RTW Trip - Equipment for year+ Traveling

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I am leaving mid November for a Round the World trip lasting over a year, going from Central to S. America, parts of Africa, SE Asia, and up through China. It's the trip of a lifetime and I'm definitely taking my K10D to capture it, but there tons of things to consider regarding equipment to takelike durability(from Rainforests to deserts to cities), weight-, and knowing that what I take will determine what I shoot(can't just go home and grab something else).

1st Priority = Optical Quality --> Yes, it is the photographer not the camera. Most lenses I’m looking at are quite good and people can debate all day and never agree on which lens is better. But be honest, if you were gonna spend a year on the road seeing some of the most intriguing sights of your life knowing you’d probably never see them again, there are certain lenses you’d trust over others. And you’d rather have the best quality you can afford, not just a “it’s good enough” lens. Also, I do care about being able to hang some pics on my walls one day, in whatever size I can blow them up to.

Things I want:
1) true wide-angle for landscape,


2) everyday lens of the highest quality for the bulk of my pics(30-35mm is my favorite walk around length),
3) moderate tele lens for portraits and for certain landscape shots.

4) 1 lens capable of low-light indoor shots. Not the bulk of my shots, but a must have. I will have a pocket camera for night snapshots and the like.

5) Balance of weight/size to quality. I prefer a lighter pack, but it doesn’t HAVE to be the lightest possible. A few ounces more isn't a huge deal(2lb more is)

Things I’m willing to give up
1) Action shots – don’t use much


2) Long telephoto for Wildlife – would be great for Safari’s and wildlife, but it’s just too much bulk for something that would be a small % of my shots.
3) Macro – same as above

4) Every focal length possible – More would be great, but ultimately I’d rather shoot with 1 lens that takes great photos than 20 okay lenses that slow me down

So, what’s the best route?
1) 18-250 Ultra Zoom  Versatility & simplicity vs. less quality

2) All Pancake  21mm, 40mm, 70mm --- Ultra compact, but limiting(especially w/ range & low light)

3) DA* Zoom  16-50, 50-135 ----- Weather sealing and quality, but heavy, bulky, and would scare everyone if I tried to use it as portrait.

4) DA 12-24, FA 35(or 31 ), FA 77mm ----- Wide angle, Everyday lens & low light, & a less scary lens for portraits and telephoto.

5) So many more combos of zooms & Primes(DA 16-45 instead, DA 14mm as the WA, etc.)

-I’m currently thinking about heading route 4. While zooms are convenient and the DA* weatherproof, they are bulky and heavier and still don’t solve all my problems. Plus, portraits are hard enough in some foreign countries without throwing a mammoth lens in a person’s face. The 35mm is my main tool, and can be used for low-light, while the 12-24 gives me wide angle and the 21-24mm length for walk around shots a bit shorter.

-I really like the idea of the pancake lenses(particularly the length for walking around locals), but the 40mm is a bit too long for my main lens. I have been using this length recently and am sure I would get used to it, so it's still an option(as is the 43). They also seem expensive considering neither the 21mm or the 40mm are fast enough for low light. Is the optical quality much better than the good zooms of this range?

Given the nature of the trip, should I spring for the 31mm? Are the pancakes a better idea? Should I choose the DA 14mm instead of the 12-24 for WA? Is the 70 more versatile than the 77 given that it’s the only telephoto length I might take? Should I sneak a cheaper long zoom in, or is the 17-70 or DA 16-45 a better idea? I love my Pentax, it is the perfect camera and system for quality/affordability/durability/size&weight in regards to the trip I’m doing and the way I shoot. This board has helped me so much, and I’ve read so many threads over the year it’s ridiculous. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
 
I'm not sure about the wide angles or pancakes as my budget hasn't stretched to any of those yet but I would recommend taking a telephoto of some sort, probably even just the DA 50-200. It's small and cheap. In my experience I found things like safaris and even walking around towns and cities often called for a telephoto, you may just happen to see some really exciting animal or person or mountain and without some extra range it just makes up a tiny proportion of a photo.

Just my thoughts.

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Hm... I don't know anything about your budget but I have first hand experience with some of the lenses you have on your list.

31: It is a wonderful lens but for being a prime of 31mm it is big and heavy. Nothing I could recommend you to carry around for one year.

12-24 vs 14: They are almost the same weight and image quality is on par if not the zoom lens a little bit better. So if you don't need the extra speed, take the 12-24. It is one of the lenses I use most often.

