Ping Phil

He should review what is released ASAP. If there is an issue then
flag it. If there is an update. Go repeat that part and see if it is
fixed. It makes much more sense.
I like Phil's reviews but lately its super slow. It is even harder to
understand since he got bought by Amazon. May be he's now on vacation
somewhere around here on the beach? I cannot believe it takes that
much time to do a review...
At this point Phil seems to be in a no win situation. If he does he's review and points out the fact he is also experiencing AF issues he would be called baised toward Nikon and bashing Canon. So he may be waiting for the fix to not have to report AF issues, so inturn the delay is causing some to claim he is baised toward Nikon anyway.
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Will somebody please tell Canon to get off their, a s s e s, and first acknowledge the problem with the mkIII, then fix the production problems with the mkIII and issue a recall/fix. My god what are they doing, hoping it gets forgotten?????

They are asking $4500 for a camera that doesn't work 100%???? If they would just issue a statement and admit it. Its insulting that they don't say anything.

Im madder than h e l l and I'm not going to take it anymore. I could buy a mkIII, I need a killer camera but the Nikon D3 is only one click away, Canon wake up!!!!!!

Mike
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Well, my Canonite friend.. You refer to those as 'reviews'.. if you
read carefully, it is 'Hand-on previews'.. notice the HUGE difference
there. Phil already noted that the initial D300 and D3 previews (not
reviews) were based on Nikon literature he received. This time
around, he gets his hands on them.. Quite a different experience if
you ask me.
Yes, you are correct and I will concede that point even though his "previews" seem more thorough then that of the 40D. But wouldn't you agree that all things equal his priorities are a bit askew? What good is a review site if I can't find a review for products that are already on the shelves? To the average consumer the D3 and D300 are just vaporware until Nov. The 1D Mark III and 40D are real and available now.

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Maybe those that keep complaining about no new canon review should get the MkIII or D40 and sent it to Phil for review. If canon has send Phil the camera I don't think Phil will not review it. come on a big company like canon are so stingy enough to give

their camera to Phil early ... how much canon has benefit from Dpreview and Phil review and us that spent time in this forum .... all thank to this guy Phil and now people are mocking him because they don't get what they like to see.

If canon don't respect Phil ... why Phil has to put up with Canon or some of you guys.

At least Nikon sent Phil their best early ... if I'm phil I will respect those that respect me, sorry I can't compare myself to Phil. Look at the man review and his vision that built DPreview .... all the respect to Phil and if he make a lot of money from amazon or Nikon he deserve every single penny of it.

Show us your review and stop wasting time complaining... maybe u think u are better than Phil .... we don't pay Phil for his review but we pay canon for the gears..... Canon is the one that should wakeup.... and some of u guys...get real and go take pic and make your living...or get a hug.

If you like the camera just buy it or ask around in the forum ...
 
Maybe Canon don't want phil to review their broken AF.
Or Phil worries to hurt those of us that have broken Mark III AF.

My Mark III AF is @@@@$$$$ broken and it back to the shop for a new one.

Please those that have a good camera pls do a review or go out and enjoy their working AF. Canon is number one but that doesn't make them the best all the time .... like some people here that think they have a canon markIII and they are the king... and tell a respectable person like Phil in the Dslr world what they like him to do.

A lots of us that shoot Nikon before for years have know Nikon great days in decades before ... canon has only been number one for 7 yrs. Things can change and if u hold the $$$$$ u can but best u want .... don't worry that other are better under the pants.

I have friend that don't use canon that take better photos give others brand user a break and yourself a break don't be too selfish when you see the grass is greener on the other side.
 
...reading so many already!
Why do you need another?

The Nikon stuff were previews. Not reviews. Nothing useful was said (imho).

So, there is nothing to complain about until the real reviews come and even then, it's highly debatable.

I find it v strange that people think 'their brand' somehow 'deserves' to be reviewed first because of release date without knowing anything about what goes on behind the scenes.

There are a million and one potential reasons one could hypothesise (incorrectly) for delays to the 1DIII review; from Nikon doing a deal with Amazon, to Canon's press dept not getting info over on time. Possibly both! Perhaps Phil's doing Canon a favour and waiting for them to fix the AF. He allowed Leica time to jury-rig their lenses with some filters to sort out the $5k M8's faulty sensor! Perhaps he is just busy. Perhaps he can't be bothered. Perhaps it's done and will come tomorrow.

