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Considering the 1.6 factor with the D60, what do you actually see when you look through the view finder? Is what you see, pretty much what you'll get or do you have to mentally allow for the increase?

Grrrr. If I had one, I'd know for myself by now!

ML
 
MLamb,

What you see is what you get. The viewfinder shows the same 1.6 cropped image that will be sent to the CMOS.
Steve
MLamb said:
Considering the 1.6 factor with the D60, what do you actually see
when you look through the view finder? Is what you see, pretty much
what you'll get or do you have to mentally allow for the increase?

Grrrr. If I had one, I'd know for myself by now!

ML
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Wow! I hope yours comes soon or you will go completely nuts... Rest assured that what you see is what you get. You'll love it.

Rich
MLamb said:
Considering the 1.6 factor with the D60, what do you actually see
when you look through the view finder? Is what you see, pretty much
what you'll get or do you have to mentally allow for the increase?

Grrrr. If I had one, I'd know for myself by now!

ML
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What did you expect to see ???? Naked women.

Robus
MLamb said:
Considering the 1.6 factor with the D60, what do you actually see
when you look through the view finder? Is what you see, pretty much
what you'll get or do you have to mentally allow for the increase?

Grrrr. If I had one, I'd know for myself by now!

ML
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--Robus
 
Nope, sorry, but you get a little more than what you see.

Consider it a safety buffer, but there is more picture in the picture than what you see in the finder. In doing product shots I have to make sure the WHOLE product is in the frame. On one occurance it went right to the edge of the frame. In the actual shot though, there was more room around the edges than what I had framed.

Pete
 
I'm more than looking forward to loving it. As for as going completely nuts, there are those who'd ... Never mind!

Thanks for humoring me. I'll try to behave. :>

ML
RichW said:
Rich
MLamb said:
Considering the 1.6 factor with the D60, what do you actually see
when you look through the view finder? Is what you see, pretty much
what you'll get or do you have to mentally allow for the increase?

Grrrr. If I had one, I'd know for myself by now!

ML
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OK. That's helpful. Since I work mainly for web use, I should still get what I need and I can crop the excess. Better than the other way around I should think.

Hmm. But your comment's well taken. I've sometimes cut my margins pretty close when shooting product so that work out OK. Thanks for the tip.

Obviously I'll need to wander around shooting everything in site to get used to it anyway.

Thanks for helping.

ML
Peter Gregg said:
Nope, sorry, but you get a little more than what you see.

Consider it a safety buffer, but there is more picture in the
picture than what you see in the finder. In doing product shots I
have to make sure the WHOLE product is in the frame. On one
occurance it went right to the edge of the frame. In the actual
shot though, there was more room around the edges than what I had
framed.

Pete
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This is true for almost all non-professional SLR bodies. Very few SLR or DSLR bodies have 100% viewfinder coverage. However, the "pro" bodies do. The 1D is the only Canon DSLR to offer 100% horizontal and vertical viewfinder coverage.

I have owned several SLR bodies (both film and digital), and I have never had 100% viewfinder coverage (BTW, I currently have a D30). However, I read the viewfinder specs before I bought my bodies, so I didn't have that expectation.--Steven Donahue
 
...is to move your eye around the viewfinder looking at the edges*, as there's definitely some paralax. I don't know if you can see to '100%', but you definitely see more.
  • rather difficult to do handheld :-)--I love my D60!
 
wmcdowell said:
thats my only problem with the d30, sometimes miss the compostion
i am after because the view finder crops the image some.
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This problem isn't specific to the d30 or d60. You'll have it with ANY camera, film or digital, except for the most expensive pro-bodies (Canon's 1V film and 1D digital bodies are two examples).

Any composition you "miss" should be relatively easy to fix with some minimal cropping in Photoshop after the fact.

In any case, you're better off with a D30/D60 than the viewfinder in any point and shoot, which in addition to cropping even more of the image, is often slightly tilted and suffers from parallax.

By the way, unless you do your own printing, film tends to be even more hit or miss for composition. I don't know how many times I've taken film in for enlargments only to have them crop out something I really wanted in there... I always ask them to print the WHOLE frame, with a 5mm or so border around the outside of the print if need be, but without spending a fortune, none of your average labs will comply with this simple request.

Bottom of the line is that the viewfinder in the D30/D60 is at least as accurate as that in all but the most prohibitively expensive cameras, and the fact that you have complete control over the image in Photoshop means that composition is much easier on these cameras than on most anything the average amateur may have had access to prior to buying one.

--Keith
 
Keith Lommel said:
By the way, unless you do your own printing, film tends to be even
more hit or miss for composition. I don't know how many times I've
taken film in for enlargments only to have them crop out something
I really wanted in there... I always ask them to print the WHOLE
frame, with a 5mm or so border around the outside of the print if
need be, but without spending a fortune, none of your average labs
will comply with this simple request.
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You are so right! Can't tell you the number of times I've found negs that were cropped in the printing without, of course, any regard for logic or composition. Good point.
Keith Lommel said:
Bottom of the line is that the viewfinder in the D30/D60 is at
least as accurate as that in all but the most prohibitively
expensive cameras, and the fact that you have complete control over
the image in Photoshop means that composition is much easier on
these cameras than on most anything the average amateur may have
had access to prior to buying one.

--Keith
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Thanks for a clear, logical analogy.

ML
 
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