So if I were you I would definitely want to take that 12-24mm. Above that I guess it depends on your shooting stile. Do you like zooms? The 16-50 and 50-135 sound like a pretty awesome combo and gives you 2.8 over the whole zoom range!

If you go for primes pick up a used 28, then 40, 50 (F1.4 for indoors) and 70. I have done some testing between 77 vs 70 and 43 vs 40. There are slight differences in contrast and bukeh but you can find a lot of people out here who prefer the one look over the other (try a forum search). As it boils down to taste, I would go for the lighter (and cheaper) solution.

Hope this helps. Cheers.

p.s.: don't forget a sturdy tripod and a fine solution to get all those shots home safely.
 
DA14/2.8 mostly for landscapes and some street photography you can find some very narrow allays out there...
FA 20-35/4 for landscapes, street photography and indoor photography...
FA 50/1.4 for portraits and low light indoor photography
DA 50-200 for landscapes etc...

That seams to me the cheapest, the lighter, and with the less volume gear that meets your requirements...

I would also go for DA10-17 fisheye, but that's me...

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I travel a lot (6 so far this year and 2 more planned, all pleasure) and for me the Tamron 18-250 and the Pentax 50/1.4 are all I need.
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Great stuff, thanks for the tips!

Cost is always an issue, but it just depends. I don't have a set budget, but don't want to be blowing money for no reason. Again, this is a trip I've been thinking about for years and I'd like to be able to put some of the best shots on my wall. The rest will be saved as jpeg/raw on my hard drive as I'll have enough pictures to take me years to edit them all.

I'm taking a light tripod, a polarizer, ND filter, and a portable storage HD. Laptop is too heavy or else to expensive, and too much a burden on the road. I work behind a computer all day right now, I can't wait to get away from it. Bag is a Tamrac Velocity 7(highly recommended).
 
personally I'd go with either the pair of DA*s or the 3 DA pancakes. (maybe with the da14 if you really need a superwide)

either approach has pros/cons

the primes def. take the win in portability/weight and "not drawing attention to yourself"

I'd guess they'd be about even in terms of image quality (subjective, not pixel peeping)

and the DA*s def. have the edge in convenience & range. (having a fully weather sealed system is def. a plus to the DA*s also don't have to change lenses as often)

My own travel kit is the DA21+FA35/2+50-200. The 35 is a great normal, and has the speed. the 21 is a great wide (not superwide) but plenty for landscapes and is incredibly versatile b/c of it's close focus distance. 50-200 is just "ok" but is light, small and covers a good range. It may not be as supremely versatile as some kits, but it's always been enough for me (ie. I've never been in a situation where I "couldn't get the shot" b/c I needed a different lens) and it's quite compact/light esp. when paired with the k100d. k10 adds some weight, but still a pretty minimal kit.
 
For small, light and the type of travel you describe, I think I would do the following:

12-24 for landscape, wide angle, interior or tight spaces
43ltd for lower light and normal view
77ltd for people and portraits

This would be a really basic kit, but covers the type of stuff you mention. If you can afford a 31ltd, it would no doubt be a great piece to have also.

I personally own the 70ltd, but wish I had gone for the 77ltd instead based on the renderings I've seen from that lens. I think the 3 lenses above though may meet many of your travel needs, except for longer telephoto.

I find that travel photography though lends itself more to the wide to normal and short telephoto stuff for me, more so than longer tele work.

The only other thing I might consider in the above kit is a macro of some length.

Have a fun trip.
 
and I would love to do the same one day.

Now my recommendation is going to be 2 options.

1) my own choice for such a trip.
K10D + K100D or other AA eating body.
DA14, DA21ltd, FA43ltd and either DA70 or FA77.

Either a travelangel tripod by benro or the gitzo 1550 with a decent ball head, probably spring for either RRS25 or 45 or just stick to my trust acratech ultimate.

I could do without the 14, but it is a wonderful WA lens to have.

2) the more general kit:
K10D and K100D (perhaps the super?)
DA*16-50, DA*50-135 + a fast prime in the 30-50mm range based on preference.
Add a TC with powercontacts

Tripod as above.

Now I am a prime guy and the prime setup is more compact and a lot more discrete, it does lack in range, why my sigma 70-200 might sneak in there too along with a TC.

Option two would might do very well too and probably be perfect for the rain forrest and desert. but it would be haevier to boot around.

If I was hard pressed on space, the K100D with 21,43,70 would be more than enough for me along with a light but sturdy tripod like the benro or gitzo mentioned above.

