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I purchased one and was surprised at how soft and how much CA it had especially considering it was around the edges on a DX sensor.

If you're looking for full frame, try one. Maybe you'll get a better copy than I did. If you're looing for a DX model Nikon, try the 12-24 and compare the two at 14mm, especially stopped down.

Happy hunting,

Howard
 
I had the Nikkor 12-24 and I still have the Sigma 10-20 but the Nikkor 14mm 2.8 is by far the better lens. It is really vivid, contrasty and sharp. I have to really pixel peep to find any CA.

I love it. Gonna look nice on my D3.

garry
 
Actually, Nikon says the new 14-24mm f2.8 lens is better than the older 14mm prime. It's also not that much more considering you also have a 18, 20 and 24mm f2.8 at the same time, and every single focal length in between.
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Chris, Broussard, LA
 
Nikon is claiming their new 14-24 is to be compared with their primes....

Now...we all know talk is cheap...but with this new wave of cameras....and how strong a performer they are....you might want to wait till tests are completed and see if the claim holds true.

If it does...that would be ONE heck of a killer setup.

If it dosnt....your no worse for the wear.

Just a suggestion.

Roman
Steffan Mamcillan said:
I'm selling my Sigma 12-24 after only 4 months of usage and want a FF
super wide prime, anyone with experience of the Nikon 14mm?

I want it mainly for landscape work.

Regards Steffan

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cadman95 said:
I had the Nikkor 12-24 and I still have the Sigma 10-20 but the
Nikkor 14mm 2.8 is by far the better lens. It is really vivid,
contrasty and sharp. I have to really pixel peep to find any CA.

I love it. Gonna look nice on my D3.

garry
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Funny coincidence.

If you look at Sigma 10-20 and 14mm mtf and CA figures from photozone tests at f5.6, the performance is closer to identical than practically any other lens.
But if you think there's such a big difference...
 
RomanJohnston said:
Nikon is claiming their new 14-24 is to be compared with their
primes....

Now...we all know talk is cheap...but with this new wave of
cameras....and how strong a performer they are....you might want to
wait till tests are completed and see if the claim holds true.

If it does...that would be ONE heck of a killer setup.

If it dosnt....your no worse for the wear.

Just a suggestion.
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I agree. On a d3, then the 14-24 is going to be the #1 killer lens. With the 17-35 already a great lens, I doubt Nikon would be making the 14-24 unless it was going to really and truly be "the business". But for Dx, I can think of many better ways to spend $1800.
 
I shoot with a 17-35 on a D2x all the time. I hardely ever ever need wider than 17 on DX and more often than not I find 35mm on DX too short (weddings).

Going to a D3 I am a little concerned about going wider again and the 17-35 may no longer suite me.

I own a 14mm and love it, but is it a lens I rarely use and the mind bogges a bit how wide it will be on a D3... (actually I know how wide as I can mount in on my F601). I think it is one I will use more for IR on my convered D100.

On the other hand I am really looking forward to my 85 1.4 not being so tight, I love that lens so much and want to be able to use it in more confined locations with FF.
 
The 14-24mm f2.8 is designed to work with a FF digital sensor. The 14mm f2.8 lens is not. You should get better image quality and less CA with the new zoom and no worries about vignetting which I would expect with the 14mm f2.8 prime at its f2.8 setting ( though you probably will never shoot at f2.8 for architectural work.

Another lens to consider is the Nikon 28mm PC lens. Manual focus but that should not matter for your intended purpose for the D3.
 
cadman95 said:
I had the Nikkor 12-24 and I still have the Sigma 10-20 but the
Nikkor 14mm 2.8 is by far the better lens. It is really vivid,
contrasty and sharp. I have to really pixel peep to find any CA.

I love it. Gonna look nice on my D3.

garry
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cadman95:

I am looking forward to using my Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 lens on a Nikon FX DSLR, such as D3, too, :-)

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montereyphoto said:
The 14-24mm f2.8 is designed to work with a FF digital sensor. The
14mm f2.8 lens is not. You should get better image quality and less
CA with the new zoom and no worries about vignetting which I would
expect with the 14mm f2.8 prime at its f2.8 setting ( though you
probably will never shoot at f2.8 for architectural work.

