It is Pentax Time

wll · Aug 19, 2007

With Canon coming out with some very nice cameras, Pentax needs to tell the world what it has up its sleeve.

I think they will do this around Sept. and I can harly wait.

It is time to take off the gloves and come out swinging !!!!!

wll

DLBlack · Aug 19, 2007

wll said:
With Canon coming out with some very nice cameras, Pentax needs to
tell the world what it has up its sleeve.

I think they will do this around Sept. and I can harly wait.

Rumors has it that nearly all the camera companies will make their announcements before the upcoming camera/electronics convention in Germany next week. I believe Pentax has a press release scheduled for Aug. 23.

wll said:
It is time to take off the gloves and come out swinging !!!!!

Rumors has it that Pentax will have two new cameras out by the end of the year. People are guessing one will be a mid-level camera (maybe a 10 megapixel K100D) and the other will be placed above the K10D.

Dave

PhotoTraveler · Aug 19, 2007

correct, both pentax and nikon have scheduled press releases this week. The wild card is sony, and no one has yet to get a date from them yet, but some things point to early September.

gazonk · Aug 20, 2007

DLBlack said:
Rumors has it that Pentax will have two new cameras out by the end of
the year. People are guessing one will be a mid-level camera (maybe
a 10 megapixel K100D) and the other will be placed above the K10D.

A "M10D" (a super compact - like the MX was to the KX) would be great too, but a "K200D" with 10mp and a second camera above the K10D (and still with aggressive price/performance ratio?) is probably the safest move right now.
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Ishpuini · Aug 20, 2007

DLBlack said:
Rumors has it that nearly all the camera companies will make their
announcements before the upcoming camera/electronics convention in
Germany next week. I believe Pentax has a press release scheduled
for Aug. 23.

Indeed, I'm hoping for an update of the lens roadmap with more details on the lenses already on there.

Wim

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Roland Mabo · Aug 20, 2007

gazonk said:
A "M10D" (a super compact - like the MX was to the KX) would be great
too

K D Torigoe and K Tatamiya from Pentax has said that they will look into more compact DSLR's after they have released the high-end camera that they are working on. When they have strong products from entry level to professional, then they may release niche products such as super compact DSLR's.
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Caat · Aug 20, 2007

Well Pentax might match Canon on the Live View front. If I remember rightly there was a thread a few months ago linking to a Patent filed by Pentax a couple of years ago for a liveview like system. Except that I think Pentax's allowed for autofocus without blacking out the display and the display of a live histogram in the viewfinder. But I could be wrong.

Edit: There is also of course Samsung to watch out as well as far as K-mount releases go.

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Barry Fitzgerald · Aug 20, 2007

K10D price cuts!

Gonna have to now when the 40D rolls out. Thats good news..K10D is still a fine camera.
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bdery · Aug 20, 2007

Caat said:
Well Pentax might match Canon on the Live View front. If I remember
rightly there was a thread a few months ago linking to a Patent filed
by Pentax a couple of years ago for a liveview like system. Except
that I think Pentax's allowed for autofocus without blacking out
the display and the display of a live histogram in the viewfinder.
But I could be wrong.

This would be marvelous, and many P&S users would probably be tempted to jump ships if they understood what this means.

Of course nothing beats looking through a viewfinder but for many applications (WB settings, tripod work, odd angles) live view is very useful.

Implementing a dual focusing system (phase focus when using the view finder, contrast focus, as with any P&S, when using LiveView) makes just plain good sense, but no one did it so far. This system would also be helpful when mirror vibration has to be avoided.

I think Pentax has no other way to consider the LiveView system, if Canon offers it, you can be sure Nikon is working on it and Sony is ready to release it. Same thing happened last year with dust reduction, now everyone does it.

Funny thing is, both times the year's "big" innovation was an Olympus idea at first. Sadly for them, their 2x crop factor just doesn't work for me, that and the noise, and overpriced lenses.

Caat said:
Edit: There is also of course Samsung to watch out as well as far as
K-mount releases go.

True. They could go for the newer technology faster than Pentax. After all, there have been many interviews and press releases where people from Pentax said they wanted to preserve the "flim-like" experience. That doesn't sound in-line with LiveView...

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superakuma · Aug 20, 2007

A lot of the new camera by other manufacture have really high shooting speed and I hope the next Pentax dSLR will be faster then 3fps. The slow fps and only 5 shot is the only thing that I don't like about my K100D. I really don't care if it is 10mp or not, I just want a faster burst speed.