Consider a film body for back up might be a wise thing to do, though it would have an impact on the lens choices.

Good luck.

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1st Priority = Optical Quality --> Yes, it is the photographer not

Things I want:
1) true wide-angle for landscape,
2) everyday lens of the highest quality for the bulk of my
pics(30-35mm is my favorite walk around length),
3) moderate tele lens for portraits and for certain landscape shots.
4) 1 lens capable of low-light indoor shots. Not the bulk of my
shots, but a must have. I will have a pocket camera for night
snapshots and the like.
5) Balance of weight/size to quality. I prefer a lighter pack, but
it doesn’t HAVE to be the lightest possible. A few ounces more isn't
a huge deal(2lb more is)
So, what’s the best route?
1) 18-250 Ultra Zoom  Versatility & simplicity vs. less quality
Your first goal rules this out.
2) All Pancake  21mm, 40mm, 70mm --- Ultra compact, but
limiting(especially w/ range & low light)
You don't get the fast or true wide angle. I'd do a variation on this:
14, 21, 35/2 or 43/1.9, DA 50-200

The DA 50-200 gives you the length for wildlife. It isn't the ideal lens for this, but it is pretty good and very compact.

I switched out the 40/2.8 for the 35/2 or 43/1.9 to get you a low light lens. That one stop difference is a big one.

The 14 gives you a true wide angle. You could also carry the 10-17 FE(which is smaller) or the 12-24/4 (which is larger).
-I really like the idea of the pancake lenses(particularly the length
for walking around locals), but the 40mm is a bit too long for my
main lens.
In the pancake range I think of the 21/3.2 as my main lens. I regret buying the 40/2.8 and haven't used it much. When I want a lens of that length I end up taking the 35/2 to get the one stop faster and slightly wider angle.
Given the nature of the trip, should I spring for the 31mm? Are the
pancakes a better idea? Should I choose the DA 14mm instead of the
12-24 for WA?
The 14 is smaller and I think slightly lighter than the 12-24. It is also a stop faster. I don't see much focal length flexibility with the 12-24 if you are also carrying the 21/3.2.

The 10-17 FE is a great lens. Don't rule it out because it is a fisheye, it is easy to compose so that the fisheye doesn't draw attention to itself. The wide angle distortion from shooting wider than 14mm on a rectilinear is more noticable to me.
Is the 70 more versatile than the 77 given that it’s
the only telephoto length I might take?
I played with both in hand (at B&H in NYC) to decide which one I wanted. The one stop faster 77 was attractive, but ultimately the much lighter 70/2.4 won me over. I think I'm happy but I only have a few weeks experience with it.
Should I sneak a cheaper
long zoom in
I think so. I've been using the A 70-210/4 for a few years but might pick up the DA 50-200. It is so compact and light.

alex
 
Awesome guys, this really helps me organize my thoughts! I'll be happy no matter what and have to make concessions here and there regardless, but I tend to be obsessive in planning things. I've used several of the lenses mentioned but not all, so I can't really compare things like the 40 vs 43, 70 vs 77, 12-24 vs 10-17 vs 14. That's what the forum is for :)
 
From what I've learned so far with my K10 and limited lenses:
You may be of unlimited budget, - dunno there...

A 1.4 A-50mm manual focus. Fast, does oodles for you and cheap. What if it takes a walk?

50-200. Lotsa range, sharp, not too slow, and again, cheap and lightweight.

Whatever wide-angle you like. Depends on HOW wide you want/need. I like my lil' ol' 18-55.

A teleconverter. Maybe.

Filters. At least a polarizer, an fluorescent, and of course, an A-1 UV.

At least 3 batteries for the K10, a few sets of rechargeables for the K100 and take as many disposable AA's with you that you can stand to carry. They cost more in other places. Might be old there, too, - if it's a backwater place. If possible too, - two bodies. Really. What's the difference between that extra point-n'-shoot you mentioned and a spare body?

If you can afford/have room, - a mid-range 2.8 zoom lens.

Big Ziplock baggies. Double EVERYthing into them when you're not shooting. Dessicant if possible. Travel insurance and make sure your kit is listed in your home owners policy. No, - really. Sure helped ME out when I lost it all on a long trip. That hefty, 4-figured cheque sure was a welcome sight when I got home...
  • and take me with you. ;o)
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2) the more general kit:
K10D and K100D (perhaps the super?)
DA*16-50, DA*50-135 + a fast prime in the 30-50mm range based on
preference.
Add a TC with powercontacts

Tripod as above.
I have traveled a lot and that is similar to the basic kit I have traditionally carried. There are always cases where you come across low light when traveling so the extra speed comes in handy.

