StevenD200
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took this shot with D200 + 18-200VR on my honeymoon
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Dear DJ Dunzie, Ok I understand to respect it's limits..
Thank you for your support and time and energy.
Your pictures are great and the blond girl's portrait
is a fine example of what it can do.All of them actually.
We are fellow 18-200er's and it is good to meet you.
I love this forum and all it's great people.
I hope for more people like yall in the world!
Sincerely
Jay
wrote:
Thank you for your support and time and energy.
Your pictures are great and the blond girl's portrait
is a fine example of what it can do.All of them actually.
We are fellow 18-200er's and it is good to meet you.
I love this forum and all it's great people.
I hope for more people like yall in the world!
Sincerely
Jay
wrote:
Unfortunately I don't have better examples available of that combo
right now sorry, but it's a capable one if you recognize the slight
limitations of a super-super-zoom lens.
D200 and 18-200VR:
D70s and 18-200VR:
Dear Steven,
Stunning image! Thank you!!!!!!!
Proud to be a D200 + 18-200VR owner.
Thank you for your reassurance ! Great proof !
Congrats on your marriage!
Best wishes and regards to you and your Family!
Sincerely
Jay
Stunning image! Thank you!!!!!!!
Proud to be a D200 + 18-200VR owner.
Thank you for your reassurance ! Great proof !
Congrats on your marriage!
Best wishes and regards to you and your Family!
Sincerely
Jay
took this shot with D200 + 18-200VR on my honeymoon
Steve Bingham
Veteran Member
If you shoot raw, you must use USM or other form of sharpening to overcome the gaussian blur incorporated with the built-in AA filter. If you shoot JPG this is done automatically for you in the camera. Does this look soft? (pic)
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Steve Bingham
http://www.dustylens.com
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Steve Bingham
http://www.dustylens.com
Thank's Ovrebekk!
Your examples are xlnt!
Your time is valueable.Thank you alot for what your work.
Very sharp.
Jay
Your examples are xlnt!
Your time is valueable.Thank you alot for what your work.
Very sharp.
Jay
I recently posted in a similar discussion, and i can assure you the
D200 is not soft.
The 18-200, on the other hand, is a different story. I havent tried
it but reportedly it is not the sharpest lens out there. And what can
you expect? I is a 11.1 X zoom after all
I also posted some samples from the D200, but not with the 18-200mm.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1039&message=24750350
Steve,
Ok ,That would have taken a long time for me to figure that out.I won't forget it.
Your shot shows a fine example.
I went to dustylens and thank you for that too!
I saw bobbie but where are you.
The surreal B&W you did is great too.
Thank you for everything
sincerely,
Jay
Ok ,That would have taken a long time for me to figure that out.I won't forget it.
Your shot shows a fine example.
I went to dustylens and thank you for that too!
I saw bobbie but where are you.
The surreal B&W you did is great too.
Thank you for everything
sincerely,
Jay
If you shoot raw, you must use USM or other form of sharpening to
overcome the gaussian blur incorporated with the built-in AA filter.
If you shoot JPG this is done automatically for you in the camera.
Does this look soft? (pic)
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Steve Bingham
http://www.dustylens.com
Randy, I love information like that.
It would have taken me for ever to
figure out to try flash without vr. I would have guessed it to be a camera falt.
the f8 tip makes total sence too!
Sincere thanks ,
Jay
It would have taken me for ever to
figure out to try flash without vr. I would have guessed it to be a camera falt.
the f8 tip makes total sence too!
Sincere thanks ,
Jay
Yes! Thank's for that reassurance Avi!
Sincerely,
Jay
Sincerely,
Jay
Is this sharp enough for you?
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AviBen
Mach Schnell
Veteran Member
These images should dissuade you from believing the D200 and 18-200VR can only shoot soft images.
Here is a shot of a tulip from our back yard:
And here is a 100% sample from the image:
Here is another from Disney World:
And one from northern Utah:
And Rocky Mtn Nat'l Park:
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Steve
Here is a shot of a tulip from our back yard:
And here is a 100% sample from the image:
Here is another from Disney World:
And one from northern Utah:
And Rocky Mtn Nat'l Park:
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Steve
Dear kocho,Your work speaks for it's "self"
You really are a great artist!
Thank you for you Help.
I am looking forward to getting my camera.
Thank you kocho!
Sincerely
Jay
You really are a great artist!
Thank you for you Help.
I am looking forward to getting my camera.
Thank you kocho!
Sincerely
Jay
Dear Justa,
Thank's for your time!
Raw all the way!
i won't rub your glass
if you don' rub mine
jland
cheers to you too!
Thank's for your time!
Raw all the way!
i won't rub your glass
if you don' rub mine
jland
cheers to you too!
Dear Glastoria,
Thank you for your email!
Ouch on soft!
Thay say, one every million or so coke bottle bottoms a optically perfect.
I hope I get lucky like that! sureeeeeeeee.Just kidding
Jay
Thank you for your email!
