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Canon EOS 40D Review!!!!

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Taikonaut said:
Michael Anburaj said:
While I appreciate the effort, there are some aspects that should be
taken with a grain of salt.

Typically, the cost comparison between D300, 40D & D80 & buyer’s notion.

Street price (US) today for these cameras are:
D80 - $899
40D - $1299
D300 - $1799

D80 to 40D is about 44% increase in price (or) $400 increase
40D to D300 is about 38% increase in price (or) $500 increase

But the reviewer has present it as D80 to 40D to be almost 50%
increase in price & between 40D & D300 to be 1/3rd or 30% increase in
price.

Does this sound little biased towards Nikon?
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Indeed. Also have you noticed the reviewer when referring to the
competition he only commented on about the LCD and focusing
superiority of Nikon but made no mention of the important 40D
advantages. I think he was sold by Nikon's marketing hype, his middle
name should be "lemming":)

Well by the time the D300 come out in november the price of the 40D
would be about $999 and you are looking at about 80% price different.
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I´m leaving it open still, if he´s biased or not, got that feeling too!

But if you read the Nikon-body preview, I think all he mentions of the competition is the pro´s of the 40D, he doesn´t say anything about the cons of it..

I think ultimately, you´ll se in the gradings (Imagequality 9.0, Build 8.0) will reveal this.. :)

It would be really sad to be biased when having such a review-site..
Still he moans A LOT about lcd-screen resolution!! lol

What´s the deal about fps on these screens by the way?

Read somewhere that it differs to Canons pro, dunno if this was just bull though!?

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Sorry for bad spelling! :)

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subdoodle said:
views that you can't switch...then they don't need to innovate at
all. Merely mete out those improvements that suit their needs.

Look at the high iso performance of the non-canons right now, recent
bodies. Compare them to the Canon's of just a few years ago. They
are better than Canon back then.

How come if Canon was good enough now, that those other brands that
are at or close in high iso yet often better in other ways don't rate
serious attention?

I think it's because some "need" to feel like they have the dominant
choice, the safe choice that will go unchallenged in the forums.

The trouble is the ISO thing is all but solved at this point. So
other things matter more and more. That is part of the stress some
seem to feel...that they cannot get what the other companies provide
all the time, things besides high iso.

Unless Canon makes a a large change in their POV, their upcoming
offerings are likely to be incremental just like we have seen.

I hope that Canon responds to the competition as soon as they can -
it will be good for everyone.
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Well stated! I almost switched to Canon (30D) from the A-mount, but waited for the 40D because I thought it would be a big improvement. But like you said, it is incremental and they even downgraded the sharpness of the LCD from the 30D. I'll take a sharp 2.5" LCD over a fuzzy 3" LCD any day. A few weeks ago, I thought Canon was the best, now I think Nikon is and will overtake Canon swiftly unless they wake up. Why doesn't Canon put in-body IS in the 40D? Canon makes no less than 60 lenses that do not have IS, so putting it in the body makes a lot of sense from a marketing point of view. And why did Canon come out with a "cheapo" version of their perfectly good in-lens IS? It seems Canon is cost cutting rather than building quality products these days. I think it will cost Canon their Brand Value in the long run.
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FPS is the rate in which the display shows motion. A 15fps as seen in the D300 live view will show delays resulting in ghosting. If something is moving and you use live view to track and focus it is not as nice and can be confusing, ie sports.

30 fps as in the 40D gives a smoother video display allow more predictable focussing on live view.
 
Taikonaut said:
The reviewer made a huge fuss about the LCD resolution of the D300
and A700 being 4 times that of the 40D, this is something that make
no different to image quality, yet live histogram, something that
DOES make a different to image quality was not mentioned specifically
as a feature the 40D has over the competition. Go figure!

Live histogram has been around on a number of P&S it is not something
that one can ignore especially now it is on a dSLR which is very
important.
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Yep, I agree this is very usefull.

My point just was this review is evidently made in a big hurry, and thus at least I do not expect all the goodies listed. I guess the "number games" like the megapixels, AF ppoints and LCD pixels are just too easy to advertice.
 
ohyva said:
Taikonaut said:
The reviewer made a huge fuss about the LCD resolution of the D300
and A700 being 4 times that of the 40D, this is something that make
no different to image quality, yet live histogram, something that
DOES make a different to image quality was not mentioned specifically
as a feature the 40D has over the competition. Go figure!

Live histogram has been around on a number of P&S it is not something
that one can ignore especially now it is on a dSLR which is very
important.
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Yep, I agree this is very usefull.

My point just was this review is evidently made in a big hurry, and
thus at least I do not expect all the goodies listed. I guess the
"number games" like the megapixels, AF ppoints and LCD pixels are
just too easy to advertice.
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Having a live histogram saves buying a lightmeter which can be less practicle to use compared to in camera. Sekonic charges $400 for a decent one. If you shoot outdoors in daylight it a no brainer, live histogram is the way to go just as if not more important than AF, ISO, WB, etc. On the video posted on youtube the reviewer gave only a passing mention of this important feature and none of its advantages which shows either he is ignorant or that he is easily persuaded by marketing spin comming from Nikon.
 
It's an interesting time for amateur togs at the moment.

Inbody IS: I don't think Canon (or Nikon) will adopt this into a higher end dslr in the forseeable future. Possibly in the lower end models but not the higher end.

I think the D300 is looking good at the moment but the lack of decent sample images is a bit odd. The camera is either nowhere near production (in which case we won't see one on a shelf this year) or they are having problems getting decent images from it. Time will tell.

Meanwhile the 40D is selling like hot cakes. For all their faults, Canon is very slick when it comes to getting machines onto shelves.

16-105 Sony lens is interesting. Are there any in users hands yet?
 
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Taikonaut said:
The reviewer has typically fallen into the the nutshell attitude oft
he marketing garbage. Nikon is good at manipulating these "great
unwashed".
There is no mention about live view comparison between the new models
and the pitfall of the drop in frame rate of the D300. There is
mention about assumingly superior focusing ofthe D300 but no mention
about live histogram in the 40D. Also only 2.5 fps in 14 bit mode of
the D300 compare to 6.5 fps on the 40D.
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How about this (from the 40D white paper): Also, when [High ISO speed noise reduction] is set, the maximum burst during continuous shooting will decrease to 8, regardless of the image-recording quality.
 
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