Another lens to consider is the Nikon 28mm PC lens. Manual focus but
that should not matter for your intended purpose for the D3.
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montereyphoto:

The link below, has what Ken Rockwell, says about the Nikkor 14-24mm lens, as well as some comments he makes about the current Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 fixed lens (and a Canon fixed 14mm lens, he also owns):

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/14-24mm.htm
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BRJR ....(LOL, some of us are quite satisfied as Hobbyists ..)

 
Garry,

I mentioned I may have had a bad copy because it happens. I hear the same about the 12-24, but apparently I have a good copy of that.

I did extensive shooting with both at the same time, same lighting, same subject, etc.. I only tested the 12-24 set on 14mm and I ran the entire aperture range. The subject was a good test for the type of things you would use this lens for. No one was more disappointed than myself in the results. Someday, if I need FF, I may try another copy. For now the 12-24 I have is a great lens if care is taken to hold it correctly and not to shoot in to problem lighting. It's like any WA lens. If you don't hold it level and tend to point up or down you will have more problems with it.

Howard
 
Chris, Glad you reminded me. After I did my comparison, I called Nikon. Now, first I have to say I take everything they say with a grain of salt. Sometimes you get a well thought out answer and sometimes you get the most off hand, frustrating remarks that it make one wonder if they even read the question.

Anyway, after my comparison, I wrote Nikon to see if it was worth trying another copy immediately and they told me the same thing they told you. The 12-24 is a better lens with much less CA. I have no idea if that is true across every copy of either lens, but for now it's good enough for me.

Howard
 
hence is designed for FF. It's not a DX lens so I could only shudder at what the CA would have been on a FF sensor. Again, we're talking about the copy I had.

BTW, the 14mm f/2.8 AFd was introduced June 29th 2000.

Howard
 
I also use and love and the 17-35 mmf2.8 on a full rame dSLR currentlly, and have done so over the last year - namely the canon 5D. I have found it to be a magnificent Full Frame lens, and look forward to the thought of being able to use it without the adapter ring on a nikon ! (Auto-aperature and autofocus will be nice though AF is certainly less crucial for landscape work)

I should point out that, since we have been llimited to a "DX Nikon world" for the most part, many 17-35 lens's have ended up being sold off used, as the DX shooters traded up to the 17-55 lens which of course has added reach on a DX camera. I would expect that the residual supply of used, good quality 17-35 f2.8s would soon dry up with the release of the D3 so...
 
Steffan Mamcillan said:
I'm selling my Sigma 12-24 after only 4 months of usage and want a FF
super wide prime, anyone with experience of the Nikon 14mm?
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It was designed for the D1 and doesn't produce good image quality on my D200. I got rid of it, a costly mistake to buy one in the first place.

I don't know how it would work on a FF DSLR; I guess you just have to wait and see.
Steffan Mamcillan said:
I want it mainly for landscape work.
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pretty extreme angle if you ask me. How about using a fish-eye instead?
 
So you expect only minor vignetting from a super-wide zoom at f2.8? You might be slightly disappointed...

The Nikon 14mm is just as FF designed as the new zoom.
montereyphoto said:
The 14-24mm f2.8 is designed to work with a FF digital sensor. The
14mm f2.8 lens is not. You should get better image quality and less
CA with the new zoom and no worries about vignetting which I would
expect with the 14mm f2.8 prime at its f2.8 setting ( though you
probably will never shoot at f2.8 for architectural work.

Another lens to consider is the Nikon 28mm PC lens. Manual focus but
that should not matter for your intended purpose for the D3.
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14mm on full frame is REALLY wide. I have a Sigma 14/3.5 that I used to use occasionally with my F100. It was so wide as to not be very useful. If you used your Sigma with digital, it wasn't as wide as a 14 would be on the D3.

Personally, I found the Nikon 17-35 to be a great range on film and I expect it will be great on the D3.
 
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