nikon d70 + photoshop cs2: color problems...

nikon d70 - color mode II (adobe rgb)
photoshop cs2

when i copy my jpegs to the computer and preview them in windows (windows picture and fax viewer), they look fine.

BUT when i open them in EITHER photoshop cs2 or nikon view 6, the 'contrast' is very poor. especially with skin tones and high contrast areas such as lights, etc.

it seems that the 'windows picture and fax viewer' does a BETTER job of rendering the pictures...

i am reading about properly configuring the color space in photoshop to match that of the information in the photo...but i can't seem to figure this out.

any help would be greatly appreciated. i can't imagine the built-in windows viewer doing a superior job than p.s. or nv6.

thank you,
jay

Sorry if this sounds rude, but it seems you are using an expensive program (CS2) without a clue. Do yourself a favor and get this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Real-World-Adobe-Photoshop-CS2/dp/0321334116

I'm sure somebody will pitch in to give you the answer to your immediate question.

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you're absolutely right...i don't have a clue.

can anyone help out?

i can't seem to get the workflow right...thanks!

kepani said:

nikon d70 - color mode II (adobe rgb)
photoshop cs2

when i copy my jpegs to the computer and preview them in windows
(windows picture and fax viewer), they look fine.

BUT when i open them in EITHER photoshop cs2 or nikon view 6, the
'contrast' is very poor. especially with skin tones and high
contrast areas such as lights, etc.

it seems that the 'windows picture and fax viewer' does a BETTER job
of rendering the pictures...

i am reading about properly configuring the color space in photoshop
to match that of the information in the photo...but i can't seem to
figure this out.

any help would be greatly appreciated. i can't imagine the built-in
windows viewer doing a superior job than p.s. or nv6.

thank you,
jay

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Color profiles for Camera, PS, Monitor must be sRGB or AdobeRGB

set photoshop to AdobeRGB

or better set the camera to srgb.

Infact only use SRGB unless you are happty to say "colour management thats something I really understand"
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you're missing out on a LOT shooting JPEGs. To really make that sing, shoot RAW and use CS2's Adobe Camera Raw plugin. MUCH better than the D70's JPEG processor (I only shoot JPEG if I'm shooting a photo booth where I need to crank out 4x6's johnny-on-the-spot all day, otherwise it's all RAW and Capture NX for me.) Try changing the color mode to IIIa (if you shoot RAW you can override this later as well, but the initial preview will still look better shot in IIIa versus II.)

But if you've got CS2, shoot RAW...you're missing out on what the D70 is really capable of shooting JPEG.

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I agre but set the RAW converter to SRGB!!!!!!
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ejen said:

Color profiles for Camera, PS, Monitor must be sRGB or AdobeRGB

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THANK YOU EVERYONE for the replies! i did not realize that the color management profile of my monitor was not set to match that of my photo and the setting in photoshop. hence, my photo would initially look ok...but when my screen would 'refresh'...the image would revert to the 'dell' management profile.

AGAIN, arigatou, thank you, mahalo!

and also, i think i will venture in shooting more RAW.

jay a.k.a. kepani...

kepani said:

ejen said:

Color profiles for Camera, PS, Monitor must be sRGB or AdobeRGB

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THANK YOU EVERYONE for the replies! i did not realize that the color
management profile of my monitor was not set to match that of my
photo and the setting in photoshop. hence, my photo would initially

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Don't use sRGB or adobeRGB or any other standard color spaces/profiles for your monitor. I won't explain why, but DON'T DO THIS. Instead, get a decent CS2 guidebook. You'll know why. Until you get the book, just stick to color mode I, and use auto level, auto color, and auto everything in CS2. I've been there. I was stupid and ruined many good photos because I didn't take color management or digital image editing seriously. Don't listen to any more useless advises, and just get a book.

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Shingo said:

Don't use sRGB or adobeRGB or any other standard color
spaces/profiles for your monitor. I won't explain why, but DON'T DO
THIS. Instead, get a decent CS2 guidebook. You'll know why. Until you
get the book, just stick to color mode I, and use auto level, auto
color, and auto everything in CS2. I've been there. I was stupid and
ruined many good photos because I didn't take color management or
digital image editing seriously. Don't listen to any more useless
advises, and just get a book.

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shingo, i am intrigued by the book suggestion...thanks!

but, i'm curious why you decide not to explain...

if i don't match the space/profiles, from a 'hardware' standpoint, my pictures won't display correctly right? now from a pure 'photopraphic' standpoint, i can appreciate your suggestion to read a book (since i am a beginner photographer).

just wanna clear this up...

kepani said:

but, i'm curious why you decide not to explain...

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Because color management is a convoluted matter. The reason why the photo looks differently in the two programs is that one is color managed (PS), and the other isn't (Windows).

kepani said:

if i don't match the space/profiles, from a 'hardware' standpoint, my
pictures won't display correctly right?

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"Match" shouldn't be taken as to mean assigning an identical color profile to all devices (camera, video card, printer, etc.). If you do that, your print will look different from the image on the monitor.

Each hardware piece needs a correct device-specific profile. In addition, you need to decide on a suitable RGB working color space (eg sRGB, Adobe RGB, Prophoto RGB, etc.) for the kinds of images you handle. If your primary editing needs are for 16-bit DSLR images embedded with Adobe RGB, it's safe to use Adobe RGB as your PHotoshop working space. If you only shoot in jpeg (8 bits), then you should consider using sRGB as your working space. Adobe RGB would unnecessarily stretch the tonal range of 8-bit images, risking to introduce posterization or tonal gaps.

If you are half serious about photography, profile your display, then learn color management.

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thanks shingo...

Jay,

You need to start by calibrating your monitor. You must also make shroe all white balance settings match.

Morris
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