sasquatch98
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Why he is obviously not reviewing cameras he should have plenty of time now that Amazon is paying his bills.
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As you note. Over time they are likely to call more shots.
This site really is almost all about forum activity and clicks.
Actual reviews here don't occur very often. There have been zero reviews this month. There was ONE in August.
This is not really a digital camera review web site. It is a busy forum though.
Nothing wrong with that.
Most likely there will be a bunch of reviews up fairly soon as there has been a pause.
This site really is almost all about forum activity and clicks.
Actual reviews here don't occur very often. There have been zero reviews this month. There was ONE in August.
This is not really a digital camera review web site. It is a busy forum though.
Nothing wrong with that.
Most likely there will be a bunch of reviews up fairly soon as there has been a pause.
NickMJr
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There is more pages for the Nikon's because they have much more features to talk about. For example Phil has never put as much detail into the LCD monitor as he did for the Nikons. This is because, Nikon was the first to have a full VGA display, therefore he took the time and created a section just to show us the differences. Then theres also a new section for HDMI output / High Definition display, again a first and only for Nikon. As another poster alluded to there's simply more to talk about with Nikons offerings.
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Actually we're talking about the difference between a preview based on spec sheets and press releases, which is what he has for the two Canons (plus the image gallery that he later added to the 40D preview almost 5 five weeks ago and a HANDS ON preview which is what he has now done for the two Nikons.
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And if they can also add an MP3 player and cell phone, I'll buy two!
PhotoKhan
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It's sweet...
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So I guess everyone is even!
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shootinphotos
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places to go for a reveiw...canon don't like phil so what??
Wrong on what gives this site credibility==== It ain' t phil and reveiws, it is youse guys on the forum
Fair enough, but the D3 is just a preview, not a full review.
I personally don't think the 40D is all that interesting as a review subject, meaning that I wouldn't expect many surprises good or bad from it. It's pretty much a connect the dots upgrade, given our knowledge of the 30D and 400.
The 1D Mk III has the AF issue, and that makes the issue of a review particularly problematic. It is perhaps the most controversial DSLR in the past several years. Does Phil wait to see what rabbit Canon will pull out of a hat, or does he move ahead? Will his review do justice to the somewhat divergent stories on this DSLR?
I can see Phil expending a lot of time on that to get it right. I certainly can understand why people would want the review as soon as possible, and I respect that.
I do hope there is not much wait for a 1Ds Mk III review.
I personally don't think the 40D is all that interesting as a review subject, meaning that I wouldn't expect many surprises good or bad from it. It's pretty much a connect the dots upgrade, given our knowledge of the 30D and 400.
The 1D Mk III has the AF issue, and that makes the issue of a review particularly problematic. It is perhaps the most controversial DSLR in the past several years. Does Phil wait to see what rabbit Canon will pull out of a hat, or does he move ahead? Will his review do justice to the somewhat divergent stories on this DSLR?
I can see Phil expending a lot of time on that to get it right. I certainly can understand why people would want the review as soon as possible, and I respect that.
I do hope there is not much wait for a 1Ds Mk III review.
All new, 10FPS, 14bit, dual processing with a 3" LCD was interesting
way back in February but fell on deaf ears around here. Nikon
releases a camera that only real difference is a FF sensor and that's
interesting? I'm not sure but it gets a review less then a month
after its announcement.
Look this isn't just a Nikon vs. Canon thing. The A700 has more of a
write up then the Mark III does.
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maxz
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cry when there's no review, then cry more when the review isn't what you wanted to hear. as long as Phil isn't giving 'highly recommended' to what YOU have, he is always biased.
Just imagine if he has reviewed the 1d3 and give it 'not recommended due to unreliable AF', how many peoples purchase decision will be affected... he did canon a huge favor in this case, so quit crying just thank him.
Just imagine if he has reviewed the 1d3 and give it 'not recommended due to unreliable AF', how many peoples purchase decision will be affected... he did canon a huge favor in this case, so quit crying just thank him.
Rob Kircher
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Why is it that there always has to be someone who turns these threads into something personal. It’s no skin off my teeth, I have my 1D Mark III. I'm just curious and I find the entire thing suspicious.
As a mater of fact I’ve supported Phil up until now. But comments from him and his staff like, “the 40D is next” with no delivery and virtually nothing on the Mark III (either of them) make one wonder just what is going on. Is it Canon? Phil? Both? Is it NDAs? What is it? If Phil would be a bit more forth coming he’d avoid all this slack and help protect his reputation? “We have a lot on our plate” just doesn’t cut it when you can get a hands on preview done just a couple of weeks after announcement on one model yet completely ignore another months after it’s been available to the public. By the time he posts anything, it will be useless because those of us interested will have already bought the model and could write our own review.
Fair enough?
On the other hand not coming out with exactly that review is doing the consumer a huge disservice. The more important reviewer who publishes bad reviews the more apt Canon is to fix the issue once and for all.
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ByronP
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Don't worry, when his contract is up, things will change. Amazon executives only care about dollars and Canon produces at least and in some segments more revenue than Nikon. Amazon executives don't really care that one camera or brand is better than another or one manufacturer likes or dislikes the past owner of this site, they only care about revenue.
