Why the stupid rule of no camera's at Huskies football games??

mike bustad

Forum Pro
Messages
10,220
Reaction score
1
Location
Tulalip, WA, US
--This saturday my young grandson gets to play in the Washington Huskies stadium before the Huskie game. I was told yesterday no camera's in the stadium unless your the team photographer. Lucky for me the team will let me be the team photographer so I can shoot the game. But what a bunch a crock this is I mean I see in the forums all the time people shooting college ball. Are the Huskies that petty?

Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
 
Wow, I did not know that about Husky Stadium. If it was me, I'd just smuggle it in under my jacket. I don't believe they do pat downs at that stadium.

What a lame rule. I pack my 20D + 70-200 IS into Safeco Field all the time with nary a peep from security.
--This saturday my young grandson gets to play in the Washington
Huskies stadium before the Huskie game. I was told yesterday no
camera's in the stadium unless your the team photographer. Lucky for
me the team will let me be the team photographer so I can shoot the
game. But what a bunch a crock this is I mean I see in the forums all
the time people shooting college ball. Are the Huskies that petty?

Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
 
--My long lenses are white and show up like a sore thumb LOL but being the team photographer I will not have to worry. But I am wondering if I can still take photo's when the Huskies are playing? I mean why go to a game if you can't even take a stinking picture? I got this from one of the people handling the little league team playing at the stadium.

Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
 
You can not take a camera into a shopping mall as well or take pictures in an airport.

If you are old enough to remember Maxwell Smart, his shoe phone would be in big trouble now days.
 
I am a rank armature but did attend a PhotoShop CS3 seminar Atlanta. At this gathering I met several pros good enough to let me ask about getting started in youth sports.

Not being a rose garden It sounds like you have encountered some of the carnivorous pro actions I heard about. There was a "what to look out for" discussion including anything from players suing because they run into your rig, and the type of insurance needed.
There will be agreements with teams or stadiums and such.
Or there is a flash problem.

Or a non-pro person(s) have acted in an unruly manner and ruined it for the masses.

The best way to get a possible foot in the door is to go to the powers that be and make a gentle inquiry. Don't be wearing any gear to instill any fear you may shoot him for a disgruntled interview.

If you put forth the efforts please let us know.

--
Thanks, 2therock
 
If that's the case, it's not consistent. I've never heard Homeland Security used as an excuse for denying a paying customer access to a venue just because he has a camera.

Again, I can get into Safeco Field, Qwest Field and Key Arena in the Seattle area, with my 20D and 70-200 2.8 rig, with no problems. I did, however, contact the teams prior to make sure it was okay.

I think the main reason some places don't allow so-called "professional" looking cameras is due to the possibility somebody may make money off the pics, which seems unlikely to me in most cases.
You can not take a camera into a shopping mall as well or take
pictures in an airport.

If you are old enough to remember Maxwell Smart, his shoe phone would
be in big trouble now days.
 
Again, I can get into Safeco Field, Qwest Field and Key Arena in the
Seattle area, with my 20D and 70-200 2.8 rig, with no problems. I
did, however, contact the teams prior to make sure it was okay.

I think the main reason some places don't allow so-called
"professional" looking cameras is due to the possibility somebody may
make money off the pics, which seems unlikely to me in most cases.
You can not take a camera into a shopping mall as well or take
pictures in an airport.

If you are old enough to remember Maxwell Smart, his shoe phone would
be in big trouble now days.
--Thanks I have wondered about the Mariners if I make it to another game I would love to take my gear. I will call first to check on this

Thanks
Mike

Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
 
i have had no problems taking my 135L into the Meadowlands to shoot the NJ Nets. I called ahead to check once and they said that the big, white lenses were not allowed. Seemed like a reasonable enough policy.

Mike
----
http://www.mllpix.com
 
You can not take a camera into a shopping mall as well or take
pictures in an airport.

If you are old enough to remember Maxwell Smart, his shoe phone would
be in big trouble now days.
Since when? I've done both, but especially in airports while waiting for flights.
--
Regards,

Dean
 
Your not alone.

