, the U.S. is very much a very free country and will
probably become much more free after the Bush's term ends regardless
of who wins.
Idiotic and non-sensical.
Yes, I agree, your post really was.
You're SOOOO clever.
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If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with
the limes.
I think I know where you put the limes.
 
He is clearly wrong, hampering the police and trying to expose them is evil.
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Windmills, just do it.
 
There is nothing in the posted story that would lead the reader to
believe that the photographer was doing anything wrong to begin with.

If the police ask you to hand over your camera, and you don't,
suddenly you are obstructing justice. Wow. Thats amazing.
If the police ask or tell you to do something and you dont do it, you are subject to arrest. PERIOD. You can scream 'don't tase me bro' all u want. What part of this doesn't your twisted little brain understand?
 
Are you making this stuff up? Where does it say in the story that he hampered anything. He took some pictures, big deal. It also doesn't say that he was "exposing" them. Why should the cops be worried if they have noithing to hide? It was in public and they were doing what police do. We don;t know what the original person was being arrested for, but lets just assume that everything was legitimate (although highly suspect because it sounds like the cops don't know where their own authority actually ends).

Sounds to me like the cops were typical power-tripping authoritarians...the worst kind of cop.
He is clearly wrong, hampering the police and trying to expose them
is evil.
--
Windmills, just do it.
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If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with the limes.
 
These kind of answers are disappointing and frightening. We need people who make a firm stance for old-fashioned values.
--
Windmills, just do it.
 
So you're perfectly fine with it when they "ask" your wife to undress in the alley and then **** her. If she doesn't comply then she'll be arrested.

Sound logic there.

The police are bound by laws just as we are. They can't just stop me on the street for no reason and demand to search me, just because. And, if I decline, I do wish they arrest me...I could use an $8,000 settlement just as much as the next guy.

You're not very clear on the concept of a police state are you? We don't have one of those....yet anyway. Pray it stays that way.

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If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with the limes.
 
You're joking, right? What old fashioned values are you talking about?

I'd like people to make a firm stance against beligerent authoritarians who believe they are above the law.
These kind of answers are disappointing and frightening. We need
people who make a firm stance for old-fashioned values.
--
Windmills, just do it.
--
If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with the limes.
 
As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I think is logical.

I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.
 
There is nothing in the posted story that would lead the reader to
believe that the photographer was doing anything wrong to begin with.

If the police ask you to hand over your camera, and you don't,
suddenly you are obstructing justice. Wow. Thats amazing.
If the police ask or tell you to do something and you dont do it, you
are subject to arrest. PERIOD. You can scream 'don't tase me bro'
all u want. What part of this doesn't your twisted little brain
understand?
Are you saying the Seattle Police Department are wrong to take disciplinary action against these 2 officers for behaving unprofessionally? Seems to me they got it about right.

If this incident proves anything it proves that Americans are able to take photos in a public place without interference. Count yourself lucky to have that right (a lot of the world doesnt) and stop looking for Reds (or Democrats) under the bed.

--
Shay son of Che
 
So you're perfectly fine with it when they "ask" your wife to undress
in the alley and then **** her. If she doesn't comply then she'll be
arrested.
Your wife, fine. So when did this happen? WHat does raping your wife have to do with arresting a photographer?
Sound logic there.
Your logic, not mine.
The police are bound by laws just as we are. They can't just stop me
on the street for no reason and demand to search me, just because.
And, if I decline, I do wish they arrest me...I could use an $8,000
settlement just as much as the next guy.
So then what are you running on about?
You're not very clear on the concept of a police state are you? We
don't have one of those....yet anyway. Pray it stays that way.
You're right. We dont have a police state. NOT EVEN CLOSE. SO what are you blabbing about? One photographer ticked off some cops and then the ACLU got the guy $8000 of the taxpayers' money. You should be happy.
 
Well, that's America.

The ACLU, who got this clown his $8000, is run by perverts and child molesters. Oh, and Communists, but that's sortof redundant.
As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.
 
The ACLU, who got this clown his $8000, is run by perverts and child
molesters. Oh, and Communists, but that's sortof redundant.
As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.
Sounds dramatic, almost as bad as in The Netherlands, so why is this ACLU still operating. There should be a law against this kind of evil organisations.
--
Windmills, just do it.
 
As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.
My goodness me, I am missing this point as well. I am disagreeing with you maybe insofar as is is seeming the officers have acted unwisely, but this person was being most unhelpful in the circumstances. In India he would have been arrested for disturbing the peace and being a public nuisance and a night in the local lock up would have made him aware of his civic responsibilities. Simple justice, but effective.
--
Veejay Chatterjee (Mr)
 
As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.
My goodness me, I am missing this point as well. I am disagreeing
with you maybe insofar as is is seeming the officers have acted
unwisely, but this person was being most unhelpful in the
circumstances. In India he would have been arrested for disturbing
the peace and being a public nuisance and a night in the local lock
up would have made him aware of his civic responsibilities. Simple
justice, but effective.
He was taking photographs. That may be a crime in India, it's not in the U.S. Not all police officers are well grounded in the law. They arrested this person. This person sued for wrongful arrest and won. Now those police officers know better than to make that same mistake again.

