40d vs 5d

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Digital user for 5 years. Considering purchasing one of these. Serious amatuer. Understand most of the basics and that the 5d is better, but how much and what lens would you purchase with each. Is an L series worth the money.
 
Start with reading the countless "5D vs. the world/universe" posts in the 5D forum, will ya..?
 
Digital user for 5 years. Considering purchasing one of these.
Serious amatuer. Understand most of the basics and that the 5d is
better, but how much and what lens would you purchase with each. Is
an L series worth the money.
YAWN...

Well let's see... oh I don't feel like typing it all out...
 
You might just start with a 24-105L for either camera. It's a good standard zoom lens. You can then decide what to add later depending on your needs and preferred type of photography.
 
For what it's worth,I can't say anything about a 40D,don't have one,I went from a D60 to the 5D..For me the FF was the reason not image quality..The D60 although now way old,still holds it's own from an IQ standpoint..The 5D is amazing for landscapes/scenics..I use zooms,17-40,24-105 and 70-200f4 IS and a 70-300DO....If I could have just one I'd take the 24-104...that is for what I shoot....I am so pleased to have 17mm be 17mm..If money was no object I'd also have a used mk11n and a long lens for birding...Bob
 
I have the 20D, 5D and just got the 40D. I gave my 20D to a family member and am selling my 5D. The kicker for me is my preference for the 1.6 crop factor on the 40D plus the image quality. When I want to go wide, I'll use my 10-20 lens (which doesn't work on the 5D) but mostly will use the 24-105 and 100-400. I'm keeping my 35 1.4 for a fast prime and indoors shooting. Again, for me, the 5D was good but I like the longer reach of the 1.6 sensor and I really, really like the 40D IQ. It's a personal taste decision. You might want to try one of the rental companies (like lensprotogo) and try out both to see which works best for you.
 
I have a 20D, and at one point upgraded to 5D/24-105L. I didn't see major difference between the 5D and 20D, and the ultra wide lens for 5D is either too expensive or not good enough to match my 10-22. Also, the 5D uses AF sensor of 20D, so the AF point coverage is much worse then 20D. The quality of 24-105L is not much better than my 17-85... with all these, I sold the 5D/24-105.

But I am still interested in FF body because portrait and landscape are my major targets, and FF has an edge. If the next 5D can take all the new improvements from the 40D, and has a AF sensor for FF, I may upgrade again and keep the 20D for telephoto/sporty use.

But... I am sure I will be happy with a 40D upgrade.
 
No difference between 5d and 20d, thats hard to believe. I have both cameras and there is a major difference. the image quality is much better with the 5d and the noise at the higher iso settings is much better. The 20d shoots more frames per second and has 1.6x factor, and that is the only reason i keep it.
 
I previously used a 20D and just picked up a 40D! THe 40D is awesome, very nice camera indeed! If you decide to go with the 40D, I suggest the 18-55mm f2.8 IS USM lens. This lens is pretty pricey at around $1000 US, but it's worth the $$$. You won't be disappointed!
 
Interesting to hear that ... the quality of 24-105L is not much better than my 17-85 ...

I have a 350D and had the 17-85 before. It was very bad at the wide-end. Sold and got the 24-105L. Way much better. The two are in different league.

If I want to go for FF, I would wait for the 5D replacement. Things in the 5D are getting old. We need a new focusing system, digic III, sensor dust remover, etc, etc.
I have a 20D, and at one point upgraded to 5D/24-105L. I didn't see
major difference between the 5D and 20D, and the ultra wide lens for
5D is either too expensive or not good enough to match my 10-22.
Also, the 5D uses AF sensor of 20D, so the AF point coverage is much
worse then 20D. The quality of 24-105L is not much better than my
17-85... with all these, I sold the 5D/24-105.

But I am still interested in FF body because portrait and landscape
are my major targets, and FF has an edge. If the next 5D can take
all the new improvements from the 40D, and has a AF sensor for FF, I
may upgrade again and keep the 20D for telephoto/sporty use.

But... I am sure I will be happy with a 40D upgrade.
 
The full frame is a great incentive to go for the 5D but the 5D has been out for quite sometime and is long due for another version. Probably something along the lines of 14mp and faster shutter speeds.

For that reason the 40D is better choice now and once the 5D comes out you can switch to that and use your 40D as backup or sell it.

L lens are definately worth getting. After you have bought an L lens its hard to get anything less. You will head down the path of more and more lens spending more money than you ever imagined.

I have been very pleased with the 40D so far. The crop is a bit annoying and I wish I had a full frame sensor many times. The lens that canon makes tend to be made for full frame. Seems like canon will never make a full frame camera that is affordable at this time because they have the xxD established and doing very well and 5D and 1Ds established already. Basically if you want to step up youll have to pay double or more...
 
You meant the Canon 17-55 2.8 IS lens.
I previously used a 20D and just picked up a 40D! THe 40D is
awesome, very nice camera indeed! If you decide to go with the 40D,
I suggest the 18-55mm f2.8 IS USM lens. This lens is pretty pricey
at around $1000 US, but it's worth the $$$. You won't be
disappointed!
 
The option I have finally come to is to have both. I have had great success with my 5D for landscapes and portraits. I have also had some problems with sensor dust on the 5D. I just received my 40D and find myself using both: 5D with the 24-105 IS L and the 40D with the 70-200 F4 IS L. This way I do not have to change lenses on my 5D and therefore reduce the sensor dust problem. This plus the reach with the 40D for birds or sports makes a great combo.
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Tom Grollman
 
I had the 5D + 24-70L but sold it last week, I now have a 40D + 17-55 IS, IQ is much the same but this combo is lighter and handles better plus I love the 10-22mm, much better than the 17-40L I used to have on my 5D, I also just got the Sigma 50-150 2.8 which is a great lens.
 
I debated the same thing myself. I was still using the 10D for professional work, and the 40D was the first xxD body that looked to be a decent step up. At the same time I wanted to move to full frame.

Eventually I decided to buy the 40D now, and upgrade to the new 5D which will no doubt have most if not all of the breakthrough features of the 40D, along with full frame.

The difference in money I've put into lenses that will outlast the next 5 generations of camera, and even longer - L zooms from 17 to 200, and primes from 50 to 100 for low light and macro. Having a 1.6 sensor alongside a full frame means I can use this range of lenses for everything from true wide angle to super telephoto without having to invest in seriously expensive telephoto lenses like the 400 or 500 f/4s.

Bodies come and go but lenses are forever - at least the best lenses are. No matter what fancy camera bodies the 'competition' can come up with, they can't use L lenses, so who cares :)

Good luck with your decision.
gL
 
If you shoot sports or a lot of tele, the edge goes to the 40D for its longer FOV and more frames per second. If you shoot mostly landscapes and portraits, the 5D is superb. The 24-105L IS stays on my 5D 95% of the time. Yes, L lenses usually give better contrast and color.
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Juli
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Canon FiveDee, Canon 4oD, Canon Gee3, Canon S7o, Fuji Eff30, Sony Hnine.

 

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