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FZ50 for circular polarizer NEW
freakout - 2 days ago
guys,

After along analysis, i have decided to buy FZ50. Thanks for all your inputs. along with the cam, am planing to buy circular polarizer. i saw tiffen circular polarizer 55m in amazon, but one of the customer who bought says that it dint fit fz 50 well. pointers to buy polarizer will be helpful? I also saw Tiffen 55mm Photo Essentials Filter Kit which has following items in the box;
  • UV protector
  • Circular polarizer
  • 55mm diameter
  • 812 color warming filter
any thoughts?
 
The 55mm CP will fit fine . . .

And work equally as well . . .

--
J. Daniels
Colorful Colorado
Panasonic FZ10, FZ50
Olympus E-510
Fuji S602Z, A825



Remember . . . always keep the box and everything that came in it!
 
Go ahead & buy a "Circular Polarizer" if you just MUST waste money.

Linear is actually better.

Better.
Here we go again . . .

--
J. Daniels
Colorful Colorado
Panasonic FZ10, FZ50
Olympus E-510
Fuji S602Z, A825

Remember . . . always keep the box and everything that came in it!
 
how better is the linear polarizer than circular? any brand suggestions?
It's not any better . . .

--
J. Daniels
Colorful Colorado
Panasonic FZ10, FZ50
Olympus E-510
Fuji S602Z, A825



Remember . . . always keep the box and everything that came in it!
 
Better in tat ther are fewer surfaces and the circular manipulates the light TWICE.

No brand suggestions, virtually any actual polarizer made for a camera is just fine. Just don't use your sunglasses.
MusicDoctorDJ Wrote - 3 mins ago
Here we go again . . .
--
J. Daniels
Colorful Colorado
Panasonic FZ10, FZ50
Olympus E-510
Fuji S602Z, A825
Remember . . . always keep the box and everything that came in it!
I was tempted tp say nothing, but I get so worn out with mis-information.

I've said it: Better.

Won't pursue this, if folks want to buy Circular Polarizers where they aren't needed & put "Super Premium" gas in their 19060 VW beetles - so be it.

-E

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For the FZ50 it does not matter if you buy a circular or linear polarizer. LInear polarizers are just as good and less expensive. If you are shopping in local stores, however, circular polarizers are prevalent. Linear ones are rare even in pro-level camera stores, because SLR owners (whether digital or film) MUST use circular polarizers so that their camera exposure and autofocus systems operate properly.

If you order from the big online houses then it is easy to get linear polarizers.

A good quality brand is recommended for a high-res camera like the FZ50. I also STRONGLY recommend multi-coating on the filter, as this type of filter is used mainly for outdoor shooting. The coating costs extra but is well worth it to reduce or eliminate flare caused by the sun hitting the glass element of the filter.

I recommend: Hoya, Tiffen, Heliopan, B+W, any of their models that are multi-coated. Hoya and Tiffer are not so expensive. The others cost more but are very robustly constructed. Not necessarily better optically, however.

As for the Tiffen "kit," this could be useful. I would not get the kit, though, if the filters are not multi-coated. Better to spend a little more for individual coated filters.

A good UV filter can be helpful to cut haze. Do not, however, leave the filter permanently affixed as a "lens protector" as you are unnecessarily adding more glass in the image path which may reduce image quality (even of only slightly). Use flters only if you need their optical effects, or, maybe, when the camera will be exposed to dust, rain, or kids with greasy fingers!

The warming filter is of no use for digital, as you can accomplish the same result much more precisely by adjusting your white balance either in camera or in post processing.

Hope this helps! You will notice a dramatic difference in outdoor photographs with use of the polarizer.

Guy
 
A 55mm Hoya linear pol works fine on FZ50. I got the same filter under the Ritz camera Quantaray house label for about $18 at a local Ritz store. The warming filter is useless in digital photography. You can use a UV or plain glass filter to keep fingerprints off the lens, but the lens hood is free, better and included.

As above, circular pol is not necessary or desired with FZ50.
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-- Rich
Take many pictures - a few are keepers, the rest are are lessons.

 
I do agree that MC is a good thing to have ......but I disagree that a UV filter does anything but protect the lens on a digital camera.

You will find a polarizer, especially a linear one will do a very good job of cutting haze.
But its not hards to remove haze in PS.

I would learn about the FZ50 and learn how to meter correctly and you may find little need for any filter.
I have quite a few and seldom use any, but a ND8 for the silky water effect.

I do keep a SMC hoya filter on the lens for protection but really, would rater do without, but my wife and I are clutzes.
IMHO, You will find a hood does more good than all the filters available.

FWIW.....a linear polarizer works every bit as well as a circular, but are hard to find with MC.
--
Gene from Western Pa
see profile for equipment
http://imageevent.com/grc6
http://grc225.zenfolio.com/



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
I do agree that MC is a good thing to have ......but I disagree that
a UV filter does anything but protect the lens on a digital camera.
You will find a polarizer, especially a linear one will do a very
good job of cutting haze.
But its not hards to remove haze in PS.
I would learn about the FZ50 and learn how to meter correctly and you
may find little need for any filter.
I have quite a few and seldom use any, but a ND8 for the silky water
effect.

I do keep a SMC hoya filter on the lens for protection but really,> would rater dowithout, but my wife and I are clutzes.
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IMHO, You will find a hood does more good than all the filters
available.
Hate to get back in, here, but, don't you agree that a Polarizer darkens blue sky, increasing cloud effects?