Was up in Pittsburgh this past weekend to visit my daughter and went to Heinz field Saturday to see the Pitt home coming game. Before going I did all kinds of research to find out the stadium restrictions and found the same list on both the Pitt and Steelers website. Video cameras are prohibited but small camera bags were allowed so I assume at least P&S cameras are allowed. I also called the box office but could get past a recording to talk to a real person to verify anything. So I figured I'd take chance and take the camera, 1DM3 and 70-200, and my small belt pouch with my CF cards etc (the same set of equipment I’ve taken into other venues.) Well you can guess the rest. I wasn't allowed in and ironically I was stopped after the initial pat down (more on that below) and argued with the security guy right under the sign that listed prohibited items. I asked him to show me anything about still cameras of any kind and he pointed to the video camera item and said, "I'm a photographer too and I know that camera can take moving pictures." I couldn't help myself and just let out a huge laugh. No amount of reason was going to convince this guy otherwise so I just gave up and put the camera back in the car.

More on Heinz Field. (OT rant read at your own risk)

I find their security process very invasive although unfortunately I'm sure it’s the same in other places. You can not take in any bags other then 8" purses for the ladies and small camera bags. To get into the stadium you need to get into separate boys and girls lines and submit to a full body pat down and I'm talking FULL body, arms, torso, legs, feet and crotch. The KIDS doing the pat downs are just that… kids. I doubt some would know the difference between the feel of contraband and certain body parts. Heck here in DC I can get into RFK stadium with a back pack full of camera equipment (or other less innocuous item) with little more then a casual look into the bag and certainly without the full body cavity search. You’d think that since RFK is only blocks away form the Capital of the United States, security would be heavier here then there.

And yes I know the idea is to protect the 30 to 70+ thousand people who go to a game but c’mon full body pat downs? We really need to get over this paranoia. (OT rant over)

BTW the game was great. Pitt beat Cincinnati. Our seats were fabulous. Had been able to bring in the camera I’m sure I could have made some killer photographs.
--



Rob Kircher
My Stuff: http://www.pbase.com/rkircher
 
RFK stadium here in DC has listed right on the websites. Cameras of all kinds allowed except video. No lenses longer then 8". Both the 70-200 and 100-400 are shorter then 8" (well the 100-400 is at 100mm ;-) I've taken them both into the stadium for National games along with my 1D Mark III.
--



Rob Kircher
My Stuff: http://www.pbase.com/rkircher
 
All these things factor into the decision for a given venue.

Copyright: NCAA Div I and pro players have their image copyrighted by the organizations. You can't take a snap of one of those players and sell the image (except for news purposes). Similarly with video - you can't shoot video often because it violates copyright.

Money: Look they want to make money off the images. For people that want quality photos of athletes they want you buying merchandise where they get a piece of the pie.

cramped quarters: we're talking about being in the stands here, not on the sidelines for pro venues. The last thing I want in the stands is someone behind me with a 400mm 5.6 lens smacking me in the head.

Very often many venues will have a policy limiting the lens size allowed in. This allows the casual fan to take a snap and be happy but none of the above 3 problems come into play (you're not going to get a sellable image or even a close up and a 5" lens isn't likely to interfere with the people around you).

This policy is the most common I've seen. Of course, policy is one thing - then you add very low paid ushers/security into the mix and they have their own interpretation of the policy. If you run into one of these individuals you're likely out of luck.

Having said all that I've found baseball is the most forgiving and camera friendly of the pro sports. For college sports depending on the stadium and your seating it's almost not worth it anyways. Most major college stadiums have seating that sweeps back so you're pretty far from the action. Unless you've got a 1200mm lens or sitting front row you're not going to get many shots.
 
That seems like a fair reading.

I know that at UT cameras are allowed but not big lenses nor video. The video is because they sell the rights. The large lenses are more for the reason you stated, not to interfere with other fans than to keep good photos from being taken. Camera pat downs are normal as alcohol is prohibited as are drugs even though they make it into the stadium.

To the OP. Normally fans go to a game to see the game, not to photograph it. I'm sure if you call the huskies athletic office during the week you will get the run around, but the alumni association should be able to answer your questions.
All these things factor into the decision for a given venue.

Copyright: NCAA Div I and pro players have their image copyrighted
by the organizations. You can't take a snap of one of those players
and sell the image (except for news purposes). Similarly with video
  • you can't shoot video often because it violates copyright.
Money: Look they want to make money off the images. For people that
want quality photos of athletes they want you buying merchandise
where they get a piece of the pie.

cramped quarters: we're talking about being in the stands here, not
on the sidelines for pro venues. The last thing I want in the stands
is someone behind me with a 400mm 5.6 lens smacking me in the head.

