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D60 is sold; 1D available ... Should I grab it?
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BMarkey
Senior Member
This thread has become very helpful. Thanks, all.
It's funny how with some sports (swimming comes to mind), the D30/D60 does so well, but with others (erratic movement sports such as football and soccer) its AI servo just can't quite keep up.
I would have thought swimming would have confused the camera, but with my former D30, almost every shot was in focus. The only reason I have for that is, perhaps, the ripple of water just in front of the swimmer attracts the camera's focus and by the time the shutter fires, the swimmer is in that exact spot.
I amagine the D60 will even be beter in that regard, considering its lack of lag. That is what I like best about the D60.
Nighttime swimming with flash, that's another story. A nightmare for me. (If I could only get the swimmer to stop and let me hit her with an FEL burst to get the proper exposure!)
I manage to do well at polo as well, although I do get many shots where the prime subject is just out of focus and his backup is sharp (same with daytime football). Baseball, equestrian jumping, etc. are easy to shoot with the D30/D60.
I guess the 1D's for me. God help my bank account.
---------------------------------Bob Markey II http://www.palmswestpress.comRoyal Palm Beach/Wellington, Fla.
It's funny how with some sports (swimming comes to mind), the D30/D60 does so well, but with others (erratic movement sports such as football and soccer) its AI servo just can't quite keep up.
I would have thought swimming would have confused the camera, but with my former D30, almost every shot was in focus. The only reason I have for that is, perhaps, the ripple of water just in front of the swimmer attracts the camera's focus and by the time the shutter fires, the swimmer is in that exact spot.
I amagine the D60 will even be beter in that regard, considering its lack of lag. That is what I like best about the D60.
Nighttime swimming with flash, that's another story. A nightmare for me. (If I could only get the swimmer to stop and let me hit her with an FEL burst to get the proper exposure!)
I manage to do well at polo as well, although I do get many shots where the prime subject is just out of focus and his backup is sharp (same with daytime football). Baseball, equestrian jumping, etc. are easy to shoot with the D30/D60.
I guess the 1D's for me. God help my bank account.
---------------------------------Bob Markey II http://www.palmswestpress.comRoyal Palm Beach/Wellington, Fla.
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Dave Knadler
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If you're not a pro and do not aspire to become one, I really question the wisdom of dropping $5k on a camera body, even one as nice as the 1D. That kind of jack would buy a state-of-the-art computer, a great new lense and the latest photo printer -- and you'd have change coming back.
But if money is really no object, I guess the deciding factor would have to be your own skill. A great camera in the hands of an average shooter will produce average photos. You see it all the time on these forums. On the other hand, if you feel you can push the limits of the 1D, then your choice is already made...
But if money is really no object, I guess the deciding factor would have to be your own skill. A great camera in the hands of an average shooter will produce average photos. You see it all the time on these forums. On the other hand, if you feel you can push the limits of the 1D, then your choice is already made...
Clint Thayer #32755
Senior Member
That's what I went through. I felt I needed to have the power of an EOS-1D, then after owning one for a week, the big rush was over. During that week, I used a friends D60 and felt far more comfortable with it. Much more spontaneous. I returned the 1D, and now I have more room for a nice printer. In my particular case, the focus was more accurate on the D60 because the 1D has front focusing issues. But even if that were fixed by Canon, I've always been happy with my film 35mm AE1-- and I'm pleased-- if not relieved to be on the growing list of D60 orders.
--Clint http://www.pbase.com/moviebear
Gary Gibson
Well-known member
WOW.............I have to concur with John. The logic(or lack thereof) in your decision is a bit "out there". Why get rid of something you know in favor of something you don't and in the same breath consider re-buying the former?
I would have gotten a hold on the 1D and tested before considering a "switch off". In other words, you dumped the D60 and now you have nothing but What If(?).
Oh well........it's not a perfect world. I hope you find your place in it.
Gary
I would have gotten a hold on the 1D and tested before considering a "switch off". In other words, you dumped the D60 and now you have nothing but What If(?).
Oh well........it's not a perfect world. I hope you find your place in it.