Ouch on soft!
Thay say, one every million or so coke bottle bottoms a optically perfect.
I hope I get lucky like that! sureeeeeeeee.Just kidding
Jay
Mach Schnell
Veteran Member
I put this chart together awhile ago to help define where the 18-200VR does well and where it is challenged. Basically, as another poster said, if you can shoot at f/8, you're good to go. The lens will do great. It is also very good wide open at wide angle (short) focal lengths.
On the long end, there seems to be a bit of variation from one lens to the next. Mine does pretty well on the long end. Here is a shot taken wide open at f/5.6 and 200mm with VR handheld:
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Steve
On the long end, there seems to be a bit of variation from one lens to the next. Mine does pretty well on the long end. Here is a shot taken wide open at f/5.6 and 200mm with VR handheld:
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Steve
Dear Mach Schnell,
Now that's what I'm talkin about!
You made my Day! The color and sharpness, "bouquet " move over 2 1/4.
Your examples , XLNT!!!!!!!
I am gratefull for the time and effort you
have put into proveing the myth to be wrong.
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't wait to get my paws on the d200 and 18-200vr
Best regards,
Jay Land
Now that's what I'm talkin about!
You made my Day! The color and sharpness, "bouquet " move over 2 1/4.
Your examples , XLNT!!!!!!!
I am gratefull for the time and effort you
have put into proveing the myth to be wrong.
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't wait to get my paws on the d200 and 18-200vr
Best regards,
Jay Land
These images should dissuade you from believing the D200 and 18-200VR
can only shoot soft images.
Here is a shot of a tulip from our back yard:
And here is a 100% sample from the image:
Here is another from Disney World:
And one from northern Utah:
And Rocky Mtn Nat'l Park:
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Steve
Hokum
Veteran Member
Its actually rather hard...
I wouldnt drop it on my bare feet... even with the 18-200mm...
As for the 18-200 i couldnt say as i dont have one.
The D200 though is not soft by any means.
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http://paulgibbs.fotoblog.co.uk/
I wouldnt drop it on my bare feet... even with the 18-200mm...
As for the 18-200 i couldnt say as i dont have one.
The D200 though is not soft by any means.
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http://paulgibbs.fotoblog.co.uk/
Nice shot but why has that man got a dead animal on his head?If you shoot raw, you must use USM or other form of sharpening to
overcome the gaussian blur incorporated with the built-in AA filter.
If you shoot JPG this is done automatically for you in the camera.
Does this look soft? (pic)
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Steve Bingham
http://www.dustylens.com
You are an amazeing person to do this chart for us!
What a breath of fresh air you and this forum are!
I guess i watch too much news
Gratitude !
Best regards.
I will post a site with my work as soon as I get my camera tomorrow i will begin shooting.
Only pioneer's go above and beyond like you for putting that chart together.
If you were my family I would be proud of you for your efforts!
This fourm feels like a great family! No wonder i'm proud.
Sincerely
Jay land
What a breath of fresh air you and this forum are!
I guess i watch too much news
Gratitude !
Best regards.
I will post a site with my work as soon as I get my camera tomorrow i will begin shooting.
Only pioneer's go above and beyond like you for putting that chart together.
If you were my family I would be proud of you for your efforts!
This fourm feels like a great family! No wonder i'm proud.
Sincerely
Jay land
I put this chart together awhile ago to help define where the
18-200VR does well and where it is challenged. Basically, as another
poster said, if you can shoot at f/8, you're good to go. The lens
will do great. It is also very good wide open at wide angle (short)
focal lengths.
On the long end, there seems to be a bit of variation from one lens
to the next. Mine does pretty well on the long end. Here is a shot
taken wide open at f/5.6 and 200mm with VR handheld:
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Steve
The D200 is not soft, but it has a stronger anti-aliasing filter than some cameras, and so if you examine images at 100% (pixel peep) you will see a very slight softness compared to a camera with equivalent pixel count, and no AA filter. Compare the resolution tests on this site, and you will see a very small difference between the D200, the Sony A100 and the Canon 400D.
It seems that some fanatical pixel peepers have no concept of proportion.
The chances are that your sensor will be outresolving that lens anyway!
Dear Hokum,
Steel toe boots and a sak lunch huh! OK!
Your work is beautiful! thank you for your reassurance about the d200.
Very sharp work!
best regards,
Jay land
Steel toe boots and a sak lunch huh! OK!
Your work is beautiful! thank you for your reassurance about the d200.
Very sharp work!
best regards,
Jay land
Its actually rather hard...
I wouldnt drop it on my bare feet... even with the 18-200mm...
As for the 18-200 i couldnt say as i dont have one.
The D200 though is not soft by any means.
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http://paulgibbs.fotoblog.co.uk/
RJSPhotography
Veteran Member
try to avoid in camera sharpening. Shoot in raw and during processing sharpen selectively with either noise ninja or neat image. Both great sharpening programs.
Cheers
Ron
Cheers
Ron
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