D7 vs D7i

Doug Brown91455 · Apr 5, 2002

I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Being new to digital photography I had just completed my research and was about to plunk my $ down when the anounncement of the D7i came out./ So I will wait to they are availiable, hopefully in early June up here in Canada. However I have a few Questions about improvements.

1.) Does the 7i still use its own color space and just use sRGB on the images it sends to the EVF and LCD. What program is the best to convert Minolta colorspace to SRGB?

2.) Has Minolta really addressed the battery consumption issue?

3.) Have image noise levels been imporoved?

4.) Has Minolta added an Af assist lamp for night shots.

IS the D7/7i as sharp as the Sony 707. Some say it usesthe same CCD.

Thanks for all the help. This forum is great!!

Ivo Verhaar (Skitazz) · Apr 5, 2002

eveybody is waiting on the first preproduction model tests to confirm reject this.... It could happen any day now. Euro introduction seems to be april

Brice Glende · Apr 5, 2002

Doug Brown said:
I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Being new to digital
photography I had just completed my research and was about to plunk
my $ down when the anounncement of the D7i came out./ So I will
wait to they are availiable, hopefully in early June up here in
Canada. However I have a few Questions about improvements.

1.) Does the 7i still use its own color space and just use sRGB on
the images it sends to the EVF and LCD. What program is the best to
convert Minolta colorspace to SRGB?

Yes. I use Photoshop Elements & convert to Adobe RGB

Doug Brown91455 said:
2.) Has Minolta really addressed the battery consumption issue?

No. There isn't a battery consumption issue if you use 1600-1800 NiMH batteries.

Doug Brown91455 said:
3.) Have image noise levels been imporoved?

Maybe. They may have added noise reduction features.

Doug Brown91455 said:
4.) Has Minolta added an Af assist lamp for night shots.

I don't think so.

Doug Brown91455 said:
IS the D7/7i as sharp as the Sony 707. Some say it usesthe same CCD.

It does use the same CCD.

Doug Brown91455 said:
Thanks for all the help. This forum is great!!

--Brice

paulr70 · Apr 9, 2002

I've been looking at buying either the D7i or sony dsc-f707. Have a look
at the "comparometer" on http://www.imaging-resource.com .
You'll see that the 707 is slightly sharper than the D7 and slightly
less noise. But a bit more saturated than the D7.
Wait a bit longer and there should be a D7i up there once released.

Doug Brown91455 · Apr 9, 2002

paul said:
I've been looking at buying either the D7i or sony dsc-f707. Have a
look
at the "comparometer" on http://www.imaging-resource.com .
You'll see that the 707 is slightly sharper than the D7 and slightly
less noise. But a bit more saturated than the D7.
Wait a bit longer and there should be a D7i up there once released.

Thanks for the info Paul

Doug

DougT · Apr 9, 2002

Brice,

I may be interested in the D7i, but have been put off my the "color space" issue. I have Photoshop Elements, is it difficult or time consuming to convert to Adobe RGB?

DougT

Brice said:
Brice Glende said:

1.) Does the 7i still use its own color space and just use sRGB on
the images it sends to the EVF and LCD. What program is the best to
convert Minolta colorspace to SRGB?

Click to expand...

Yes. I use Photoshop Elements & convert to Adobe RGB

Sophie Wilson · Apr 10, 2002

DougT said:
Brice,

I may be interested in the D7i, but have been put off my the "color
space" issue. I have Photoshop Elements, is it difficult or time
consuming to convert to Adobe RGB?

(I'm another Elements user...)

Its not difficult at all: DIVU can output to AdobeRGB. Its no more time consuming than converting to sRGB. Many Photoshop (rather than Elements) users simply set their working space to AdobeRGB and import the unprocessed JPG file - this is much quicker, but loses the finer details of the colourspace conversion.

All that said, I get excellent results from sRGB!

--Sophie

bob V · Apr 10, 2002

Doug Brown said:
paul said:

I've been looking at buying either the D7i or sony dsc-f707. Have a
look
at the "comparometer" on http://www.imaging-resource.com .
You'll see that the 707 is slightly sharper than the D7 and slightly
less noise. But a bit more saturated than the D7.
Wait a bit longer and there should be a D7i up there once released.

Click to expand...

