I assume that this is an eBay/PayPal scam...

Steve Ives said:

It's OK - I'm sure this one is legit.

I'm covered by PayPal, should it turn out not to be the case.

Click to expand...

you are NOT covered by paypal. that's a myth.

but its your money. if you want to learn NOT to trust in paypal, well, maybe you need that lesson.

the words 'trust' and 'paypal' should never be in the same sentence unless there is a strong negative word also in the same sentence.

--
Bryan (pics only: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linux-works )
(pics and more: http://www.netstuff.org ) ~

linuxworks said:

Steve Ives said:

It's OK - I'm sure this one is legit.

I'm covered by PayPal, should it turn out not to be the case.

Click to expand...

you are NOT covered by paypal. that's a myth.

but its your money. if you want to learn NOT to trust in paypal,
well, maybe you need that lesson.

the words 'trust' and 'paypal' should never be in the same sentence
unless there is a strong negative word also in the same sentence.

--

Click to expand...

I hope some of you guys who continually knock PayPal and eBay have something other than second hand tales to support your negativity. Sooner or later, those outfits are going to start monitoring events and start suing for slander and libel.

While the truth is an absolute defense, proving the truth of second hand info can be iffy.
--
Charlie Self
http://www.charlieselfonline.com

linuxworks said:

Steve Ives said:

It's OK - I'm sure this one is legit.

I'm covered by PayPal, should it turn out not to be the case.

Click to expand...

you are NOT covered by paypal. that's a myth.

Click to expand...

Why not? Are you saying that they don't abide by their published, contractual, terms and conditions?

--
Steve

Steve Ives said:

linuxworks said:

Steve Ives said:

It's OK - I'm sure this one is legit.

I'm covered by PayPal, should it turn out not to be the case.

Click to expand...

you are NOT covered by paypal. that's a myth.

Click to expand...

Why not? Are you saying that they don't abide by their published,
contractual, terms and conditions?

Click to expand...

THEY carefully crafted their own TOS. and they get US to sign it or not. you think they make a fair TOS for themselves? its full of 'outs' for them to deny any coverage or even assistance.

I've had personal issues that have gone unresolved and paypal was not held to the same rules that a bank would. they have too many ways to deny you and also get away with it.

believe what you want, but personal experience, for me, is enough to say that paypal should not be trusted if you ever run into a problem with a vendor or customer and actually NEED their help. its borderline - just like rebate scams. you can work and call and try to push thru your rebate but if the company is setup to deny most of them as a matter of course, its basically fighting an uphill battle.

that's how it is with paypal. be forewarned. this is NOT a bank and they make up their own damned rules.

--
Bryan (pics only: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linux-works )
(pics and more: http://www.netstuff.org ) ~

CharlieDIY said:

linuxworks said:

Steve Ives said:

It's OK - I'm sure this one is legit.

I'm covered by PayPal, should it turn out not to be the case.

Click to expand...

you are NOT covered by paypal. that's a myth.

but its your money. if you want to learn NOT to trust in paypal,
well, maybe you need that lesson.

the words 'trust' and 'paypal' should never be in the same sentence
unless there is a strong negative word also in the same sentence.

--

Click to expand...

I hope some of you guys who continually knock PayPal and eBay have
something other than second hand tales to support your negativity.
Sooner or later, those outfits are going to start monitoring events
and start suing for slander and libel.

While the truth is an absolute defense, proving the truth of second
hand info can be iffy.

Click to expand...

yup, I'm talking first-hand data. I posted on one of the DPR forums enough details about a so-called 'confirmed delivery' that paypal said happened and I said didn't happen. they had a post office online statement saying that some pkg was delivered to my town. that was it - no street, no name, no signature, nothing. for them, that media-mail 'receipt' (that I later found out the mailman signs for, himself!) was all paypal needed to deny me coverage. the seller sent the mail the cheapest possible way but used a paypal loophole of using media-mail 'confirmed delivery'. I showed them how it was NOT confirmed - but my argument meant nothing to them - they had SOME web link (with mostly incorrect or incomplete data) and so since they had some web link - they thought that's all they needed to prove that the item was delivered.

unbelieveable. would YOU consider an item delivered if the best trace you could find was 'yeah, it entered san jose, CA' ? its nice to have it reach your town - but for a confirmation you'd expect a street address, a person's name and a time/signature. is that really asking too much?

I tried explaining to the seller and never got a reply - that's why I escalated to paypal. I explained that I never got the item but they refused to listen since their web link was in their system.

no-win situation.

avoid paypal. they're scam artists. I don't care WHO reads this. its factual and its from a case I had with them.

--
Bryan (pics only: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linux-works )
(pics and more: http://www.netstuff.org ) ~

It should be OK. The transaction meets all the requirements for the 'Seller Protection Policy'.

If the worst happens and the payment gets pulled and PayPal won't honour it, then I'll file a claim in the Small Claims court.

--
Steve