Why all this "What to use in Europe?"

That's my point - there's quite a difference between America and New York as is the case for e.g. Europe and Tuscany or Warsaw

drthomas said:

maybe they just want to boast that they are "going to Europe"

And, you also see posts from Europeans, saying 'going to New York'
etc

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Good point!

JohnHBailey said:

If he wasn't looking for an argument he wouldn't be using 7Cantona as
a handle )

Must change mine to "5Terry" and see how seriously I am taken
afterwards.....

John
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You don't have that in the US?

My point is that the different countries and even cities in Europe are different and it seems some believe it's all the same

salosd said:

You might need to travel Europe cities like Rome or Paris for example
to understand, narrow streets, lots of people, lot to shot at night
and day or low lights. People need to know what to bring, also some
tips.

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While something's different I'd argue that some things are quite similar wouldn't you?

It's matter of "generally speaking" that in Europe we have more cafés, street life etc where you in the US have more open spaces?

AmorousLight said:

Because Europe lacks the expanse of the US in many cases. The
smaller cities, villiages mean a differnt style of making pictures.
Europe means much more cafe/pub life, street life, many many more
monuments, museums, walking, lots of walking, less car travel...it is
the walking that makes lots of the differences.

I assue you that shooting in Rome is very different then shooting in
Bakersfield, California. Different style, different lenses,
different types of subjects.

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7Cantona said:

You don't have that in the US?

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Where? Near to me (NJ) only Princeton is simehow looks like Europe city.
I told you travel Europe and you will see. Do you know where it is? )

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When I went to China, I took my 100-400...what a waste of luggage.

The smog over there is so bad, that I needed to get up close to everything to get a clean(smog free) shot.

It doesn't hurt to ask for advice.

Yes to Grand Canyon, Empire State and San-Fran Bay area. For truly grand vistas I stitch panoramas to get very good resolution that you cannot get by just putting a wide angle lens on the camera. For the European city scenes this is not really feasible, although I have done some panoramas (around Salzburg and Edinburgh for instance). In narrow streets and museums you do not really want to do panoramas but need the wide angle lens. For grand vistas panoramas with a less wide lens work better.

steve1984 said:

Paul De Bra said:

7Cantona said:

I'm just a bit puzzled with some of the questions about "what lens
should I use in Europe" and was wondering if some could help me
understand.

Why would it be different to USA, or for that matter different states
in the US? Furthermore when asking "what lens should I use in Europe"
it sounds to me like people believe Europe is all the same.

To me it's a question about what you want to take pictures of and not
if it's in Europe, USA or Africa.
Am I missing the point?

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MirkoK said:

what lens should i take to the spetznaz concert on saturday?

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The one which best fits your costume ;-)

The skies are cloudy and grey (bring fast lenses), lots of charcoal dust in the air (requires weather-sealed bodies), very moisty and soggy ground (requires good hiking boots) and people that speak by making funny sounds (learn to communicate in body-language).

Boil the drinking water whilst here, bring cutlery (we eat with our hands), bring your own soap and cloth that is easy to clean or does not require washing as the queues to the rivers here are long.

Oh yes, bring lots of chocolate as we respond well when given sugar.

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...you forgot the lack of toilet paper! ;-) Just kidding ;-)

Seriously, I love the continent, and I try to get over the pond often. Wonderful people, places, sites, smells, tastes, awesome....but I could never live there....too much of the Nanny State for my sensabilities ;-) Sky high taxes, high unemployment, high cost of living...not a wonder Sigma/Tamron sale more there then here. Well, I guess once Hillary is elected here, the US will not be much different...

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AmorousLight said:

Sky high taxes,

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because we have free health system??? not like U.S. where they leave poor people to die because they can't afford health insurance ("only" about 27 mil. americans that is). By the way U.S. goverment doesn't even cure the 9/11 rescuers anymore - too expensive - might as well dump them know that they're full of cancer right?