Very often many venues will have a policy limiting the lens size
allowed in. This allows the casual fan to take a snap and be happy
but none of the above 3 problems come into play (you're not going to
get a sellable image or even a close up and a 5" lens isn't likely to
interfere with the people around you).
This policy is the most common I've seen. Of course, policy is one
thing - then you add very low paid ushers/security into the mix and
they have their own interpretation of the policy. If you run into
one of these individuals you're likely out of luck.

Having said all that I've found baseball is the most forgiving and
camera friendly of the pro sports. For college sports depending on
the stadium and your seating it's almost not worth it anyways. Most
major college stadiums have seating that sweeps back so you're pretty
far from the action. Unless you've got a 1200mm lens or sitting
front row you're not going to get many shots.
 
...we went to a Steeler pre-season game, and the security did exactly what you described to my friend (a pro photog, but wasn't wearing his credentials to that event, just wanted to relax)......security eventually pointed him to a city cop, who said "I guess they won't let you in."

He even went over to that big sign and pointed to the line....eventually, security found a guy with a "book of rules" who pointed to some vague line about "professional-looking equipment." He had to take his camera back to the car.

....while he was being messed with, I breezed in with my belt bag carrying my S3 IS.

I captured about 20 pics from the stands that we both agree are pretty darn close to what he would have shot from the field if he was working the game.

So, after he got over being 'heated up' over security's stupidity, we both had a good laugh over the fact that they are so clueless that the S3 (and undoubtably other super zooms) can outperform what the vast majority of the newbie DSLR shooters want to bring in the stadium but are turned away!
--
scott b.
http://www.countryshots.com

Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click the shutter. Ansel Adams
 
I am friendly with the local HS football coach. But when I asked about trying out my 40D with a football game, he said that he was sorry to say that the school had agreements with the two local newspapers that no one got on the field except their photographers. Bummer. I didn't want to make any money or compete, just to see how I could do with my new camera. So I had to be happy shooting little kids football in the afternoon just for fun.
--
Juli
http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries

Canon FiveDee, Canon 4oD, Canon Gee 9, Canon S7o, Fuji Eff3o, Canon Ess Three IS.

 
Similar rules at Oklahoma State, but a little more lax. Nothing with a detachable lens. Given that the NFL is so tightly marketed, it's strange to me that they are looser in this regard than a lot of college sites.
 
Per the Stadium's website:

http://www.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/wash/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/07-day-of-game-guide

CAMERAS AND CAMCORDERS

Cameras are allowed in Husky Stadium, however camcorders are not permitted within the stadium. Tripods are also not allowed in Husky Stadium.
--This saturday my young grandson gets to play in the Washington
Huskies stadium before the Huskie game. I was told yesterday no
camera's in the stadium unless your the team photographer. Lucky for
me the team will let me be the team photographer so I can shoot the
game. But what a bunch a crock this is I mean I see in the forums all
the time people shooting college ball. Are the Huskies that petty?

Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
 
Snip>

I mean why go to a game if you can't even take a stinking picture?

Uh? - to watch the games???
--
Jim F
 
I'm not so much disappointed with not being allowed to bring the camera in as much as it was imposable to find out for sure until I got there. With the proliferation of inexpensive DSLRs I think it’s about time more explicit rules and regulations are posted. As I said before RFK explicitly lists lenses 8” and under are allowed.

As to P&S shots you're absolutely correct. From where we were sitting I know for sure I could have snapped a few newspaper quality images in the 4 hour time frame of the game. Of course my keeper rate would be way low but none the less I'm sure I could have snapped a few money shots had I been interested in profiting on my photographs.

I checked the UofM website and interestingly enough Byrd Stadium’s list of prohibited items is very similar to Heinz Field.

See mid way down the page
http://umterps.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091003aaa.html

The item I find interesting is video cell phones… No how the heck is the security people going to know you cell phone can do video? Posted the restriction just makes it easier for them to toss you out if you caught using it but by that time the damage is done.

(Rant again)

Lastly, I go back to the full body search before entering. I’ve been to a lot of stadiums for a lot of events and I’ve never had my crotch searched for contraband let alone have to get into single sex lines to submit to this search as if having women search women and men search men some how makes it the process better. I think the folks at Heinz Field have gone way over the top with this “post 911” security. One would hope that all this nonsense will eventually pass. Unfortunately, it will stick around for as long as the regular goers are willing to submit to the insanity. And don’t give me any crud about changing times. We’re the ones who have allowed these changes by allowing such silly things to be imposed upon us. Ironically the exact intent of the terrorist we are supposedly fighting against. (rant off)

--



Rob Kircher
My Stuff: http://www.pbase.com/rkircher
 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top