I want the D300

Al.

You are on to something. And I didn't explain something else that is going on with the camera. If I set aperature priority in a bright setting to an aperature where the shutter is fast (i.e. 1/1000th) of a second but let it choose the shutter speed, the image turns out white...standing still... extremely overexposed. I don't start getting correct exposures until I put it in manual and start closing the aperature.

Hmmm.... that would happen if the shutter weren't REALLY able to fire at 1/1000th...and it were open much longer.

I REALLY do think this is what is going on! But now, how do I test this? What does doing what you suggested do? Is there any way to 'unstick' a shutter? And gosh... to send the thing in to Fuji? What would that cost? I just had the dang sensor replaced this last year cause it went black on me.

Oh, and no.. there isn't 'good bucks' in it... there are a few dollars here and there...but nothing that will put dinner on the table...not even for those that do it full time. I just enjoy it. Much more interesting (to me) than weddings... though there is more money in weddings.... for sure!

that i am wrong. you should be able to get pics like this.



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Hot dang! Now THAT is an action shot... WAY cool!

pattir7 said:

And really... at 1/3000th and f16, why on earth would the legs not be
tack sharp when the body of the horse is? That's a LOT of
forgiveness on focus... and a lot of shutter speed.

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Hi, I am new here, looking through the forums, and your technical problem with the S5 Pro caught my attention.

If you are in bright sunlight shooting horses at 1/3000th at f16, you could only make a proper exposure if you also set the camera to iso 3200.

If you're not shooting these horses in bright, cloudless sunlight the iso would have to be even higher.

Are you shooting at iso 3200 ?? If not, and your S5 is set to 1/3000th at f16 in manual mode, your pictures should be really_really underexposed.

Could it be that the camera is overriding your expected shutter speed, meaning it is not really taking pictures at 1/3000th?

At f16 with iso 100 your camera might be setting the shutter speed to something reasonable like 1/60th sec.

I don't know this camera yet but if it is the shutter is really buggy then thanks for the heads up.

Kevin

i have to sat thsis is with the s3 50-500 handheld. range was around 500mm. but i get the same with my s2
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Patti's camera is not an S5. It's an S2.
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Fleming said:

Patti's camera is not an S5. It's an S2.

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Okay, an S2.

Nevertheless, the high shutter speed coupled with a small aperature should require at the very least an iso of roughly 3200.

Has the OP provided EXIF data of his blurry horse shots?

I wager the shutter speed was not 1/3000th as expected but one much slower.

Yup. I believe you are correct. And I've already done my own tests that basically confirm the shutter is not operating beyond 1/60th of a second. I said this a couple of posts up and in another thread if you are interested in what I did.

I have found a local camera repair shop that has a shutter speed tester... will know for certain this afternoon. But I am fairly confident that this is exactly what is going on.

Ok, for everyone telling me it is my technique... in this particular case, it isn't. Just got back from repair shop. Shutter is sticky... will not operate faster than 1/60th. Explains a lot.

Normally, I don't mind people telling me it's me... normally, that's where I look first. But this was just perplexing. Absolutely no reason for the camera to operate the way it was...regardless of my technique.

So... it is being repaired....sigh... $225. I thought about letting it RIP... but a used S2 is about that much... and I know mine at least has a pretty new sensor. S2's are also prone to sensor failure...mine just went black...some people's got green lines. But I decided to repair mine instead of getting a used one where the sensor may not have been replaced.

And... come April/May (when I can afford to), I am getting the D300. It will be nice to have both... and use both. The D300 does have some advantages over the S2 that I can use.

But for now, I will be happy to get my S2 'back in action'... quite literally!

Thanks everyone for the suggestions... sometimes, it is the equipment responsible for the bad images though... sometimes....

Please accept my apologies for suggesting it was your technique that was at fault. I completely overlooked the (rather outside) possibility that it was your particular camera. I was reacting to the suggestion that it Fuji cameras in general were being blamed for an inability to stop motion in action shots that other brands could deal readily with. It should have occurred to me that your camera in particular was faulty, but in the absence of other clear clues (awful exposures, for example) , I just assumed it was operator error at some level. I am sorry to have falsely accused you, and look forward to seeing your results with the newly rejuvenated S2.
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glad you got an answer..

however you did not say your shots were wholly blown out... or were you putting massive negative exposute via aperture perhaps when viewing LCD?

1/60th to 1/3000th discrepancy... wow!

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I did make mention of the poor exposure issue in the original thread... but for whatever reason, it didn't occur to me that there was a REAL issue with the camera.

Nonetheless, for once, I am happy that it is not me. In fact, I'm pretty proud of myself now. Some of the images DO stop his motion forward (just not his legs)...and I can tell you, he was moving about 35 mph in some of those shots. So, my panning had to be decent to stop that at 1/60th of a second. Not too horrible.

I'm anxious to get it back already....

Thanks Robert. Apology accepted!

I never think it is the camera either... but I need to trust myself more. Like when my sensor died and the images went black... I was immediately thinking... did I take the lense cap off?! Nope... dead sensor.

I am anxious to get the beast back and take some action shots with an operational shutter... can't wait!

Patti

Fleming said:

Please accept my apologies for suggesting it was your technique that
was at fault. I completely overlooked the (rather outside)
possibility that it was your particular camera. I was reacting to
the suggestion that it Fuji cameras in general were being blamed for
an inability to stop motion in action shots that other brands could
deal readily with. It should have occurred to me that your camera in
particular was faulty, but in the absence of other clear clues (awful
exposures, for example) , I just assumed it was operator error at
some level. I am sorry to have falsely accused you, and look forward
to seeing your results with the newly rejuvenated S2.
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With kind regards,

Robert05 (AKA Fleming)
http://www.pbase.com/robert_in_sc

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Alan Brown said:

glad you got an answer..

however you did not say your shots were wholly blown out... or were
you putting massive negative exposute via aperture perhaps when
viewing LCD?

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What I did was put it in shutter priority first, set at 1/3000th and let it choose the aperature. Exposure was totally blown out. I then put it in manual exposure mode , set 1/3000th and the aperature it originally 'thought' was correct. Again, totally overexposed. Started cranking down the aperature... took 4-5 stops (makes sense now, eh?) until the histogram showed a correct exposure. I should have known then....

grazuncle said:

1/60th to 1/3000th discrepancy... wow!

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Funny thing. I was skimming this thread from time to time beacuse I have been noticing the superb IQ of the S2.

When I saw 1/3000th of a second and f16, I said to my self, WHAT! I was going to open my mouth because that simply cannot expose a shot properly, but I did not want to jump in.

good Luck

Mike