Splitting up S&G - suggestions please

  • Thread starter Thread starter Phil Askey
  • Start date Start date
Phil,

I spend as much time here as anyone, and I also have experienced the same inconveniences lately with all the traffic. I go along with the people who would rather not see this forum split up into too many categories, if we even have to have categories. I've seen at least one other website whose forums experienced a drop in participation and enthusiasm after imposing numerous categories.

The categories you have below are actually not bad, as they are rather broad...I suspect that most posts would still fall into the "General" category. And though I've never spent much time participating in "Challenges", I like what some of the other camera-specific forums have done with the idea. "Techniques" would be good for more of the digital art and images with heavy digital manipulation...but there don't seem too many people posting in that category. Then again, the talented few that do don't get many responses and quickly move off the first page...maybe if they had their own stage (like Robert Conn2), then they would be more noticed.

But what makes this forum special for me is the diversity of contributions, and the ability to find value and learn something from a still life, as well as a landscape, street photograph, or portrait, even if one does nothing but photograph flowers or family. That would really be lost by splitting up photos into categories.

There seem to be a couple of things that are moving posts very quickly to the second page and beyond....one is obviously the sheer number of people. But the other is frequent posts by new people who don't know any better, as well as occasionally by regulars (I'm guilty at times, though I try to police myself). Perhaps an informal limit of one post every 48 to 72 hours would keep things down (one post every 24 hours isn't enough to keep traffic down, IMO). It seems like at least once a week, a new or infrequent poster comes on and posts four or more images in a 12 hour period...this ends up being noise that disrupts the forum that could be addressed more directly.

As with everything else, I'd rather not see any rules or categories become too rigid or formal...I'd rather see the community police itself as much as possible. Less work for you, Phil, and more of a sense of participation on everyone else's part to keep the community running smoothly.

Thanks for listening,

Robert
Hi,

It's clear that S&G is getting too busy for most to keep up, I'd
like to hear your ideas for creating possibly two additional
forums, something along the lines:

Galleries: General
Galleries: Challenges
Galleries: Techniques

Let me know your thoughts...
 
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period. This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
 
Now your thinking!
Larry
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number
of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one
thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period.
This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more
pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
 
Separating challenges good idea. Once in 24 hours good idea. 800 pixels wide is critical to get me back to this forum.

MAC
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number
of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one
thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period.
This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more
pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
 
I still think there should be a forum for people who want critques and suggests and one for those who aren't interested in those things. A lot of people are darn right hostile if you make a comment about their work and others really want help with bad pictures, but don't want to post them because they the pictures are bad.
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number
of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one
thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period.
This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more
pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
 
IMO we still need a sample gallery, for so many people are proud of their camera and would like to invite everybody to take a look at what quality his camery can make.
--Gilbert
 
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number
of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one
thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period.
This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more
pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
Yes, Yes, Yes,

thats the way to go - limit to one new thread a day - unlimited replys to sombody elses thread - and a separate challenges forum.--SteveZurich, SwitzerlandFuji 4900Z & MX 2700www.pbase.com/steveh
 
Great idea! IMHO. I'm fairly new to the S&G forum, but this seems like the best all-around solution. And I especially like the idea of a Photo Challenges forum.
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number
of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one
thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period.
This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more
pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
--Faye
 
Phil,

First, I really appreciate your asking for our input on this matter.

I tend to agree that limiting people's ability to create new threads on S&G is a good idea. I've seen as many as 6 posts by a single person on the front page, and that makes it difficult for others to get noticed.

I like the idea of a "Challenges Forum," too.

I personally don't like the idea of splitting the forum up by subject matter. The diversity here is a great part of what I like about the forum, and having to search several different forums would just take more time, in my opinion. I like to see good photography, regardless of the subject matter. I must admit, too, that I think I would have trouble deciding just what category some of my pictures would fit in :-)

If you could make the display 800 pixels wide I would be very happy.

Thank you,

Adrienne

--www.naturalsights.com
 
I'm open to such a split. Splitting out challenges seems a very obvious idea. I'm not sure how I would know what to post in techniques vs. general. I particulary like nature photography and could see a separate group for something like that. That way those of us who enjoy it would know where to find it, but those who have seen enough bird pics (how is that possible ;) ? ) would be able to concentrate on other things.
Hi,

It's clear that S&G is getting too busy for most to keep up, I'd
like to hear your ideas for creating possibly two additional
forums, something along the lines:

Galleries: General
Galleries: Challenges
Galleries: Techniques

Let me know your thoughts...
--Jackie http://homepage.mac.com/jackiewollner/PhotoAlbum1
 
Hi Phil,

I don't think the postings are about 'techniques', maybe some times about 'challenges', well I think the subjects of the posted photographs isn't the real problem, most are about 'do you like or dislike my view'.

