Lightzone vs ALL

Well, after trying these allrawcaonvertersintheworld, i finally came to LightZone

It doesn't produce Oly colours by default, but using it's Zone system you can tune image for the best result. After all you can save zone preset

Does anybody have such preset for Oly last cams :-?

---- And again - if you can propose me another raw converter that has
1. hotkeys interface (darkzone out)
2. good crop/rotate tool (silkypix out)
3. good sharp/noise tools (oly'soft out)
4. good export tool (lightroom out)

5. excellent (exact Olympus, that can be produced only by Silky without tuning) or tunable colors (c1 out)

I'll try it!!. Thank you

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...with Lightroom's export tool? I think it works great. Maybe, I'm missing something? -Norm

Alexey Babich said:

4. good export tool (lightroom out)

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The only problem I have with the export in Lightroom is if you are exporting 600 to 1,000 photos it can take awhile and if you do try doing to many things at once it can crash
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Lightroom has absolutely stupid two modes of four: Print and Web

But I don't need them.. I need to crop/rotate, than resize, than make my resized image sharpen/less noisy and than export.. Lightroom is unusable for this
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Hmmm, OK, I see some of your point, but how will any program know how you want to crop and rotate a picture, especially if a camera is unable to embed orientation information because it has no orientation sensor? I can see where this can be a pain in Lightroom if you batch process a large number of files. Pardon my ignorance, what program currently does all that you ask for below?

Alexey Babich said:

Lightroom has absolutely stupid two modes of four: Print and Web

But I don't need them.. I need to crop/rotate, than resize, than make
my resized image sharpen/less noisy and than export.. Lightroom is
unusable for this
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it's great software, and does sooooo much more than just a raw converter: amazingly powerful editing tools, simple interface, industry leading tonality control, superb printing algorithm. it's currently missing 3 significant things:

1. easy CA removal. now possible in LZ v3.1, but more involved than with other software. probably be automated in the next iteration.

2. perspective correction. i bet it's on the way, but it's not here yet

3. compositing, including HDR merges.

and as far as #3 is concerned, it may never have it [somehow i don't see compositing as part of the LZ design ethos], but i don't care because LZ is so powerful with regards to tonality control that you can get as much out of a single shot as you would with many HDR merges---and without the multiple exposure hassles. brian mosely ran a beautiful example of this on this forum a couple-3 weeks ago, comparing LZ with a leading purpose-built HDR software. the blind test fooled a bunch of thoughtful and knowledgeable people. basically the results were identical. it's tantamount to HDR for action [or hand-held HDR without high fps cameras].

anyway, i've found PhotoAcute, which does all three of the above AND a resolution enhancement as well, and the best part is: raw-in, raw-out. so i can then pop it right into LZ as a raw and do my thang there. very, very cool, and very powerful combo.

i am happy.

Alexey Babich said:

Lightroom has absolutely stupid two modes of four: Print and Web

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So don't use them...many don't. They are not required.

Alexey Babich said:

But I don't need them.. I need to crop/rotate, than resize, than make
my resized image sharpen/less noisy and than export..

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All can be done quite easily in Lightroom

Lightroom is

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unusable for this

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It isn't if you learn how to use it.

Of those you listed Lightzone would be the first one discarded. It is absolutley unusable for batch processing and color accuracy, very inconvenient for most other functions. I have had Lightzone from it's inception (I am a charter buyer, so I get all updates free for life!). Whlie I wish it were better, it continues to underwhelm.

Lightroom is the best of those listed, with SilkyPix a close second.

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You're right this is not important for large batches..
but I prefer to crop/rotate individually each image and "save for batch"
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May be you're right.. Please, describe steps -

how can I adjust sharpening for each cropped image (cropped to pixel count, not only ratio)

and how can I save these prepare steps for later background batching :-?

All of these is just clear in Bridge+Photoshop but too slow

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But I think that you are misunderstanding Lightroom.
1st: You can crop to any ratio (Enter Custom).
2nd: You can then sharpen or do whatever else the editor will allow you to do.

3rd: Just move on to the next photo to edit, no save required. This is what is different about LR. It keeps the actions as a history of that photo so when you move to the next photo all those edits are still there.

4th: In Library select the photos for the batch (you just cropped and sharpened them) and then export (to another folder or wherever) with the pixel size constraint applied which gets you to the pixel size that you want (like 800X600)

If on the other hand you are batching color development, noise reduction and those processes, that's done under quick development where you Synchronize settings across all photos selected, then do the above steps and export.

I highly recommend Martin Evening "The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book". Your workflow will improve 1000%.
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2. good crop/rotate tool (silkypix out)

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Er, what's wrong with Silky's crop/rotate tools?

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Thank you, i'll try
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