D1H price drop right now????

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D100 is about $3000, so how about the price of D1H?

How about S1, D30, both old model DSLR, price also will drop till less than $2000....

That will be very nice !--James Kei
 
The D100 will be sold for $2400 or LESS!!! So will the Fuji S2 and/or the Canon D60. None of these camers price will ever get close to $3000 street price and I mean including all basic accessories.
D100 is about $3000, so how about the price of D1H?

How about S1, D30, both old model DSLR, price also will drop till
less than $2000....

That will be very nice !
--
James Kei
 
what is the prce right now?

How is droping ? what is the prce right now?

How is droping ? what is the prce right now?

How is droping ? what is the prce right now?

How is droping ? what is the prce right now?

How is droping ? what is the prce right now?

How is droping ?
How is droping ?
D100 is about $3000, so how about the price of D1H?

How about S1, D30, both old model DSLR, price also will drop till
less than $2000....

That will be very nice !
--
James Kei
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James Kei
--James Kei
 
I agree totally. Look at Nikon's track record in film....

the F100 and F5 barely moved a penny even though the N80 became the darling of the "prosumer" world.

As a matter of fact, if you look at the current prices, two years after all the fuss about the N80/F80 being the end of the F100, it's the N80 that everyone has on sale...the F100 price is still the same.

Until some version of the D2 comes out, I have no doubt the D1x/h will stay stable in price, while the D100 will be the one that everyone tries to discount.

My 2.

--scott b.'Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click the shutter.'-Ansel Adams
 
But D100 is 6.1MP, what is the D1H, 2.75MP, sorry for it.
I agree totally. Look at Nikon's track record in film....

the F100 and F5 barely moved a penny even though the N80 became the
darling of the "prosumer" world.

As a matter of fact, if you look at the current prices, two years
after all the fuss about the N80/F80 being the end of the F100,
it's the N80 that everyone has on sale...the F100 price is still
the same.

Until some version of the D2 comes out, I have no doubt the D1x/h
will stay stable in price, while the D100 will be the one that
everyone tries to discount.

My 2.

--
scott b.
'Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have
somebody click the shutter.'-Ansel Adams
--James Kei
 
But D100 is 6.1MP, what is the D1H, 2.75MP, sorry for it.
But D1h is 5fps, and D100 is (maybe) 3. D1h can shoot 40 frames before it needs to take a breath and D100 can take only 3 (as far as we know now). D1h will be better regarding noise (allthough we have to wait and see), D1h has firewire - GPS input - will meter with old manual lenses etc, etc.......

No, D100 will not affect the price on D1h/x. It is meant for a totally different marked.
I agree totally. Look at Nikon's track record in film....

the F100 and F5 barely moved a penny even though the N80 became the
darling of the "prosumer" world.

As a matter of fact, if you look at the current prices, two years
after all the fuss about the N80/F80 being the end of the F100,
it's the N80 that everyone has on sale...the F100 price is still
the same.

Until some version of the D2 comes out, I have no doubt the D1x/h
will stay stable in price, while the D100 will be the one that
everyone tries to discount.

My 2.

--
scott b.
'Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have
somebody click the shutter.'-Ansel Adams
--
James Kei
 
Hi,

The D100 can't compete against the D1H in many areas. I shoot a lot of motorsports, and there's no way I could even begin to shoot using a camera with a 3-shot buffer. Heck, I can find the limitations on the 26-shot buffer in the D1H as it is, if I make use of the full 5 fps speed.

Then there's the question of file size and the CF card write speed. The D1H has a smaller file size, so it can clear space in the buffer at a faster rate than the D100 could. Plus, we don't know yet if the D100 has an equivalent bits-per-second write speed. That'll have to wait until Phil gets a D100 to review.

Still, the combination of large dual-ported buffer memory and smaller file size will put the D1H far, far ahead of the D100 in shot capture rate. the D100 does not look like a camera for sports shooters of any sort. I know that if I tried to use one, it would hit it's limits on the very first green flag. That's when I need lots of buffer space, even when shooting a series of individually aimed shots (as opposed to mashing the trigger and letting the camera play 'video camcorder emulation')

Next, we have to look at the low-light capability. The D1H has a larger pixel well than the D100, so it's pretty certain to outperform in this area as well. Another common type of shooting I do on a regular basis is shoot at professional bowling tournaments. Indoors, poor lighting, and no flash allowed. I can shoot with the D1H at ISO 1600 with an f2.8 or faster lens and get shots that print at 8x10 size with acceptable noise levels.

It remains for a review of the D100 before we'll really know how well it performs at ISO 1600, but I really don't expect it to come close to the capability of the D1H.

These are all performance issues that will continue to make the D1H sell well even if it's 2x the cost of a D100. When we start looking at the mechanical package, we'll see other things that are different. Since others have pointed those out already, I'll not duplicate it all.

As already pointed out, the two cameras are aimed at very different markets. They really aren't competing against each other. Pros will buy D100's as backup and assistant bodies, but they'll also have D1H and D1X bodies in their bags as well. Most pros carry several camera bodies anyway, and use the correct one for the job at hand.

Us higher-end amateurs are the ones faced with making the D1X/D1H/D100 type of decision. The general consumers won't be needing the extra features of the D1 series, so there won't be much time spent on choosing the D100 over the D1H for them. The choice is pretty easy for them.

However, if you're looking for a major price drop on a D1 series camera because the D100 is arriving in the marketplace, then I think you're in for a long wait...... The D1H is still selling in the $4000 range, and the D1X in the $5000 range, from what I can see both in the local shops and at the usual on-line web stores.

