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Really unimpressive.
I hope production models will exhibit better IQ.
The lens looks really inadequate, but that doesn´t explain the noise.
 
Whoa wait a minute... Phil hasn't even compared 40D to Nikon D300! Don't assume that Nikon will do better. Remember the LBCAST sensor? It was hyped as a low-noise sensor which turned out to be a lot more noiser than expected.

Not to downplay the significance of Nikon's newest offerings but let's wait for what Phil finds in his exhaustive reviews.
 
I like...

Is there perhaps an element of bokeh in these images (distant things looking indistinct given the lens and aperture used)? I looked at one of the ISO 100 ship images and was impressed with the detail of the subject (the ship). I then cleaned one up one of the ISO 1600 images with Neat Image and small details (in what I assume to be the subject area) such as nearby bricks are very good. Give it a go! I suspect these images were posted with a view to giving a pro an idea of the noise before PP.

Note: I bet these images were taken with a tripod though. The real, actual, absolute proof of the pudding with ISO is of course IMHO hand held :-)

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Ralf Ronander said:
Really unimpressive.
I hope production models will exhibit better IQ.
The lens looks really inadequate, but that doesn´t explain the noise.
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17-85 isn't impressing, I'm sure the camera is fine
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Most of what seems unimpressive there can be attributed more to the lens than the camera.

Why don't they do some of these pictures with a prime? (like the 50mm f1.4)

Otherwise I don't see anything unimpressive from the elements that can be attributed to the camera body. Pretty smooth dSLR output with pretty good per-pixel detail like most Canon dSLRs. These seem to be jpegs straight out of the camera, maybe the in-camera sharpness is a little too low. But when shooting raw, I think we'll see impressive results from dpreview users.
 
They are not even in focus. Noise is bad at iso400 in such good light. There has to be better samples than this.
 
The landscapes have all been shot with the EF-S 17-85 at 17mm, which isn't a great performer at inifinity at the best of times, and that copy looks plain awful. Plus they are all shot in the f/11 - f/13 range, which is probably right on the borderline for diffraction at the 40D pixel size. DCWatch are pretty famous for extracting the absolute least from cameras - their in house test shots are unformly appalling.
 
highsee3 said:
17-85 isn't impressing, I'm sure the camera is fine
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I'm not sure at all. The lens has nothing to do with the fact that the high ISO speeds don't look very good, with blotchy chroma noise and the ugly watercolor NR of the Digic 3 (harder to see than with compact camera samples, but it is there).

Plus the 8 MP sensors had 1/3 extra stop of sensitivity that is gone with the 10 MP sensor.

Canon could have lost its edge in this regard. Either way, for JPGs at high ISO straight from the camera, the 8 MP models were better.
 
Funny... I would have described those 40D test images as "Class Leading"
 
Check out the crappy purle fringing and pink cast to the white elements of the ship. My granddaughter would love them. But not so me.

Really poor result. One would have thought Canon could have fixed this problem by now. Just not good enough in 2007 And Full frame format cameras even worse!
 
I haven't bothered to take a look at the images but i wouldn't expect the 40D to produce inferior quality photos to the 30D. Given a sensor based on the 400D one, were people really expecting 5D image quality?
 
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