Thanks for the info Paul

Doug

I am also thinking of either the 707 or the D7/D7i. What are your opinions? Should I bother getting the D7i over the D7? What are the advantages of the 7i and the Sony 707 over the D7? Anything will be helpful, I have been researching cameras for the past three months trying to decide what to get! Thanks in advance...
Bob

Sacha Griffin #91011 · Apr 10, 2002

Well I might have gotten a 707
but it doesn't take compact flash!
You don't know the power of a GIG MICRODRIVE!

bob V said:
Doug Brown said:

paul said:

I've been looking at buying either the D7i or sony dsc-f707. Have a
look
at the "comparometer" on http://www.imaging-resource.com .
You'll see that the 707 is slightly sharper than the D7 and slightly
less noise. But a bit more saturated than the D7.
Wait a bit longer and there should be a D7i up there once released.

Click to expand...

Thanks for the info Paul

Doug

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I am also thinking of either the 707 or the D7/D7i. What are your
opinions? Should I bother getting the D7i over the D7? What are
the advantages of the 7i and the Sony 707 over the D7? Anything
will be helpful, I have been researching cameras for the past three
months trying to decide what to get! Thanks in advance...
Bob

R Learner · Apr 10, 2002

I'm waiting for the 7i to come out to decide between it and the 707. I very much like the longer zoom range, but have the usual questions about battery life and so on. The 707 seems less like a work in progress vs. the 7/7i. Will have to get my hands on a 7i and see what I think.

The salesman at Adorama here in NYC was very down on Minolta for digicams. He felt the Sony was a much better choice.

Sacha Griffin said:
Well I might have gotten a 707
but it doesn't take compact flash!
You don't know the power of a GIG MICRODRIVE!

Sacha Griffin #91011 said:
Sacha Griffin #91011 said:

Sacha Griffin #91011 said:

Sacha Griffin #91011 said:

I've been looking at buying either the D7i or sony dsc-f707. Have a
look
at the "comparometer" on http://www.imaging-resource.com .
You'll see that the 707 is slightly sharper than the D7 and slightly
less noise. But a bit more saturated than the D7.
Wait a bit longer and there should be a D7i up there once released.

Click to expand...

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Sacha Griffin #91011 said:
Sacha Griffin #91011 said:

I am also thinking of either the 707 or the D7/D7i. What are your
opinions? Should I bother getting the D7i over the D7? What are
the advantages of the 7i and the Sony 707 over the D7? Anything
will be helpful, I have been researching cameras for the past three
months trying to decide what to get! Thanks in advance...
Bob

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paulr70 · Apr 11, 2002

bob V said:
I am also thinking of either the 707 or the D7/D7i. What are your
opinions? Should I bother getting the D7i over the D7? What are
the advantages of the 7i and the Sony 707 over the D7? Anything
will be helpful, I have been researching cameras for the past three
months trying to decide what to get! Thanks in advance...
Bob

I'm slightly more in favour of getting the sony but mainly because I have 180mb of smartcards for sony from owning a 505v before. I've tried to list what the advantages of each are.

I think the the d7/d7i has in its favour:
Microdrive usage for storage (707v uses expensive sony cards)
Allows continious drive. (707v only 3 frames at a go)
Better wide angle and telephoto 28mm upto 200mm (707v 38 to 190mm)
Accurate colouring.
faster shutter speed 1/4000sec (707v upto 1/1000sec)

and Sony 707v has:
Clearer images (in my opinion)
V.good lens.
Longer battery life
V.Good viewfinder
Hologram laser autofocus (to focus in dark conditions)
Nightvision
multimedia ie sound and mpeg recording. (d7i has similar)

I think if the d7i has improved noise reduction and the quality matches
the 707v then I may get the d7i. As it stands I'd have the 707v over the D7.

Jack D. · Apr 11, 2002

paul said:
paulr70 said:

I am also thinking of either the 707 or the D7/D7i. What are your
opinions? Should I bother getting the D7i over the D7? What are
the advantages of the 7i and the Sony 707 over the D7? Anything
will be helpful, I have been researching cameras for the past three
months trying to decide what to get! Thanks in advance...
Bob

Click to expand...

I'm slightly more in favour of getting the sony but mainly because
I have 180mb of smartcards for sony from owning a 505v before. I've
tried to list what the advantages of each are.