We will get the reviews. Yes it's nice to have them sooner rather than later and everyone wants the cam they own to be reviewed first so they can feel that their purchase decision has been reaffirmed.

Wouldn't it be nice to have the reviews of both the new Nikons and the new Canons come out on the same day?

That would be fair wouldn't it? Also good for objective consumers that own neither brand.

Some would claim it was unfair as Canon announced first. That would be a petty and somewhat biased attitude imho. One could argue that the D3 should be reviewed first as on paper it's a better cam in terms of price/performance. If correct, then consumers would be better of knowing that sooner.

Perhaps Phil has some new tests lined up for the reviews that are delaying things?

Now Nikon has stabilised long Teles, it would be nice to see a comparison of AF, IS and IQ. Great opportunity.

The only reason anyone's worried about it is because Canon seem to have dropped the ball.

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Well, my Canonite friend.. You refer to those as 'reviews'.. if you
read carefully, it is 'Hand-on previews'.. notice the HUGE difference
there. Phil already noted that the initial D300 and D3 previews (not
reviews) were based on Nikon literature he received. This time
around, he gets his hands on them.. Quite a different experience if
you ask me.
Yes, you are correct and I will concede that point even though his
"previews" seem more thorough then that of the 40D. But wouldn't you
agree that all things equal his priorities are a bit askew?
Yes, admittedly, it seems 'unfair' or 'unbalanced'. Indeed, I am in agreement with you. But perhaps as many have suggested, Phil might have been asked not to review until the issues are fixed. Who knows... perhaps Phil is saving face on Canon's behalf for all we know. Not sure if we'll ever really know.. but it is admittedly all too easy to speculate.
What good is a review site if I can't find a review for products that are
already on the shelves?
Again, agreed. Would be nice to have a review by now.. but again, who knows what 'arrangements' are happening behind closed doors so-to-speak between Phil and Canon (if any).

All in all Rob, I can say that I do agree with you. Even though I am a Nikonian, I can see the frustration of some Canonites (and perhaps rightfully so). But again, who knows the real intentions..(or ulterior motives) it could well be to save face (for Canon). In either case, we know a review is coming. And perhaps when it does, it will be truly ready for rave reviews.

Had the situation been for the D3 instead, I think I wouldn't mind seeing a review held off, so long as members who have purchased it and complained publicly about any issues the camera might have is aired out in the open for all members to read. This way, we still get some heads up on the situation at large.

Hang in there... it's undoubtedly coming.

Cheers,

NRG

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...reading so many already!
Why do you need another?
For the same reason Edvards Grieg's "Peer Gynt" score has been written in 1876 and I still like to read anything that is written about it.

Some of us are funny that way. We actually like to know what others think about our favorite things.

PK

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... not a simple review of a single camera.

In the past he has aimed for a review to be a comparison between relevant comparable cameras. Obviously, 1D(s) mk3 and 40D will battle it out with D3 and D300 respectively. Assuming the release dates will not be THAT far off each other, I think it is reasonable that all the tests Phil have done or will do have pitted these two groups of cameras against each other.

It's just that he can't release such comparative review now because he would be breaking NDA for Nikon cameras.

Yes, to an extent it is unfair towards Canon.

Tough luck, I say. I am much more interested in comparisons between these two sets of cameras.
 
Well, since Phil sold his site to Amazon things are very different.
If he wants to get back at Canon, then he did by not putting up the
40D and mkIII reviews.
You didn't see the 40D preview? It even included samples...
And he posted a Ds3 preview.

None of the new caeras are reviewed yet, I assume the 40D will be first in line, simply because they are already released. Phil do indeed need cameras before he can review them :)

1d3 might follow, but what will a review of a failed camera tell us? That it is excellent unless you need to use it?
Maybe he has a special deal with Nikon, $$$$. And dont say its not
possible, not in this day in age. Money talks and there is no law
that says he cant do what he wants.
Sure, it is possible, but I have never seen a reason to mistrust anything Phil says.