Stan
But D100 is 6.1MP, what is the D1H, 2.75MP, sorry for it.
--Amateur PhotographerProfessional Electronics Development Engineer
 
Agreed.

And we have not even seen the D100 CCD perform under different conditions. 5mp on a Coolpix 5000 is different from a 5mp on D1x or even a D100.

Hopefully the D100 CCD is even better than D1h and D1x, but if Nikon has any economical sense, it would not, and may be worse.

James
But D100 is 6.1MP, what is the D1H, 2.75MP, sorry for it.
But D1h is 5fps, and D100 is (maybe) 3. D1h can shoot 40 frames
before it needs to take a breath and D100 can take only 3 (as far
as we know now). D1h will be better regarding noise (allthough we
have to wait and see), D1h has firewire - GPS input - will meter
with old manual lenses etc, etc.......
No, D100 will not affect the price on D1h/x. It is meant for a
totally different marked.
 
Agreed.

And we have not even seen the D100 CCD perform under different
conditions. 5mp on a Coolpix 5000 is different from a 5mp on D1x
or even a D100.

Hopefully the D100 CCD is even better than D1h and D1x, but if
Nikon has any economical sense, it would not, and may be worse.
My personal opinion regarding noise on D100. It will be better than D1x, but worse than D1h. Why? The evolution from D1x to D100 talks in D100s favor, and the pixel size on the D100 is same size/larger (at least it's square). D1h has a lot larger pixels than the D100, and despite one generation between them I belive the D1h will be better than the D100.

I also belive we can read some information from the start ISO 200. There was simply no reason to put in ISO100, as the picture is worse than ISO200.
James
But D100 is 6.1MP, what is the D1H, 2.75MP, sorry for it.
But D1h is 5fps, and D100 is (maybe) 3. D1h can shoot 40 frames
before it needs to take a breath and D100 can take only 3 (as far
as we know now). D1h will be better regarding noise (allthough we
have to wait and see), D1h has firewire - GPS input - will meter
with old manual lenses etc, etc.......
No, D100 will not affect the price on D1h/x. It is meant for a
totally different marked.
 
I agree with Stan on everything, and would like to magnify on two points:
Us higher-end amateurs are the ones faced with making the
D1X/D1H/D100 type of decision. The general consumers won't be
needing the extra features of the D1 series, so there won't be much
time spent on choosing the D100 over the D1H for them. The choice
is pretty easy for them.
That's exactly right. Most of the pros I work around carry a F100 or F5 in their bag to back up the D1x/h now. (They'll all admit the second camera hardly ever comes out of the bag -- UNLESS its loaded with a fast prime specifically for low-light shots)
However, if you're looking for a major price drop on a D1 series
camera because the D100 is arriving in the marketplace, then I
think you're in for a long wait...... The D1H is still selling in
the $4000 range, and the D1X in the $5000 range, from what I can
see both in the local shops and at the usual on-line web stores.
Just talked with the Nikon seller of nearly 40 years again, and he said almost the exact same thing. He expects "street" price of the D1H to stay around $3800 - $4000 and the D1X to stay in the $4300-$5000 area -- even after the rebate "ends". (Hinting that he expects the current rebate price to become the Nikon street price).

--scott b.'Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click the shutter.'-Ansel Adams
 
Does noise really creat problem, when come to print?
But resolution does creat problem when come to print, right!

Of cause speed is the factor.
Us higher-end amateurs are the ones faced with making the
D1X/D1H/D100 type of decision. The general consumers won't be
needing the extra features of the D1 series, so there won't be much
time spent on choosing the D100 over the D1H for them. The choice
is pretty easy for them.
That's exactly right. Most of the pros I work around carry a F100
or F5 in their bag to back up the D1x/h now. (They'll all admit the
second camera hardly ever comes out of the bag -- UNLESS its loaded
with a fast prime specifically for low-light shots)
However, if you're looking for a major price drop on a D1 series
camera because the D100 is arriving in the marketplace, then I
think you're in for a long wait...... The D1H is still selling in
the $4000 range, and the D1X in the $5000 range, from what I can
see both in the local shops and at the usual on-line web stores.
Just talked with the Nikon seller of nearly 40 years again, and he
said almost the exact same thing. He expects "street" price of the
D1H to stay around $3800 - $4000 and the D1X to stay in the
$4300-$5000 area -- even after the rebate "ends". (Hinting that he
expects the current rebate price to become the Nikon street price).

--
scott b.
'Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have
somebody click the shutter.'-Ansel Adams
--James Kei
 
Hopefully the D100 CCD is even better than D1h and D1x, but if
Nikon has any economical sense, it would not, and may be worse.
For Nikon's sake, I hope the D100 CCD/image is better, at least in the ISO 100-400 range, because it looks like the Canon D60 already is.
 
Hopefully the D100 CCD is even better than D1h and D1x, but if
Nikon has any economical sense, it would not, and may be worse.
For Nikon's sake, I hope the D100 CCD/image is better, at least in
the ISO 100-400 range, because it looks like the Canon D60 already
is.
You are right. I was thinking from a Nikon partisan viewpoint, who would not touch Canon even when provided free-of-charge!

James
 
It looks like the D60 is better than D1x, but the D1h is FAR better than D1x, so I don't think the D60 is better than the D1h.
Geir Atle
Hopefully the D100 CCD is even better than D1h and D1x, but if
Nikon has any economical sense, it would not, and may be worse.
For Nikon's sake, I hope the D100 CCD/image is better, at least in
the ISO 100-400 range, because it looks like the Canon D60 already
is.
 

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