So in a year or so, things will become even again. The only question in my mind is will Canon respond properly to its new competition or try to continue to exist as if they have no competition. Will they fully test and debug their new cameras before they sell them to the public. Will they listen to their customers like Nikon seems to be doing now and provide what their customers are asking for?
What Phil does or does not do is not really important especially at the top end of this market.
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So in a year or so, things will become even again. The only question in my mind is will Canon respond properly to its new competition or try to continue to exist as if they have no competition. Will they fully test and debug their new cameras before they sell them to the public. Will they listen to their customers like Nikon seems to be doing now and provide what their customers are asking for?
What Phil does or does not do is not really important especially at the top end of this market.
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peterd1958
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....it seems to me that most of us are interested more in which camera offers better specs on paper rather than enjoy the machine they know is the best for them. Before I bought my 1DM2n, I did a lot of research and read a lot threads (yes, here) and since I've been a Canon user for the past 20 yrs buying a Nikon never crossed my mind nor I was interested to know what Nikon had on the market. The question was which Canon should I buy and I'm glad I got the Mk2n in lieu of the mk3 (for now) based on complaints raised by many users not what this site wrote on it. The threaders here use their equipment on a daily basis, heck, some of you guys even do it to make money and those are the best source of information. I use Canon for many reasons...one been glass quality...IQ...const'n quality and something that most people overlook, that is FEEL. When I hold my EOS 1N or 1DMarkIIN or the D20 feels as they're an extension of me.
That is what I think
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Spazmedia
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Not to mention Sony actually has released a camera into consumers hands with all the features listed above (except the liveview). Nikon has announced 2 cameras on paper which look great. Where can I try one though...And if they can also add an MP3 player and cell phone, I'll buy two!
LVPG
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Write and think what you might. I've always held Phil's reviews in hi regard. Generally speaking, for the short duration of his 'hands-on' tests, he's usually spot on with his summary; 'general' being the operative word.
You would have to summarize there's a reason for the lack of review. 1 glaring reason comes to mind...focus issue. Believe it or not, Phil's reviews can [and often do] legitimise a product. Reporting an irreversible focus issue in a 'sports/action' camera could seriously affect sales.
My guess, being flush with cash and ego from the Amazon deal, he's taking the hi road and allowing Canon to 'work' the issue out. The new Nikon stuff simply gives him other avenues of equal importance.
Think about it, what could he write that isn't already known. What real good would it do to confirm that which many have already remarked. He did the review of the D200 after Nikon addressed the 'banding' issue as well.
Like him or not, agree with him or not, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt with respect to his decision making.
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You would have to summarize there's a reason for the lack of review. 1 glaring reason comes to mind...focus issue. Believe it or not, Phil's reviews can [and often do] legitimise a product. Reporting an irreversible focus issue in a 'sports/action' camera could seriously affect sales.
My guess, being flush with cash and ego from the Amazon deal, he's taking the hi road and allowing Canon to 'work' the issue out. The new Nikon stuff simply gives him other avenues of equal importance.
Think about it, what could he write that isn't already known. What real good would it do to confirm that which many have already remarked. He did the review of the D200 after Nikon addressed the 'banding' issue as well.
Like him or not, agree with him or not, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt with respect to his decision making.
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Scooter
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You'd think these people also send him a monthly subscription fee considering the "demand for justice". I think you're dead on. He's taking the SMART road cuz this new system's got problems. If Canon won't address it and Phil did... imagine the mess. I'll bet RG sometimes wishes he'd have stayed out of it too.
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gavin
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He should review what is released ASAP. If there is an issue then flag it. If there is an update. Go repeat that part and see if it is fixed. It makes much more sense.
I like Phil's reviews but lately its super slow. It is even harder to understand since he got bought by Amazon. May be he's now on vacation somewhere around here on the beach? I cannot believe it takes that much time to do a review...
I like Phil's reviews but lately its super slow. It is even harder to understand since he got bought by Amazon. May be he's now on vacation somewhere around here on the beach? I cannot believe it takes that much time to do a review...
nrg_alpha
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[chop]...
But in all honesty, there has been so much posted information on the 1dMarkIII by early bird tech adopters that users who do frequent these forums should know pretty much which issues currently exist with the camera (though admittedly, a full-fledged review would help out those users who do not frequent these forums, thus do not know all of the issues being reported).
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I do tend to agree with this. If things are made clear and out in the open with regards to issues like this, the confusion would be non-existent. Perhaps Phil has his reasons (whatever they may be...public or not...)
But in all honesty, there has been so much posted information on the 1dMarkIII by early bird tech adopters that users who do frequent these forums should know pretty much which issues currently exist with the camera (though admittedly, a full-fledged review would help out those users who do not frequent these forums, thus do not know all of the issues being reported).
Well, my Canonite friend.. You refer to those as 'reviews'.. if you read carefully, it is 'Hand-on previews'.. notice the HUGE difference there. Phil already noted that the initial D300 and D3 previews (not reviews) were based on Nikon literature he received. This time around, he gets his hands on them.. Quite a different experience if you ask me.
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