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Hi Guys, I just picked up a used D70 with only 4700 actuations. Mint condition. Takes great pics. Then I tried RAW. After downloading the files off the camera the NEF files are always corrupt. Photoshop gives end of file errors for every NEF file and no program can open them. Nikon view displays it fine. But Nikon Edit or Nikon Capture cannot open them. Camera is firmware A/B 2.00

Using Windows Vista Ultimate. Have CS3 with ACR 4.1, ACDSEE, Nikon Capture 4.2, Gimp with URAW all give corrupted file results. Only happens with NEF files and not JPG. It's driving me batty.
 
mikroft said:
Hi Guys, I just picked up a used D70 with only 4700 actuations.
Mint condition. Takes great pics. Then I tried RAW. After
downloading the files off the camera the NEF files are always
corrupt. Photoshop gives end of file errors for every NEF file and
no program can open them. Nikon view displays it fine. But Nikon
Edit or Nikon Capture cannot open them. Camera is firmware A/B 2.00
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Don't know Nikon View; is that displaying the small thumbnail, or the whole image?

If Nikon View displays the whole image, the file wouldn't be corrupt, something else would be the problem.

What is the size of the files? I have a D70 and my NEF files are around 5.1Mb, 5.2Mb.

Can you post a link to one of these corrupt NEF files? I'd be curious to see at what point the corruption takes place.

Eric
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The reason it works in Nikon View is because it only shows you the embedded JPEG. If you zoom in, it'll probably give you an error when it tries to read the raw data.

It's strange that it only affects NEFs though. How big are the files? Have you tried a different memory card? Have you tried shooting tethered though Nikon Capture Control?
mikroft said:
Hi Guys, I just picked up a used D70 with only 4700 actuations.
Mint condition. Takes great pics. Then I tried RAW. After
downloading the files off the camera the NEF files are always
corrupt. Photoshop gives end of file errors for every NEF file and
no program can open them. Nikon view displays it fine. But Nikon
Edit or Nikon Capture cannot open them. Camera is firmware A/B 2.00

Using Windows Vista Ultimate. Have CS3 with ACR 4.1, ACDSEE, Nikon
Capture 4.2, Gimp with URAW all give corrupted file results. Only
happens with NEF files and not JPG. It's driving me batty.
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Nikon View allows me to view the actual file because I can zoom in at 100% at full resolution with no corruption. Files are 5.2MB in size. I'm uploading one of the files to my ftp site. The corruption happens near the end of the image.
egrivel said:
mikroft said:
Hi Guys, I just picked up a used D70 with only 4700 actuations.
Mint condition. Takes great pics. Then I tried RAW. After
downloading the files off the camera the NEF files are always
corrupt. Photoshop gives end of file errors for every NEF file and
no program can open them. Nikon view displays it fine. But Nikon
Edit or Nikon Capture cannot open them. Camera is firmware A/B 2.00
Click to expand...
Don't know Nikon View; is that displaying the small thumbnail, or the
whole image?
If Nikon View displays the whole image, the file wouldn't be corrupt,
something else would be the problem.

What is the size of the files? I have a D70 and my NEF files are
around 5.1Mb, 5.2Mb.

Can you post a link to one of these corrupt NEF files? I'd be curious
to see at what point the corruption takes place.

Eric
--
http://www.lumenssolutions.com/photography/
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Nikon View shows the full file in 3008x2000 resolution and allows me full zoom control. I've tried 2 different sized/brand memory cards as well. Haven't tried Nikon capture control yet. Files are between 5.2-5.3mb
Thomas Comerford said:
It's strange that it only affects NEFs though. How big are the files?
Have you tried a different memory card? Have you tried shooting
tethered though Nikon Capture Control?
mikroft said:
Hi Guys, I just picked up a used D70 with only 4700 actuations.
Mint condition. Takes great pics. Then I tried RAW. After
downloading the files off the camera the NEF files are always
corrupt. Photoshop gives end of file errors for every NEF file and
no program can open them. Nikon view displays it fine. But Nikon
Edit or Nikon Capture cannot open them. Camera is firmware A/B 2.00