Gary
Can't exactly help here because I'm still a D60 wannabe but looking at your gallery, I'd think you'll be happy with the D60. IMHO.
More importantly though, thanks for this thread which is one of the more helpful (and calm) I've seen.
ML
More importantly though, thanks for this thread which is one of the more helpful (and calm) I've seen.
ML
Leon58249
Well-known member
Leon K. Wrote:
Well, it has been interesting reading this thread. I am a Pro-am. I don't do everythng I shoot for profit. But I do like good equipment. I think I have come up with the right solution for my need's. Here goes. I am considering the D60 because, action is least of my subject choices, cropping is more important, I can weather proof a D60 for thousands less, and I believe I would be better off spending the difference between the D1 and the D60 on some great Canon Lens's. Because of the Photographic digital revolution that we are in I am sure we are going to see a number of model upgrades in the Pro to Semi-Pro Digital SLR arena. However, the lens's will most likley stay the same. I have already heard rumors that Canon will most likley upgrade the D1 to the 6 Meg CMOS Chip that is on the D60 buy Fall 2002.
Then there is the new Fovean X3 chip. Who know's what Canon may do if the fovean turns out to be a real deal breaker in camera sales. Any how my thinking is the D60 will keep me in the now and only cost me a little to upgrade later when the technological dust and pricing settel's. Mean time putting my savings towards great Canon Lens's they will work on future body's.
--Leon K.
Bob,
May I suggest this, since the financial constraints seem to be very important.
Take the money out of the account, give it to a friend to keep for a week. For that week consider the issue/item that was pushed aside for a camera body, that may at some level be overkill for your needs. If after a week you feel comfortable with having pushed an important issue/item aside then buy the camera.
Remember the 1D will be always be there if not an improved version in a while.
That's my pragmatic side talking, I think you n=know what the other side would do.
Good luck,
Howard
May I suggest this, since the financial constraints seem to be very important.
Take the money out of the account, give it to a friend to keep for a week. For that week consider the issue/item that was pushed aside for a camera body, that may at some level be overkill for your needs. If after a week you feel comfortable with having pushed an important issue/item aside then buy the camera.
Remember the 1D will be always be there if not an improved version in a while.
That's my pragmatic side talking, I think you n=know what the other side would do.
Good luck,
Howard
Chad28479
Active member
The 1D offer
I am not posting to shame you just asking that you think about what's relevant. I have heard great things on this forum but when we knock each other with out cause, it makes us all look foolish.
Post kind post often.
I agree totally. It was obvious to me that the deal was a matter of timing. When you guys point at people and ridicule them, it's hard to read. Please think before you post. this guy was looking for tech advice, not to have his intelligence questioned...
I am not posting to shame you just asking that you think about what's relevant. I have heard great things on this forum but when we knock each other with out cause, it makes us all look foolish.
Post kind post often.
BMarkey
Senior Member
Thanks for my defense. My initial post might have be confusing enough to lead some people to question my judgment. But I really believe we ought to type our posts, go have a drink or whatever, then come back, read-read them, and finally hit the "send" button. This would be a nicer place for it.
I have held and briefly played with a 1D. I just sought some justification for (or last-minute warning against) the purchase. I'm sure many others who do not make their livings off their digital SLRs - yet are paid to make images - are in my same boat.
I didn't lose any money on the D60 sale; have a film backup good enough for a couple of weeks (if necesary); and can probably sell the 1D for at least what I am going to pay for it, should I think it's not worth the money after a week or two.
I think I'm going for it.
I have held and briefly played with a 1D. I just sought some justification for (or last-minute warning against) the purchase. I'm sure many others who do not make their livings off their digital SLRs - yet are paid to make images - are in my same boat.
I didn't lose any money on the D60 sale; have a film backup good enough for a couple of weeks (if necesary); and can probably sell the 1D for at least what I am going to pay for it, should I think it's not worth the money after a week or two.
I think I'm going for it.
---------------------------------Bob Markey II http://www.palmswestpress.comRoyal Palm Beach/Wellington, Fla.
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Lee Rothman
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