I think there can be a forum about 'techniques', but that part is taken care of in the different camera forums already, but well I think it would be nice, also to the different camera forums as 'general techniques' would have it's own forum. But it will be a quite forum, well I think.

'Challenges' ok , make it a different forum and aske people in other forums as well to join this new 'challenge' forum and forget about their camera related challenges.

To get S&G a bit more in a way we could pay attention to all contributions would be, we just post twice a week a thread, in which we can embed a photograph, or even two or a link to our new album. It would bring the number of new threads down, without embedding the posters in a narrow street, as they still can show what they want, without causing kind of traffic jam.

JUdy pointed, she doesn't like the rreplies on all comments, but well I think these replies are just 'decent' as the other, the one who commented, did take some time, to give a signal, and it's just polite and decent to reply. Also in those cases one is in doubt about the meaning of the comment, as in 'nicely done', 'great shot', 'nicely framed'.

Well I do have my doubts about these comments too, but not all will have the will and ability to explain why they liked to have watched the photograph.

So in short: as we all would be willing to just make two postings in a week, everything would be fine even with the big number of posters we do have these days,

jacques.

--jacques
 
Hi,

It's clear that S&G is getting too busy for most to keep up, I'd
like to hear your ideas for creating possibly two additional
forums, something along the lines:

Galleries: General
Galleries: Challenges
Galleries: Techniques

Let me know your thoughts...
One way to do it is:

Galleries: Nature
Galleries: Objects
Galleries: People

I think every picture fits into at least one of these galleries and there is about 1/3 to every group (roughly - probably close to 50% to nature).

Regards,
Anders-- http://www.pbase.com/dna
 
Limiting and challenges sounds great, but......

It's just my observation, but there are a lot of posters who may not even respond when given critique or high fives. I think they just want to share and aren't interested in talking about it. Maybe call it the Sharing Forum and it would be understood (or not even allow) there would be no follow ups.
Hope I'm not off base.
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number
of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one
thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period.
This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more
pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
--Jimmy Bwww.pbase.com/jimmybru/galleriesNon-digital again, N90, Yashicamat G, Nikon Lite Touch 120zoom
 
Hi Phill

I can't say I see a real need for splittig the gallery. More so I think that spliting it will hurt some of its prime artistic and educational purposes. Somewhere in the llist you came up with an idea of limiting the posting one every 24 hours. This is a good one. I am trying not to have two posting active at the same time just because I understanf the problem - maybe if itwas steressed out like you do here more people will act vouluntarily as I do. I have learnedabout it from Hugh and Larry but I know there are several of us ddoing the same.

Ruvy

p.s.

creating a challangin forum is a good idea but it does need a moderator who will bring up photographic subject - just as isthe case in photography school... Idon't think it will sove any overload problem in forum
Hi,

It's clear that S&G is getting too busy for most to keep up, I'd
like to hear your ideas for creating possibly two additional
forums, something along the lines:

Galleries: General
Galleries: Challenges
Galleries: Techniques

Let me know your thoughts...
--Ruvy
 
Hi Phil,

Maybe one for Critique? This seems to be a place primarily for sharing work but I don't always know if people really want a critique on it.

Jim
Hi,

It's clear that S&G is getting too busy for most to keep up, I'd
like to hear your ideas for creating possibly two additional
forums, something along the lines:

Galleries: General
Galleries: Challenges
Galleries: Techniques

Let me know your thoughts...
--Jim FuglestadWhy simply live and let live? Live and help live. http://www.pbase.com/jfuglestad/galleries
 
Dear Phil:
I know that it is much to request.

But it is only a desire: The possibility of a section in Spanish. For me it is easy to read, but very difficult to write in English.

Perhaps for that reason, I seem a unpleasant person that only post photos and I do not make commentaries of those of the others, that always I am observing because there are very interesting things.
Thanks
(translated with "Altavista" :))--Martín Crespo http://latinphotography.com/
 
You've got my vote!
Thanks Robert.

Seems to me quite a few people are in favour of limiting the number
of posts people can make (just this forum).

How about if I limited each user to only be able to start one
thread (although not limit follow-up messages) in a 24 hour period.
This would:

a. Encourage users to think before they post and include more
pictures in one message

b. Keep the noise level down

c. Not limit people to commenting on existing threads

d. Enable challenges to take place

ALSO:

Set up a new 'Photo Challenges' forum..
 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top