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Please understand the difference before you open your mouth.
Dunno about Rob but I understand the following:

1. There is no "Hands on Preview" for the a camera launched almost 6 months ago yet there are 2 for cameras yet to be released.

2. There is also still no full review for the MKIII, although the M8 one has been published almost 2 months ago and Phil stated that the MKIII review would be next.

...Am I allowed to open MY mouth?

PK

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Thanks for that clarification.
and Phil did previews for the Canons too. He just did a so-so job
(4-7 pages vs 12 on the Nikon) on them and it was more perfunctory
than anything exciting.
There is more pages for the Nikon's because they have much more
features to talk about. For example Phil has never put as much detail
into the LCD monitor as he did for the Nikons. This is because, Nikon
was the first to have a full VGA display, therefore he took the time
and created a section just to show us the differences. Then theres
also a new section for HDMI output / High Definition display, again a
first and only for Nikon. As another poster alluded to there's
simply more to talk about with Nikons offerings.
Actually we're talking about the difference between a preview based
on spec sheets and press releases, which is what he has for the two
Canons (plus the image gallery that he later added to the 40D preview
almost 5 five weeks ago and a HANDS ON preview which is what he has
now done for the two Nikons.
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Each year, with each new Canon and Nikon Camera, Phil always wait to have a Nikon that can compete with the Canon before reviewing the Canon.

I don't remember how long the user of this forum wait for review on the 1DmkII, but I remember the critiques about it.

Phil don't like the Canon and try to state in each of his review that the Nikon is better and he is just waiting for the good Nikon Camera. Maybe we can see the review of the 1D body in march after the next Nikon release in PMA.
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Each year, with each new Canon and Nikon Camera, Phil always wait to
have a Nikon that can compete with the Canon before reviewing the
Canon.
I don't remember how long the user of this forum wait for review on
the 1DmkII, but I remember the critiques about it.
Phil don't like the Canon and try to state in each of his review that
the Nikon is better and he is just waiting for the good Nikon Camera.
Maybe we can see the review of the 1D body in march after the next
Nikon release in PMA.
Which smacks of favouritism towards Nikon.

http://www.dpreview.com - Dgitial Camera news and Previews, where Nikon comes first
 
Phil's most likely embarressed to admit that the D3s IQ is better..

I cant wait to see the results!

But what's really funny is how freaked out Canon users are...But hey...seriously... Nikon started the war with the D1...Canon one-uped it...and now Nikons just back out in front for the next 5 years....guess what will happen next? Canon will on-up Nikon

thats the way it is...and always will be

gear's gear.... just take nice photos
 
Ok so let’s assume Canon hasn't provided bodies to test. Don't you think it would be best for Phil or his staff to acknowledge that? They don't have to say, "Canon hasn't provided." All they have to say is, "We're waiting for a test unit." Really simple, hurts nobody. Certainly better than saying, "It will be next after the M8 review." and then not delivering.

However, I'm curious what the hell the Amazon deal provides to Phil if somebody in the organization can't afford to provide a camera... Even a loaner.

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Rob Kircher
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I don't see any bias either in the written reviews but his silence
give the impression of being bias right or wrong.
I guess we just perceive things differently, which is OK by me. But Phil's "silence" on recent cameras isn't that unusual. He rarely publishes reviews of cameras that don't pass muster. Take the GE entry. Based on any test/review I've seen, it's junk. So I guess Phil's posture is that if you can't say something even remotely positive, then don't say anything.

As far as the Canon 1DIII goes, it could be that he's waiting for the Nikons to become available so he can publish proper comparisons of shipping products, which is what I'd rather see than a review published quickly.

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Well he has a 1Ds MIII in the photo next to the D3 so I think he's
got at least one.
Yeah, right. And I can send you a photo that 'proves' that I have
seven 1Ds Mark III cameras on the shelf right now. Ever heard of this
little software package called 'Photoshop' or something like that?...
Ok so he doesn't have a 1Ds or 1D Mark III or a 40D. Whats so hard
about just saying that?
I'm not saying that he doesn't have those cameras. I'm just saying that some press photos joined together in Photoshop don't prove he has them.

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