Using Windows Vista Ultimate. Have CS3 with ACR 4.1, ACDSEE, Nikon
Capture 4.2, Gimp with URAW all give corrupted file results. Only
happens with NEF files and not JPG. It's driving me batty.
Click to expand...
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http://www.pixelfixer.org
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The embedded 3008x2000 pixel JPEG thumbnail is indeed complete. I didn't know that the NEF included a full-size JPEG thumbnail, I thought it only had a small thumbnail.

Anyway, trying with dcraw it complains that the file is corrupted at offset 5039877; dcraw does indeed write an output file and the bottom part of that output file is garbled.

Have you tried resetting the camera? There are three ways to reset it (two-button reset, menu reset, and pressing the little pin at the bottom).

If that doesn't work, is it possible to re-upload the latest firmware? It should be possible to download that from the Nikon website somewhere. Updating firmware in and off itself should be relatively safe, as long as you make sure that you have a fully charged battery and follow the instructions carefully.

If that doesn't work either, I'm starting to run out of suggestions....

Eric
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http://www.lumenssolutions.com/photography/
 
On the Mac I can open the file without a problem in "Preview" (a kind of Swiss army knife app that will open just about everything from PDFs to NEFs and that comes with OS X), but I do see corruption at the bottom of the frame. In Aperture I can also open the file, and I see the same kind of corruption. I'm attaching a screenshot of the image as displayed by Aperture:



Sadly, I don't have the foggiest notion what to do about this. Perhaps it's time to put the question to Nikon's tech support.

Daniel
 
That's quite strange... Nikon View NX can indeed read the raw data, although the bottom of the image is corrupt. Nikon Capture 4 won't open it, and Capture NX just hangs.

For what it's worth, if you need to salvage any of the images you've taken you can use Pixel Fixer (see the link in my sig) to extract the JPEGs from them.
mikroft said:
Thomas Comerford said:
It's strange that it only affects NEFs though. How big are the files?
Have you tried a different memory card? Have you tried shooting
tethered though Nikon Capture Control?
mikroft said:
Hi Guys, I just picked up a used D70 with only 4700 actuations.
Mint condition. Takes great pics. Then I tried RAW. After
downloading the files off the camera the NEF files are always
corrupt. Photoshop gives end of file errors for every NEF file and
no program can open them. Nikon view displays it fine. But Nikon
Edit or Nikon Capture cannot open them. Camera is firmware A/B 2.00

Using Windows Vista Ultimate. Have CS3 with ACR 4.1, ACDSEE, Nikon
Capture 4.2, Gimp with URAW all give corrupted file results. Only
happens with NEF files and not JPG. It's driving me batty.
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pixelfixer.org
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pixelfixer.org
 
Daniel said:
On the Mac I can open the file without a problem in "Preview" (a kind
of Swiss army knife app that will open just about everything from
PDFs to NEFs and that comes with OS X), but I do see corruption at
the bottom of the frame. In Aperture I can also open the file, and I
see the same kind of corruption. I'm attaching a screenshot of the
image as displayed by Aperture:
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Actually, this is exactly the same result I get after processing with dcraw. I looked in the source of the dcraw program, to figure out what's going on. This happens during the uncompressing of the compressed RAW format; the value the algorithm gets is out of the valid range for that particular place in the decompression. I tried forcing the program to use a default value instead, hoping that on the next row the decompression would be in synch again, but that didn't help.

Have you tried shooting multiple photos in continuous mode? If the problem is with the buffer in the camera, shooting in continuous mode would have the second and third photo end up in a different place in the buffer memory, and something different would happen to them (either they are all garbled, or all OK). If on the other hand something is wrong elsewhere, the second and third photo would show the exact same error of file corruption towards the end.