I find a tripod bulky for traveling (backpacking), so instead carry a bean bag to put my camera on.

I am currently replacing my 16-45 and Sigma telephoto with the DA* for weather sealing as I tend to hit a lot of dusty areas and like the speed/weight/quality balance of them. I am hoping to buy the slower DA* f4 lens if it comes out as the length I feel is more important as to my photographic style.

I think the quality compromise of the long zoom lenses too much of a trade off.

I also am wondering if with crop factors if you would be better dropping to a smaller focal length than my old favorite the 50mm as the fast prime.
 
(I feel like Colombo here...)
  • with using the 1st three lenses aforementioned, and a 49-52mm step-up ring, - you'd only need to tote one set of filters. And the combined weight of the lenses wouldn't be that much over that of one heavier, fast-glass zoom.
A tripod for traveling for that sort of time/distance would be a nuisance, - at least to me. You have SR, - and there's always a post or pole or just a knee to drop down to when you might need to.

Geez, - I still wanna go... ;o)

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Ok, so as of now I'm leaning towards: DA21, FA43, DA70.

I've spent the last several days shooting at only 21 and 43, and find that though my eyes naturally see around the 30-35 range, I can get 95% of the shots I want with these two lengths. I chose the 43 over the 40 for the extra stop, similar size and weight, and the rave reviews it has gotten. If anybody wants to convince me the 40 is an equal quality lens at a lower price, I'm listening...

Same with the DA70. Smaller, lighter, cheaper than the FA77 and has gotten great reviews also. People rave about the FA77, but I'm not sure the extra $175 and bulk is worth it.

Gonna wait on the wide angle for the moment. Will probably go for the DA14 since I'm getting the DA21 for everyday use.
 
Ok, so as of now I'm leaning towards: DA21, FA43, DA70.
If you are going for primes, ensure you are the type of person who is happy to carry and change primes on each excursion. Depends on the person but this is something you are going to be doing most days for the whole year.
I've spent the last several days shooting at only 21 and 43, and find
that though my eyes naturally see around the 30-35 range, I can get
95% of the shots I want with these two lengths. I chose the 43 over
the 40 for the extra stop, similar size and weight, and the rave
reviews it has gotten. If anybody wants to convince me the 40 is an
equal quality lens at a lower price, I'm listening...

Same with the DA70. Smaller, lighter, cheaper than the FA77 and has
gotten great reviews also. People rave about the FA77, but I'm not
sure the extra $175 and bulk is worth it.

Gonna wait on the wide angle for the moment. Will probably go for
the DA14 since I'm getting the DA21 for everyday use.
I really suggest you take at least one longer lens. I know when you are traveling you come across lots of sights and events that you can't get close to in festivals or wildlife. I couldn't imagine traveling without a lens that is 150+
 
Having done a similar trip over 21 months, many moons ago when my camera body was the MX, I'd take the 18-55 or 16-45, something in that range, the 50-200, a good teleconverter, and 50/1.4 or 1.7 for natural indoor light. I might add to this the 14mm. Don't travel too heavy and try to have a bag that doesn't look like a Lowepro that says steal me. Good luck.

On my trip, many moons ago, I had an MX, a 28mm, a 50/1.4 ,a 135mm, and a teleconverter. I believe that in some aspects, I produced my best photography then.
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Hi Louise,

Congratulations on taking the step for a RTW trip. Although it seems every other student does one of these for their gap year the actual percentage of the population under go such a trip is very very small and you will become one of these few brave enough to take such journey.

People here at Pentax forum are a very knowledgable bunch and they will give much better advise on lens than I can ever do. So I will twist the topic slightly and offer a different view.

It's all great taking photos to record your journey and capture precious moments (gawd I sound like a TV ad). But please don't hide behind the lens all the time on this trip, sometimes, by puting yourself behind the lens and capture the sceneary, you are actually putting a little bit distance between you rself the the exact thing you try to capture.

What I'm saying it, once in a while - try to make the most of time you spend on your travels, free yourself to your surroundings, interact with the locals, FEEL the elements of nature and appreciate the wonders and beauty of this planet with your own eyes/ hands/ body.

Cameras offer a window into a world, because eveything it captures is framed, while your eyes can offer an unrissticted view into the world :)

Expereince your trip first hand/ eye first, then worry about the photos ;)
 

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