AmorousLight said:

high unemployment, high cost of living

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I don't know what you're talking about but the average unemployment in E.U is 4-5% or less..not much different than U.S. and the unemployed "still" get health care for free and about 500-600€ / month from the goverment!!! Pls cut the c* p. I've been to U.S. (west coast) and i've seen more homeless people in 1 day than my entire life in Europe! I mean they're like a whole army! sometimes parks during the morning were so filled with hobos that you almost couldn't see the grass underneath. And i'm not talking about ghettos here...I was in downtown. I have never seen so many homeless people in my life...they're agressive too. That's why Europe is so expensive...because we share our wealth more than keep it to myself like in U.S. Different cultures...you might not like it but it's not worst than U.S. it's just different

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but shooting in San Francisco, California is not very different from shooting in Rome

AmorousLight said:

Because Europe lacks the expanse of the US in many cases. The
smaller cities, villiages mean a differnt style of making pictures.
Europe means much more cafe/pub life, street life, many many more
monuments, museums, walking, lots of walking, less car travel...it is
the walking that makes lots of the differences.

I assue you that shooting in Rome is very different then shooting in
Bakersfield, California. Different style, different lenses,
different types of subjects.

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In my case I wanted to know what gear to take to London. Why would I ask such a question? Because I'd never been there (or anywhere similar).

I didn't know how close I could get to things during tours (left the 70-200 F4 at home - no regrets) or whether photography was allowed in churches (not the two I visited) or whether a prime would be useful in museums (I think my 17-85 IS would have got the job done but it was raining that day so I left the DSLR at the hotel). The thread got off on some interesting side discussions about places to see, the best way to get about etc. I got great feedback and put much of it to use.

If you're curious, I just took my 40D & 17-85, a minidv camcorder and my old Canon S50 P&S. I found this a bit heavy as the day worn on (we were usually away form the hotel for about 10 to 12 hours straight). I ended up leaving the camcorder at the hotel most days. We did have a great trip!

I do understand where you are coming from and it does largely come down to what type of pictures you like to take. Think of these threads as conversation "ice breakers" that often get some great input from the "locals" due to dpreview being such a great internationally used forum!

Cheers!

Hence I know where it is

...I think

Generalisation, but yes I'd think so

I've traveled to a lot of places. The question is not about limitations in luggage or whatnot - it's a question of people believing Europe is all the same.

Why not mention where they're going (country/city/cities) and what their trip will be about (e.g. hiking or churches or whatever)?

There are some differences: In the Europe, you'll need a macro lens for everything, because compared to America, everything is so small. For Asia, you'll need a macro lens plus extensions, because everything, especially people, is even more small. In Australia, you'll need an Olympus, because there is so much dust and dirt. In Africa, there's the same, but you better put black tape over all logos, otherwise it'll get stolen. And if you resist, they'll capture you and roast you on a spit - alive. Those barbarous ba* ards. In the Antarctica, you better use anything different than Canon and Leica M8, because, as Michael Reichmann demonstrated, both are useless there. Nikons are fine, though. Use heavy pro level Nikons, to defend yourself against rampant ice bears and pinguins. For America, you'll need a shiny camera with live view and a wideangle lens. People are all show-off there, so they'll laugh at you if your cam isn't milled from pure gold. Swarovski crystal gemmed neckstraps are all the rage now, but make sure, it's done on both sides. Of course, you shouldn't wear your camera around your neck, then. At the same time, Americans are so stupid, that if you ask a stranger to take a picture of you, he'll fail if he has to use the viewfinder. Hence the liveview, so that he can hold the camera a proper armlength away from his face. Wideangle is a no-brainer, as everything is so big. Buildings, cars, fridges, people, especially their butts. I once had to buy a wideangle, because I lost some street candid from 200 meters away without a proper wideangle. Make sure this won't happen to you. The 14-24mm Nikkor will do just fine, but you should really mount it on a D3, otherwise you're doomed again. Tip: Get yourself a pimped version like those that have been around here in the forums lately. Goldfinger version is the best, of course. If you're nice to the dealer, he'll make the lens mount from diamond, instead of ordinary brass.

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AmorousLight said:

I assue you that shooting in Rome is very different then shooting in
Bakersfield, California.

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Hey, not to brag, but I've visited 119 countries (yep, I keep notes) and can assure you that many parts of Europe are a lot like Bakersfield...
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And I know difference if you don't ...

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