Epson R360 printing too dark - please help, thanks.

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When I print with my epson R360 the prints are coming out consistently darker than the screen rendition. On screen photographs look well exposed, but when printed look underexposed. I've recently got a new monitor and have calibrated it correctly so I don't think the monitor's the issue as photographs that I have printed prior to its purchase are also suffering the same fate. I've tried a number of different versions of photoshop and have also tried Epson's own PhotoQuicker software and the results are all the same.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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recently got a new monitor and have calibrated it correctly so I
don't think the monitor's the issue as photographs that I have
Have the monitored calibrated does not necessarily mean that the prints will match the screen. You also need to have correct viewing conditions.

As a quick check, does the white on the paper match the white on the screen?
 
But I suspect that your monitor calibration is in fact the problem. LCD monitors are normally very and overly bright and what you are looking at is a monitor that is too bright and viewing your prints in front of the monitor and thus they do not match. Check your monitor calibration and post what the White Luminance was set to during the calibration if your monitor calibration will give you that information. With some calibrators you can target a specified white luminance, some wont do this but will tell you how it comes out after calibration. If you can do that, post your white luminance figures (should appear as a number xxx) cd/m2 and also post what your calibrator make and model is.

Bob
When I print with my epson R360 the prints are coming out
consistently darker than the screen rendition. On screen photographs
look well exposed, but when printed look underexposed. I've
recently got a new monitor and have calibrated it correctly so I
don't think the monitor's the issue as photographs that I have
printed prior to its purchase are also suffering the same fate. I've
tried a number of different versions of photoshop and have also tried
Epson's own PhotoQuicker software and the results are all the same.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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http://www.mark-reed.co.uk
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Bob
 
Thanks for all your advice but how do you explain the photographs that previously printed correctly exposed now printing too dark?
Bob
When I print with my epson R360 the prints are coming out
consistently darker than the screen rendition. On screen photographs
look well exposed, but when printed look underexposed. I've
recently got a new monitor and have calibrated it correctly so I
don't think the monitor's the issue as photographs that I have
printed prior to its purchase are also suffering the same fate. I've
tried a number of different versions of photoshop and have also tried
Epson's own PhotoQuicker software and the results are all the same.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--



http://www.mark-reed.co.uk
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Bob
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http://www.mark-reed.co.uk
 
What I'm saying is that files that previously printed fine are now printing too dark. That can't possibly be anything to do with the monitor.
Thanks for all your advice but how do you explain the photographs
that previously printed correctly exposed now printing too dark?
Are your new prints now darker than prints previously made? Or are
you saying that new prints made from the old images are darker than
the screen?
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http://www.mark-reed.co.uk
 
But you did not really answer Dominic's question. What he wanted to know was if you had compared your old print which you made when you had a prior monitor to the new print which you made with this monitor, side by side. In other words take the prints into a different light, daylight or anything away from you monitor/computer and compare them to your new print, side by side, bet they are the same.

And yes the monitor can make a difference which is why Dominic asked the question he did. The only thing you changed, according to your oriignal post, was the monitor and I suspect that is exactly the reason you are having a problem. Another way you can compare is to take your old print and hold it in front of your monitor, and bet the old print now looks too dark too. Our eyes play funny tricks on us when we try to compare one image created with transmitted light and another using reflected light partiall from the same source and partially from an ambient source. If you monitor is too bright, your picture will appear too dark. Either the ambient light in the room has to be substantially increased, or the white luminance of the monitor has to be substantially reduced. The reason that I am so sure the monitor is your problem is because that is the only thing changed in your system if I remember correctly. This problem would be particularly true if your old monitor was a CRT and your new monitor was an LCD because they are inherently much much brighter than a CRT. CRT monitors can hardly get enough white luminance as they grow older, whereas LCDs are usually by nature three or four times brigher at their brightest. For instance my CRT would never, even when new, hardly get to a white luminance above 100 cd/m2. An LCD monitor in most cases will top 300 cd/m2.

I really think I am correct on your problem, unless you carefully check your old prints side by side in a different light and there is then the difference that you speak about.

Bob
Thanks for all your advice but how do you explain the photographs
that previously printed correctly exposed now printing too dark?
Are your new prints now darker than prints previously made? Or are
you saying that new prints made from the old images are darker than
the screen?
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http://www.mark-reed.co.uk
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Bob
 
have you changed your photoshop settings ?
i had the same problem till i changed photoshop settings to no colour management
cheers john
 
When I print with my epson R360 the prints are coming out
consistently darker than the screen rendition. On screen photographs
look well exposed, but when printed look underexposed. I've
recently got a new monitor and have calibrated it correctly ...
Are you using an LCD monitor?

If so, check how sensitive "brightness" is to viewing angle. Just move your head up and down. Do you notice significant changes in "brightness"? If you do, then you have to remember that the monitor was calibrated based on a specific viewing point on the screen and a specific viewing angle for that point (usually perpendicular). For LCDs with serious sensitivity to viewing angle, you have to be careful to position your eyes to match the viewing angle of the profile when making critical decisions about color/tone. Indeed, for extremely sensitive LCD screens, you even have to position the image on the screen so the part of the image you are evaluating is located at the "profiled point". The same topic is discussed in a thread about the Epson 2400.
 

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