Canon Cannot Do?

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I am like the most of you thrilled by the new Nikons. Now I'm thinking - can Canon build a FF, 12 MP, 9 FPS body, let alone top the specs on this one ? At least on paper and some reviews I've read by RG and others, it really seems that the high ISO and the TFT is fantastic.

I need an upgrade for my MKII and a backup body - but I'm left waiting. The MKIII is in my opinion, a blunder - At this level and pro segment one shouldn't be hoping for a cam that maybe works as it should - I need a cam I can trust and that delivers - 100%. A lot of my colleagues, like myself, are hanging on to the MKII till this gets sorted out - but the damage is done, I can assure you. Sure, some say there is no problem - I have yet to hear that statement from CPS or Canon. I have personally shot with 2 bodies that couldn't servo, that's 2 bodies too many - and no way am I going to risk working with a cam that may or may not work. And this is the position a lot of my working colleagues are taking.

When one sees what Nikon delivered, a tiny company compared to a global player, I think it is time to ask where Canon's philosophy is going. The concept is what bugs me, or rather the lack of it. If Nikon had the time and resources to produce this, where was Canons R&D ? Do they even have the know-how? I mean, the TFT alone is a glaring example of top-edge design. Not that it's absolutely needed, but if the technology was there why not bring it in ? Did they see all this coming at all?

When one stands back and sees what Nikon packed in the Dxx series at that price and what Canon held back or can't do in the 1Dx series - one has to ask what the strategy was and will be in the future.

Canon can only react to this on the 5D upgrade. And a reality check on the prices rather than the so called EU same-price strategy in January which resulted in almost a 10-15% price increase across the board - overnight. At the end of the day, not much for a real lot of photographers in my field of work, sports and documentary work. There seems to be (at least on paper, but most likely) a two generation gap between Nikons and Canons (using Canon's upgrade time-line) and a very, very questionable company philosophy.

Interesting to see how Canon reacts. Actually, it thinks it doesn't even have to - A lot of the pros won't be switching because we still get our shots as it is, the Nikons are still paper models and although not really an issue, a switch is expensive. Others and myself WILL be switching if A) The bodies prove themselves in focus and servo B) The high ISO's are usable C) If Canon doesn't provide a solution or alternative. I've shot Nikons in the past and might be doing it again although I've had Canon DSLRs since the 10D days.

Personally and a lot of others are waiting how Canon reacts here. If it is with the same arrogance and even more muscle-flexing - we will be seeing fewer white lenses on the sidelines and pits at the next Olympics.

Good times for all Nikon users and hopefully a readjusting of Canon's philosophy.

Thanks for reading.
 
Points well made. It will be very interesting to see how the next 18 months, or longer for the 1 series cameras, unfold for Canon and their market share.

How will they respond? will they respond? can they respond? and what is more important to them, the business of photography or the photographer themeselves?

At the moment it appears to me that they are more interested in the business of photography.

We can hope this is a wake up call to Canon, but 18 months is a long time and who will really care by then, especially if these Nikon's deliver on their promises.
 
good post
When one sees what Nikon delivered, a tiny company compared to a
global player, I think it is time to ask where Canon's philosophy is
going. The concept is what bugs me, or rather the lack of it. If
Nikon had the time and resources to produce this, where was Canons
R&D ? Do they even have the know-how? I mean, the TFT alone is a
glaring example of top-edge design. Not that it's absolutely needed,
but if the technology was there why not bring it in ? Did they see
all this coming at all?
Nikon buy's these little LCD screens. Canon could, if they would, buy them at the same supplier. Same goes for goodies like the horizon leveler. It's existing technology. Nikon decided to design state-of-the-art machines, Canon continues its path of slow evolution. Where is Canon's philosophy going? Are they too big, is it arrogance... or is it all planned?
Canon can only react to this on the 5D upgrade.
They won't. In the long term plan the role of the 5DmkII has been decided years ago. It will get the 40D features, nothing else. Cross fingers for 16MP.

I think Canon takes the role of a conservative factory while Nikon wants to be innovative. Many people like evolution in small steps, they don't want their new phone to work any different than the old one. They look down at vga-lcd like their parents did at color-tv... who needs it? Canon more and more becomes the slow but solid giant, Nikon profiles itself as a company that strives for the very best without compromises.

The result? This is the 20-year anniversary of EOS... and Canon gets humiliated. The 1D is the best Canon can do. Small Nikon does better.

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I think Canon takes the role of a conservative factory while Nikon
wants to be innovative. Many people like evolution in small steps,
they don't want their new phone to work any different than the old
one. They look down at vga-lcd like their parents did at color-tv...
who needs it? Canon more and more becomes the slow but solid giant,
Nikon profiles itself as a company that strives for the very best
without compromises.

The result? This is the 20-year anniversary of EOS... and Canon gets
humiliated. The 1D is the best Canon can do. Small Nikon does better.
I think there is a big difference between conservative and complacent. Nikon never changed much because the ergonomics and the concept have always been better than Canon's. The only two flaws Nikon had was noise and long glass. Those were my only reason to jump overboard.

There is so much in the new stuff that is under-rated. The D3 can have a 5:4 ratio (30x24). Ptgs. who regularly get work printed will realise the benefits of this format and cropping.
That is innovation and knowing the market needs. Canon just wasn't there.
 
I agree with your other points, but must say that at the outset of the EOS cameras, Nikon's F4 was horrendously lacking in ergonomics, and Nikon played catch-up in this field until they surpassed Canon with the F100. Nikon simply seemed to more readily accept the need to change, but perhaps because they were forced to.
MarkusG2 wrote:
Nikon never changed much because the ergonomics and the
concept have always been better than Canon's.
 
Nikon apparently intends to continue delivering Class leading cameras into the future. In todays WSJ, they announced that they intend to capture 40% of the Global market for high-end digital SLR cameras over the next 3 years. Canon better get their act together quickly if they want to continue to be the leader in this field.
 
Start talking about something useful ... not my stick is bigger then your stick ...
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Yet another troll post bashing Canon

we need to forum for "Canon bashing" where the trolls can hang out

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