I don't believe that a hood does this - nor does it remove reflections from water & glass.
FWIW.....a linear polarizer works every bit as well as a circular,
but are hard to find with MC.
--
Gene from Western Pa
see profile for equipment
http://imageevent.com/grc6
http://grc225.zenfolio.com/



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
Oh! And GuyHarrison wrote, in part:
...... because SLR owners (whether digital or film) MUST use circular polarizers so that their camera exposure and autofocus systems operate properly.
...Sorry to take just one partial sentence out of a great post, but I get to wondering: it's funny, but I used Film SLR's for almost 40 years before going Digital, and I used linear polarizers on all of them, successfully metering all the while.

Just lucky, I guess.

Cheers -Erik
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"Do not, however, leave the filter permanently affixed as a "lens protector" as you are unnecessarily adding more glass in the image path which may reduce image quality (even of only slightly)."

That's true of course, but personally I'm willing to suffer a little IQ degradation, rather than risk the slightest damage to my wonderful FZ50 lens. I always have some type of good quality filter mounted in front of it, and I make a point of keeping the filter VERY clean.
 
I do believe a polarizer has an effect on both darkening the sky. And enriching colors because it removes glare.

and it also removes reflection from shiny objects and water.....I just do not find myself using one much.

Careful metering and a little PP will help with the sky and colors......But I do realize the polarizer is most likely the most popular filter for effects.....I have a couple....I just find myself using them less and less every year.
But then there are others that feel they are the best thing since ice cream.
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IMHO, You will find a hood does more good than all the filters
available.
Hate to get back in, here, but, don't you agree that a Polarizer
darkens blue sky, increasing cloud effects?

I don't believe that a hood does this - nor does it remove
reflections from water & glass.
--
Gene from Western Pa
see profile for equipment
http://imageevent.com/grc6
http://grc225.zenfolio.com/



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
Hi,

I must disagree with the post that says you can achieve haze reduction and rarely need polarizers due to what you can accomplish in post processing. I am a firm believer in maximizing quality at the moment of capture. With the right filters, literally, five seconds in the field can save you five hours behind the computer screen.

You can get the appearance of haze reduction but are taking quality out of the image. Better to eliminate the haze optically at the time of capture. It is true that a polarizer also takes out haze, more noticeably than the UV filter, but the UV can add still more reduction, especially at high altitudes or in aerial photography where UV rays are more intense.

Also, you really cannot duplicate the polarizer effect in post processing, especially the glare reduction which reveals the existing natural color in a way different from pumping up saturation digitally, and also reveals detail not able to be seen otherwise. The darkening effect on skies helps the dynamic range of the image, in extreme situations. I use polarizers 90% of the time in outdoor shooting, even on overcast days, where they still can have a noticeable effect (they cut glare on surfaces even in overcast conditions, and really intensify rainbows!).

As for multicoating, it is true that the use of a lens hood is the best way to beat flare (and also protects your lens), but, with extreme zooms and "petal" hoods a lot of stray light (including oblique sunlight) can still reach the lens surface. For these cameras especially multicoating is still valuable and well worth the cost. I would say that if I had to choose an uncoated linear polarizer or a coated circular one, I would go with the circular for the coating benefits alone. I would sacrifice the coating only if you will hardly ever use the filter or if the extra money is completely prohibitive. For me, the polarizer is THE essential accessory for outdoor work (my specialty) which you will use for may years, and I get the best I can afford. If you invest in the Leica optics of the FZ50 then I would suggest the extra $20 for a multi-coated filter.

Finally, I still shoot film, very happily, with my EOS I-V and Contax 645 medium format system. All my film cameras since my Nikon F3 (am I dating myself? -- ouch!) recommended circular polarizers and the camera manufacturers' polarizers (Nikon and Canon) were always circular. With this infol, I never tried a linear one on these--perhaps paying too much all this time :)!

Good Shooting!

Guy
 
A UV filter does almost nothing for a digital camera as a UV filter is built in the camera.......And 2 stops of light are more important two me than a polarizer filter ,but no one needs to share my opinion ..... I have come to my decisions viewing photos I have taken at everywhere from a few feet below sea level (death valley) to over 14,000 ft (Mt. Evans).
I understand things are quite different with film.

I am not trying to get anyone to change their mind.......but mine is made up, don't confusse me with facts.
--
Gene from Western Pa
see profile for equipment
http://imageevent.com/grc6
http://grc225.zenfolio.com/



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
No filter:



With UV filter:



With UV and Circular Polarizer:



With Circular Polarizer only:



All of these shots with Panasonic FZ10, manual exposure so that exposures were the same, with exception of opening the lens up 2 stops when CP attached.

--
J. Daniels
Colorful Colorado
Panasonic FZ10, FZ50
Olympus E-510
Fuji S602Z, A825

Remember . . . always keep the box and everything that came in it!
 
Thanks very much for that comparison. There is nothing like field testing!

I think it verifies my general comments: the polarizer has the most pronounced effect on both haze and color saturation, the UV has a much more subtle effect but still some difference (sky is better), both together have the most impact.

I have seen a lot of your posts re. the FZ50 and you have a lot of knowledge about that camera. Look forward to sharing more on this forum once mine arrives!

Yes, I took the plunge yesterday and ordered from Costco.com. Hopefully will be here before the weekend?!

Guy
 

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