Simple justice, but effective.

--
'Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!'

Tom Young
http://www.pbase.com/tyoung/
 
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Yes, I think the Netherlands, from what I've read, is like America if the ACLU had their way. They are FOR ANYTHING. It's called the American Civil Liberties Union. They are a slew of liberal lawyers who sue in support of most any kind of perversion. They interpret the COnstitution to mean than anything anyone can possibly think of doing is protected speech. They regularly SUE to have Christmas items taken down but for some reason, they NEVER sue to have Jewish or Muslim holiday displays removed. They say they're for everyone's liberties, but that's a smoke screen. They pick and choose liberally. For example, they defended a member of NAMBLA in Massachusetts where this homosexual child molester killed a 10 year old boy while acting out his sex fantasies. I guess the 10 yer old didnt have any civil liberties to protect. Same story in Texas when 2 gay men killed a young boy during sex.

The ACLU and CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) are the 2 most dangerous above-ground operations in the USA. Discounting the Democratic party that is.
The ACLU, who got this clown his $8000, is run by perverts and child
molesters. Oh, and Communists, but that's sortof redundant.
As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.
Sounds dramatic, almost as bad as in The Netherlands, so why is this
ACLU still operating. There should be a law against this kind of evil
organisations.
--
Windmills, just do it.
 
Except that in the old USSR, the victim would not have received a
settlement from the police and there would have been no equivalent of
the ACLU. It would have been far more likely that the victim would
have physically beaten had he/she tried to complain.

So has the U.S. Government tried to restrict people's rights under
the guise of 9/11? Yes.
This is a freaking oft-repeated left-wing distortion. As is often
asked, name me ONE RIGHT that has been taken away. NAME ONE.
The poster didn't say that rights had been taken away, he stated that
they have tried to restrict rights.
Oh, I see, Mr Magic. So then what rights have been restricted but
not taken away? PLEASE educate us.
That was never my argument, it was someone elses. You should pay closer attention.
If you have trouble with the
reading comprehension, take the paragraphs in smaller bites to allow
them to digest better.
I have no problem with reading comprehension. For example, I can
read you like a book.
Have local police departments followed
that lead and also tried to limit rights? Yes.
Totally illogical and unprovable. Ergo, a democratic platform position.
But in many,
although certainly not all cases, people have fought back and won.

So in that sense, the U.S. is very much a very free country and will
probably become much more free after the Bush's term ends regardless
of who wins.
Idiotic and non-sensical.
Yes, I agree, your post really was.
You're SOOOO clever.
--
If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with
the limes.
I think I know where you put the limes.
--
If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with the limes.
 
Keep posting...you are making this thread highly entertaining with your outlandish statements.
Yes, I think the Netherlands, from what I've read, is like America if
the ACLU had their way. They are FOR ANYTHING. It's called the
American Civil Liberties Union. They are a slew of liberal lawyers
who sue in support of most any kind of perversion. They interpret the
COnstitution to mean than anything anyone can possibly think of doing
is protected speech. They regularly SUE to have Christmas items taken
down but for some reason, they NEVER sue to have Jewish or Muslim
holiday displays removed. They say they're for everyone's liberties,
but that's a smoke screen. They pick and choose liberally. For
example, they defended a member of NAMBLA in Massachusetts where this
homosexual child molester killed a 10 year old boy while acting out
his sex fantasies. I guess the 10 yer old didnt have any civil
liberties to protect. Same story in Texas when 2 gay men killed a
young boy during sex.

The ACLU and CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) are the 2
most dangerous above-ground operations in the USA. Discounting the
Democratic party that is.
The ACLU, who got this clown his $8000, is run by perverts and child
molesters. Oh, and Communists, but that's sortof redundant.
As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.
Sounds dramatic, almost as bad as in The Netherlands, so why is this
ACLU still operating. There should be a law against this kind of evil
organisations.
--
Windmills, just do it.
--
If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with the limes.
 
Heard on the radio how Michael Savage (fantastic radiohost) was almost deprived of his civil liberties. They tried to make him shut up, why do the good ones have to suffer.
--
Windmills, just do it.
 
Heard on the radio how Michael Savage (fantastic radiohost) was
almost deprived of his civil liberties. They tried to make him shut
up, why do the good ones have to suffer.
Lot's of people would be happy if Michael Savage shut up. If even for a minute or two. Don't worry though, his civil liberties remain (and will remain) fully intact. No actions have been taken by anyone, including the San Francisco City Council that would threaten his right to freedom of speech in any way shape or form.

--
'Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!'

Tom Young
http://www.pbase.com/tyoung/
 

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