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The image was taken at 1/60s of the guy playing the trumpet the focus is on his hands which are moving, but I can see the lashes under his left eye and the small blemishes / bumps on his face, and his mustache stubble. What the heck ISO 6400 night club style image are you comparing it to that your complaining about the detail?
mpixel said:
Thanks for posting.

Low noise but low detail too at ISO 3200 and 6400. Too much NR.

I do like the samples though. Manufacturers images are often really
quite poor.

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I think that whoever shot these had sharpening turned off in the camera. Nikon does not want "oversharpened" images, but these images do great with a little USM in NX.

ISO 400 on the D3 is as clean as ISO 100 on my D2Xs. And there is no chroma noise whatsoever at ISO 3200. Very nice.

When you can shoot indoors in a club at 1/160th @ f/5.6, well, what can I say?

Time for a second mortgage. :)

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I'm sorry but even the 3200 ISO image lacks detail. Both high ISO images have low noise but lack detail.

If it isn't immediately apparent to you that the 3200 ISO image lacks detail, please compare it to the lower ISO images of the model.
sfisher said:
mpixel said:
Thanks for posting.

Low noise but low detail too at ISO 3200 and 6400. Too much NR.

I do like the samples though. Manufacturers images are often really
quite poor.

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JasonOdell said:
I think that whoever shot these had sharpening turned off in the
camera. Nikon does not want "oversharpened" images, but these images
do great with a little USM in NX.

ISO 400 on the D3 is as clean as ISO 100 on my D2Xs. And there is no
chroma noise whatsoever at ISO 3200. Very nice.

When you can shoot indoors in a club at 1/160th @ f/5.6, well, what
can I say?

Time for a second mortgage. :)
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LOL! Just sell the D2Xs.
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I agree with you Jason.

You mean there are apertures beyond 2.8?!?

I've shot thousands of musician shots-this is scaring me. 160 at 5.6???? I'm looking at these at 200% and his face still looks good. The dark areas still hold up fairly well without all of shadow/blotchy noise typical of these shots.

I think that I noticed a problem though on the shot of the women in the church(?) at iso 400. If you zoom in at 800% (sorry but my browser won't let me go any higher) on her eye there is a disturbing purple hue around her pupil... .CA? Contact aberration?

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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=24741852

1D Mark III ISO 3200:
http://pic.eo2u.com/photo.php?action-showphoto-uid-11-pid-88887.html

1D Mark III ISO 6400:
http://pic.eo2u.com/photo.php?action-showphoto-uid-11-pid-88888.html

Not comparable, but take your pick.
mpixel said:
Thanks for posting.

Low noise but low detail too at ISO 3200 and 6400. Too much NR.

I do like the samples though. Manufacturers images are often really
quite poor.

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it could very well be due to a poor (or undeveloped) jpg engine :)
sfisher said:
echelon2004 said:
noise control and dynamic range seems to be good.

CA control seems very good.

But where's the detail? Maybe two layers of microlenses and an AA
filter stripped to much of the resolving power...

Or maybe the jpg engine sucks, so better wait for proper files to
evaluate :)
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I don't know I'm looking at picture "pic005b.jpg" the focus point is
on her chin, and I can see the peach fuzz hairs on he chin and the
contact lens in her right eye. And it is a JPEG using the standard
picture control settings.
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Usually you lose about 25-30% of the theoretical maximum resolution due to AA filters and other things (those other things, which are unknown to me, causes the Leica M8 to lose 10% despite not having a AA filter)

I bet Phil will show that you lose about 40-45% on the D3 when shooting jpg...
say 1900lph and 1850 lph...
sfisher said:
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I hadn't seen that link but I think that Eric Sorensen is right. Between the 5D, 1D Mk III and the D3 the 5D has the best mix of low noise and detail.

I think that this is the image that he took the crop from:

http://www.pbase.com/ericsorensen/image/68303598

Anyway I wasn't comparing the D3 directly to other cameras in my original post but I was noting the lack of detail at high ISO. It will be interesting to see how it performs with NR Off and also in side-by-side tests.
David Chin said:
1D Mark III ISO 3200:
http://pic.eo2u.com/photo.php?action-showphoto-uid-11-pid-88887.html

1D Mark III ISO 6400:
http://pic.eo2u.com/photo.php?action-showphoto-uid-11-pid-88888.html

Not comparable, but take your pick.
mpixel said:
Thanks for posting.

Low noise but low detail too at ISO 3200 and 6400. Too much NR.

I do like the samples though. Manufacturers images are often really
quite poor.

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would be my guess
 
I didn't even notice that there was no macro shot but looking at the 200 ISO images I'd say that low ISO performance and resolution is pretty good.
Doc Hudson said:
I never go above ISO 800, when there's not enough light, I use flash/ :)
Naoki Takagaki said:
Hi,

Thought you guys might want tho check this link:

http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d3/sample.htm

Naoki
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I said perhaps. I need to use the D3 and make my own exposures using the same lens on the D3 and my D1H and both camers set at ISO 6400 and allother thigs set equal like shooting in NEF.

The same scene shot at the same time and with the same lens at ISO 6400 with both cameras. Only problem is that the D3 is FF sensor and D1H is a 1.5 crop sensor. But this kind of test is the best I can do.

So far the colors seem to shift for the D3 at ISO6400 at night much the same as the D1H colors shift. This is not a problem either.

Reason tells me the D3 will perform better at ISO 6400 after all there is almost 5 years of technology improvements between these two Nikon DSLR's.
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