AmorousLight
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AmorousLight
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...by Voting Libertarian....the Dems and the Repubics are scornfully crooked, and I think the most horrible poison is that Marxist Hillery Clinton. She is a closet socialist, and she is unable to please her husband in bed.
AmorousLight
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Since nobody cared to answer this basic question I raised in the last thread.. I'll try once again: What would be an "ethical" reason to return a camera after 14 months, utilizing Costco's generous "for any reason" policy they used to have?
Indeed, once any item that Costco sells is out of manufacturer warranty, and hence no longer 'guaranteed' to work by the manufacturer; when is it EVER possilble to have an ethical reason to return an item?
Even if in warranty, its been suggested that to return an item, might lead to said item being "prettied up" by the retailer or a distributor, and then resold in sleezy electronics stores in Times Square to unsuspecting tourists. Fact is, we don't know what really happens to a return of any sort, do we? Is it ethical then to return an item that isn't so old and even somewhat new? We do know that if we sent our item to the manufacturer, that they would either fix or replace the item (usually fix) -- so isn't this really the only 'ethical' choice for us with an in-warranty item?
Indeed, once any item that Costco sells is out of manufacturer warranty, and hence no longer 'guaranteed' to work by the manufacturer; when is it EVER possilble to have an ethical reason to return an item?
Even if in warranty, its been suggested that to return an item, might lead to said item being "prettied up" by the retailer or a distributor, and then resold in sleezy electronics stores in Times Square to unsuspecting tourists. Fact is, we don't know what really happens to a return of any sort, do we? Is it ethical then to return an item that isn't so old and even somewhat new? We do know that if we sent our item to the manufacturer, that they would either fix or replace the item (usually fix) -- so isn't this really the only 'ethical' choice for us with an in-warranty item?
Shoplifting, which is theft and against the law, has nothing to do with a business decision that Costco made. And they certainly made adjustments as they went along. Now, TVs, computers, and cameras have a limited return policty.
They do this to capture a customer base. When they are growing rapidly the cost isn't a consideration, as opposed to growing same store sales. Now that sales are levelling off, they need to reduce expenses to maintain margin. So the policy gets adjusted.
They do this to capture a customer base. When they are growing rapidly the cost isn't a consideration, as opposed to growing same store sales. Now that sales are levelling off, they need to reduce expenses to maintain margin. So the policy gets adjusted.
When I returned by 20D after 2 years, I was concerned with their reaction. I was given a blank stare, and a credit on my AMEX, without batting an eye.
The policy is clear - if you are ever dissatisfied, bring it back for a refund. There are no caveats, like "you can only return it if breaks", etc. One man's dissatisfaction is another man's immorality, I suppose. I cant' wait until the 5Dx comes out, so I can return my 5D.
The policy is clear - if you are ever dissatisfied, bring it back for a refund. There are no caveats, like "you can only return it if breaks", etc. One man's dissatisfaction is another man's immorality, I suppose. I cant' wait until the 5Dx comes out, so I can return my 5D.
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vadims
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... that if I say No (with the obvious exception of tax optimization), you'd call me either liar, or fool. You simply cannot comprehend it, right?
Are you implying you wouldn't?
V
vadims
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That must be exactly the logic of some son of a b!tch that scratched my car's trunk with a nail, in January 06. For no reason at all (well, maybe just jealousy).
I bet his friends (gang; whatever) were saying "Yeh, right! He must have stolen the money to buy it, anyway. He DESERVES it".
I bet his friends (gang; whatever) were saying "Yeh, right! He must have stolen the money to buy it, anyway. He DESERVES it".
DavidPisback
Senior Member
I, as manager of a store, would always have a choice.
And I'd send this bum out of the store crying for his momma . . . . even if it meant I had to go manage at McDonald's for a while.
And I'd send this bum out of the store crying for his momma . . . . even if it meant I had to go manage at McDonald's for a while.
DavidPisback
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Costco made a business decision, assuming that people would have the ETHICS not to abuse the policy.
And, were I a manager at a Costco when this happened, I would've made sure it was EOSman that paid for his greed, not the rest of the customers who use the policy in the manner it was intended. (It was never intended as a price guarantee for 15 months, I can assure you).
And, were I a manager at a Costco when this happened, I would've made sure it was EOSman that paid for his greed, not the rest of the customers who use the policy in the manner it was intended. (It was never intended as a price guarantee for 15 months, I can assure you).
Curator
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Just go down to your local homeless shelter. Those nuns are a bunch of suckers...they don't even check if you're really homeless! It's all legal, so you guys should have nothing to worry about. I would mention not to dress for dinner, but for you guys, I'm guessing that's not really an issue 
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vadims
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Classy...
DavidPisback
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Hey, if they ASSUME that I'm homeless, why should I bother to tell them the truth?
AmorousLight
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...because you're passing yourself off as poor. This is apples.
The CostCo issue with EOS Guy is Oranges. ;-)
The CostCo issue with EOS Guy is Oranges. ;-)
That's a new one. "tax optimization" is just another term for cheating on your taxes, eh? I wonder what the IRS would think.
I suppose it could be said that the OP was just optimizing the Costco return policy.
I'm not implying anything about myself. I'm not one of the ones who are coming across as though they've never done anything even slightly unethical. I'm not passing myself off as perfect, like some of the other responders seem to be doing.
By the way, the next time one of you holier than thou types goes even one mile an hour over the speed limit, you should feel ashamed. Better yet, just go to the courthouse and pay the usual fine, even though you weren't pulled over by a cop. It's the 'ethical' thing to do.
I suppose it could be said that the OP was just optimizing the Costco return policy.
I'm not implying anything about myself. I'm not one of the ones who are coming across as though they've never done anything even slightly unethical. I'm not passing myself off as perfect, like some of the other responders seem to be doing.
By the way, the next time one of you holier than thou types goes even one mile an hour over the speed limit, you should feel ashamed. Better yet, just go to the courthouse and pay the usual fine, even though you weren't pulled over by a cop. It's the 'ethical' thing to do.
Paul Cheang
Senior Member
I know nothing anyone said will change the mind of these abusers - they will suck until everything dry up. Let just say I am so happy Costco changed their return policy because it won't effect me but it sure does hurt all the people who take advantage of an otherwise excellent policy.
Now, we all play in an equal field... after 30 or 90 days - you deal with the manufacturer's warranty as it should be. Let see if they can ask a refund from Canon for a 13 months old camera.
Abuse the 30 days return policy and we will end up with some European return policy... once the merchandize left the store you deal with the manufacter. Go ahead keep abusing everything while you can and be proud of your accomplishments because sooner or later you are not going to be able to do that anymore.
Now, we all play in an equal field
... after 30 or 90 days - you deal with the manufacturer's warranty as it should be. Let see if they can ask a refund from Canon for a 13 months old camera.Abuse the 30 days return policy and we will end up with some European return policy... once the merchandize left the store you deal with the manufacter. Go ahead keep abusing everything while you can and be proud of your accomplishments because sooner or later you are not going to be able to do that anymore.
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