You'll probably end up having to send it to Nikon either way, unless any of the resets or firmware update I suggested earlier helps. Or do without RAW altogether.

Eric
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http://www.lumenssolutions.com/photography/
 
Might seem strange but do you use a card reader to DL the files? I recently had similiar problems which seemed to be solved by moving to a different USB port.

Rob
 
Triumphant said:
Using the link, I tried to save it to disk. Was going to add a .tiff
extention, so I stopped the save.

Just a straight open started my quicktime program and showed a small
image of a car's instrument panel ...
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That's the small TIFF format thumbnail in the NEF file, which Nikon uses for thumbnail display. It appears at the start of the file, and is not corrupted.

Eric
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http://www.lumenssolutions.com/photography/
 
I download my images directly from the camera. Firmware has been upgraded and downgraded many times. Happens with multiple shots as well. Corruption is always at the bottom of the image.
 
mikroft said:
I download my images directly from the camera. Firmware has been
upgraded and downgraded many times. Happens with multiple shots as
well. Corruption is always at the bottom of the image.
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I'm baffled... Logically:
  • the sensor and hardware are OK, because the JPEG comes out correctly
  • the software was reloaded so that should be OK too
  • memory cards have been replaced so they should be OK
  • camera's buffer memory is not the problem since it happens whether the buffer is full or empty
What's left? USB cable problem? problem with your computer? Something has to be wrong, but what???

All I've left to say is, good luck with this. Maybe Nikon tech support can figure it out?

Eric
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http://www.lumenssolutions.com/photography/
 
Yeah guess that's the only option left. Cable is good as I've tried 2 of them and I've also tried 2 different computers as well.
egrivel said:
mikroft said:
I download my images directly from the camera. Firmware has been
upgraded and downgraded many times. Happens with multiple shots as
well. Corruption is always at the bottom of the image.
Click to expand...
I'm baffled... Logically:
  • the sensor and hardware are OK, because the JPEG comes out correctly
  • the software was reloaded so that should be OK too
  • memory cards have been replaced so they should be OK
  • camera's buffer memory is not the problem since it happens whether
the buffer is full or empty

What's left? USB cable problem? problem with your computer? Something
has to be wrong, but what???

All I've left to say is, good luck with this. Maybe Nikon tech
support can figure it out?

Eric
--
http://www.lumenssolutions.com/photography/
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Sorry to revive this old thread, but did you find a solution to this problem?

My good, old D70 started to have the exact same problem today. However, only intermittent. Turning the camera off and on sometimes restores the raw recording capability. But that doesn't help me, as there is no way I can tell if the problem is present or not (only with the camera). And I don't feel like bringing a PC everywhere I go with the camera.
 
Google helped me find this thread, and I would like to note that I too have been experiencing the same problems with my dear old D70. I'd like to hang on to my D70 for a while longer, until I can afford an upgrade, but the raw issue is starting to get frustrating. I've really gotten used to using a RAW workflow, so shooting in jpg just doesnt seem right.

My D70 has about the same number of actuations ( 5000), and records the imbedded jpegs perfectly. However, when I upload the files to my pc, about 1 in 20 seems to be corrupt. The corruption seems to "cluster" - 2 or 3 together in a group of 50 shots. If I switch to jpeg only, there are no problems. I've tried Nikon View and PS CS3/Lightroom 1.2, none of which can read the raw files. I have flashed and re-flashed the firmware (both currently at 2.0). Using different modes of transfer always results in the same files being corrupted, so I highly doubt that its a transfer issue.

Anybody have any ideas?
 
I am beginning to see the same thing with my D50 adn Elements. I delete the "corrupted" files and reload and they usually download. Today it took two times to download the RAW files. I thought it was the card but it was only the RAW files.
Weird.
gk
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'I'm not as smart today as I will be tomorrow.'
 
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