New iMac screen not only Glossy, it is low end TN LCD.

suneohair · Aug 20, 2007

I would have to pass on that notion. Number one the 20" ACD is overpriced. My plan is to wait for the next Mac Pro update and hook that up to my 2 24" LGs which are lovely.

Admittedly I never planned on getting an iMac. But with the glossy display, and then adding a second display to be able to do work is a solution I would pass on.

PaoloC · Aug 20, 2007

Today I've tested your image on a new iMac 20": no flickering.

bobk · Aug 21, 2007

I'm not sure what panel they're using in the new 24"; my guess is that it's a mid-range PVA/MVA type. But it's defintiely NOT a TN panel; I tried mine paired with some TN's that I have, and the difference is noticeable. Both viewing angle and color depth are noticeably different. Even in the store, you can see teh differences, if you know what to look for.

But while the panel in the 24" may not be as good as the old S-IPS panels, it seems fine for all but the most exacting use.

Those 24" white refurbs at Apple's store seem like a pretty good deal, though.

Personally, I think the glossy/matte issue is negligible compared to getting a decent panel.

Ronald C504794 · Aug 22, 2007

To ChristerK,

I downloaded your interesting, patterned image, but am not sure what behaviour one is supposed to see. I'm viewing the image on my MacBook. If I leave the image still, there's absolutely no flickering. But if I shake it about on the screen (that is holding the image window by the top bar and moving the mouse back and forth), the image flickers dramatically. Does this mean my Macbook monitor is "6 bit/FRC" or true 8 bit?

ChristerK said:
Speaking of FRC...

For a laugh, I decided to create an image to see if I could tell if
the two LCD panels I have access to were 8 bit or 6bit+FRC.

Just in case you're interested, here's the image I used:

Peter G · Aug 22, 2007

Ronald C said:
I downloaded your interesting, patterned image, but am not sure what
behaviour one is supposed to see. I'm viewing the image on my
MacBook. If I leave the image still, there's absolutely no
flickering. But if I shake it about on the screen (that is holding
the image window by the top bar and moving the mouse back and forth),
the image flickers dramatically. Does this mean my Macbook monitor is
"6 bit/FRC" or true 8 bit?

Looks closely on my TN screen it doesn't flicker so much as there is crawl motion in the pixels it is a bit subtle.

Whether you see it or not, Your MacBook certainly does have a TN screen and it is almost certainly a 6bit plus dither screen.

Sadhu · Aug 24, 2007

ditto. I won't order the new one unless it comes with an option for non-reflective and of a similar quality as the previous iMac. Pitty because I was going to buy one for a second family computer ... until I learned of the new "marketing" direction. I've been down the reflective screen road before and I've learned that it doesn't suit me ... or my living environment.

Which is to say ... If you can be happy with it, I'm glad for all you that can be happy with it. I know that I won't be, so the purchase was ruled out.

BRJR · Aug 25, 2007

saaketham1 said:
Spent 25 mins staring at the new iMacs ... wishing I'd like them, so
I could get the latest technology for $1199. Nope ... kept comparing
the screen to the old iMac on the opposite side of the store. I
think Apple grew tired of moving forward and thought ... lets not go
with the flow, lets go back a couple of steps.

Anil

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BRJR · Aug 25, 2007

Adalsteinn Hjelm said:
Just checked out the new iMac, needless to say, the new monitor is
plain horrible.

Going for the older 24" version.

Do your homework next time Apple!

Regards, Adalsteinn

Adalsteinn Hjelm:

I am a serious Apple Fan; but, still whenever I visit the local Apple Store, it looks more like the "Mac Donald's" of The Computer Word to me. This is great for homes and schools ------- but, for trying to win over Businesses, I don't think so.

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ohtoberich · Aug 28, 2007

When I view this image, it looks like a ball on the 6 bit + FRC panels, while it looks smoother on 8 bit panels.

The image is from this site:

http://www.behardware.com/articles/606-4/test-influence-electronique-couleurs-lcd.html

frobertv · Aug 28, 2007

my friends have a glossy Macbook pro. I haven't. Now when we look at our photos from the holidays we get their Macbook, who wants to look at the dull images when they can scream from the screen as if the photos had been taken by a ten times more expensive camera.

I am upgrading to glossy, my matte screen simply does no longer satisfy me. Really funny to see all the first time buyers and nonowner cry over the best thing ever since screens became flat.

I am waiting to buy a Cinema display for my matte Macbook pro untill the new glossy ones come out. I wish there where rumors already, seems a long wait but I am sure not to spend a dime on anything else then glossy. Take a good look at your iPhoto library and then see it the glossy way. Ten times better. No one of my friends with glossy screens ever complains even though they where very sceptical when they went to the store.

Happy to see Apple is moving ahead, otherwise I would still be using the arrow keys to move my cursor.

Conchita · Aug 28, 2007

frobertv said:
who wants to look at the dull images when they can scream from the screen

Uh, people who print their work, maybe?

eyeonwinnipeg184457 · Aug 28, 2007

you must be a lowly consumer photographer and not a real pro. what a shame

frobertv said:
my friends have a glossy Macbook pro. I haven't. Now when we look at
our photos from the holidays we get their Macbook, who wants to look
at the dull images when they can scream from the screen as if the
photos had been taken by a ten times more expensive camera.

I am upgrading to glossy, my matte screen simply does no longer
satisfy me. Really funny to see all the first time buyers and
nonowner cry over the best thing ever since screens became flat.

I am waiting to buy a Cinema display for my matte Macbook pro untill
the new glossy ones come out. I wish there where rumors already,
seems a long wait but I am sure not to spend a dime on anything else
then glossy. Take a good look at your iPhoto library and then see it
the glossy way. Ten times better. No one of my friends with glossy
screens ever complains even though they where very sceptical when
they went to the store.

Happy to see Apple is moving ahead, otherwise I would still be using
the arrow keys to move my cursor.

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mitlu · Sep 2, 2007

ChristerK said:
Would be interesting to see some specs on the 24" panel as well.

According to the german IT Magazine "Ct" (which is considered kind of "geeky" and verry reliable), the 24" screen is a S-IPS. They say the 24"-panel is very bright and unevenly lit tough...

CJ · Sep 10, 2007

anyone knows if the Apple cinema display 20" is 8 or 6 bit depth ?
it uses the FRC too ?

thanks

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Peter G · Sep 10, 2007

CJ said:
anyone knows if the Apple cinema display 20" is 8 or 6 bit depth ?
it uses the FRC too ?

All the ACDs are Full 8bit S-IPS based screens, the best type you can get.

CJ · Sep 10, 2007

thanks for the detail.

now going at the apple store

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