I think the the d7/d7i has in its favour:
Microdrive usage for storage (707v uses expensive sony cards)
Allows continious drive. (707v only 3 frames at a go)
Better wide angle and telephoto 28mm upto 200mm (707v 38 to 190mm)
Accurate colouring.
faster shutter speed 1/4000sec (707v upto 1/1000sec)

and Sony 707v has:
Clearer images (in my opinion)
V.good lens.
Longer battery life
V.Good viewfinder
Hologram laser autofocus (to focus in dark conditions)
Nightvision
multimedia ie sound and mpeg recording. (d7i has similar)

I think if the d7i has improved noise reduction and the quality
matches
the 707v then I may get the d7i. As it stands I'd have the 707v
over the D7.

unfortunately we do not have camera having all these features together (of course in this price range). the best choice would be something like this: "MinSon 7i07". but i don't think our dream will go thru to quickly.

so far we have price war for dimage7: http://www.pricescan.com/digiphoto/scripts/Q08010100_I.asp

so, we may should think about it instead of double priced 7i. but, how always, we have to pay high price for any new products.
(my heart belongs to 7i in 99%).
jack

Flare Choo Chin Mun · Apr 11, 2002

If you decide to do a lot of flash photography and like to get an external flash... please note that the external flash unit for the 707 doesnt do TTL.

=)--- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://public.fotki.com/flare/

Liviu Rotariu · Apr 14, 2002

paul said:
paulr70 said:

I am also thinking of either the 707 or the D7/D7i. What are your
opinions? Should I bother getting the D7i over the D7? What are
the advantages of the 7i and the Sony 707 over the D7? Anything
will be helpful, I have been researching cameras for the past three
months trying to decide what to get! Thanks in advance...
Bob

Click to expand...

I'm slightly more in favour of getting the sony but mainly because
I have 180mb of smartcards for sony from owning a 505v before. I've
tried to list what the advantages of each are.

I think the the d7/d7i has in its favour:
Microdrive usage for storage (707v uses expensive sony cards)
Allows continious drive. (707v only 3 frames at a go)
Better wide angle and telephoto 28mm upto 200mm (707v 38 to 190mm)
Accurate colouring.
faster shutter speed 1/4000sec (707v upto 1/1000sec)

To be added: manual zoom, wider colour space, cheaper battery

paulr70 said:
and Sony 707v has:
Clearer images (in my opinion)
V.good lens.
Longer battery life
V.Good viewfinder
Hologram laser autofocus (to focus in dark conditions)
Nightvision
multimedia ie sound and mpeg recording. (d7i has similar)

I think if the d7i has improved noise reduction and the quality
matches
the 707v then I may get the d7i. As it stands I'd have the 707v
over the D7.

Jerry Johnson · Apr 14, 2002

Doug Brown said:
I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Being new to digital
photography I had just completed my research and was about to plunk
my $ down when the anounncement of the D7i came out./ So I will
wait to they are availiable, hopefully in early June up here in
Canada. However I have a few Questions about improvements.

Part of the decision for me is based on the lower price that the D7 is available for now $700 in comparison for what $500 more for a D7i will bring me. I think the D7 will be a great step up from a Kodak 210+ and maybe, just maybe I can wait for a Minota SLR that will fit my Minolta lens collection. If my lenses would fit the new Canon D60 I would probably go for it, but I cannot justify the additional expense for the telephotos I desire.

--Jerry J

rikster · Apr 14, 2002

Jerry Johnson said:
Doug Brown said:

I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Being new to digital
photography I had just completed my research and was about to plunk
my $ down when the anounncement of the D7i came out./ So I will
wait to they are availiable, hopefully in early June up here in
Canada. However I have a few Questions about improvements.

Click to expand...

Part of the decision for me is based on the lower price that the D7
is available for now $700 in comparison for what $500 more for a
D7i will bring me. I think the D7 will be a great step up from a
Kodak 210+ and maybe, just maybe I can wait for a Minota SLR that
will fit my Minolta lens collection. If my lenses would fit the
new Canon D60 I would probably go for it, but I cannot justify the
additional expense for the telephotos I desire.

makes sense jerry , I agree
--
Jerry J

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