Jonson PL · Aug 22, 2007

Roland Mabo said:
gazonk said:

A "M10D" (a super compact - like the MX was to the KX) would be great
too

Click to expand...

K D Torigoe and K Tatamiya from Pentax has said that they will look
into more compact DSLR's after they have released the high-end camera
that they are working on. When they have strong products from entry
level to professional, then they may release niche products such as
super compact DSLR's.

Nice, might be interested in a really compact DSLR for travel. I like the weathersealing of K10 though. And even find the Oly’s a bit too tiny, so will have to test it in hand. Maybe some more WA pancakes as well, and you would have a great hiking/travel camera.

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Caat · Aug 22, 2007

bdery said:
Caat said:

Well Pentax might match Canon on the Live View front. If I remember
rightly there was a thread a few months ago linking to a Patent filed
by Pentax a couple of years ago for a liveview like system. Except
that I think Pentax's allowed for autofocus without blacking out
the display and the display of a live histogram in the viewfinder.
But I could be wrong.

Click to expand...

This would be marvelous, and many P&S users would probably be tempted
to jump ships if they understood what this means.

Of course nothing beats looking through a viewfinder but for many
applications (WB settings, tripod work, odd angles) live view is very
useful.

Implementing a dual focusing system (phase focus when using the view
finder, contrast focus, as with any P&S, when using LiveView) makes
just plain good sense, but no one did it so far. This system would
also be helpful when mirror vibration has to be avoided.

I think Pentax has no other way to consider the LiveView system, if
Canon offers it, you can be sure Nikon is working on it and Sony is
ready to release it. Same thing happened last year with dust
reduction, now everyone does it.

Funny thing is, both times the year's "big" innovation was an Olympus
idea at first. Sadly for them, their 2x crop factor just doesn't work
for me, that and the noise, and overpriced lenses.

bdery said:

Edit: There is also of course Samsung to watch out as well as far as
K-mount releases go.

Click to expand...

True. They could go for the newer technology faster than Pentax.
After all, there have been many interviews and press releases where
people from Pentax said they wanted to preserve the "flim-like"
experience. That doesn't sound in-line with LiveView...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=23493231&page=1

This is the link to the thread about the Pentax live view system. You need to read the whole thing to get a decent idea of it can (theoretically) do.

It sounds great but of course does not necessarily exist in any working form.

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Roland Mabo · Aug 22, 2007

Barry Fitzgerald said:
K10D price cuts!
Gonna have to now when the 40D rolls out. Thats good news..K10D is
still a fine camera.

The price indications that I have seen on the 40D indicates a price at about twice the price for the K10D, but it may get lower when it hit the streets of course.

K10D may get a price cut, but not because of the 40D, but because of the new Pentax camera in development and soon-to-be-released state.
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Anastigmat · Aug 22, 2007

It is no secret what Pentax will do next. It will come out with a camera that uses the Sony 12.5mp APS-C CMOS sensor announced on Monday. Quite possibly it will come out with a 10mp camera with a k100D grade body to compete with the Nikon D40X. The wild card seems to be the 645D. Other than that, not much should be expected from Pentax.

wll said:
With Canon coming out with some very nice cameras, Pentax needs to
tell the world what it has up its sleeve.

I think they will do this around Sept. and I can harly wait.

It is time to take off the gloves and come out swinging !!!!!

wll

matander · Aug 22, 2007

Anastigmat said:
It is no secret what Pentax will do next. It will come out with a
camera that uses the Sony 12.5mp APS-C CMOS sensor announced on
Monday. Quite possibly it will come out with a 10mp camera with a
k100D grade body to compete with the Nikon D40X. The wild card seems
to be the 645D. Other than that, not much should be expected from
Pentax.

I would say that it still is a big secret!

Nothing confirmed yet regarding sensorsize, resolution or manufacturer. The only thing there seems to be some concensus around is that ther will be a model above the K10D and one model between K100D and K10D. We are also assuming a K10D super to appear.

The rumourmill says one of the 2 new models will not have a sony sensor, if that sensor is aimed for the low end model then for sure we it will be an APS-C sensor and the higher end model will then get the new sony 12,5 MP sensor.

If there is a new sensor developed i am sure that they aim for something better than 10 MP APS-C since they can buy that cheaper from Sony. My guess is that Pentax aim for delivering the first affordable fullframe DSLR (I will probably have to eat that statement tomorrow...). I know everything in the lens roadmap suggests that they will stick to APS-C but flip the coin for a second and consider what you would have done yourself if you planned on surprising the market with a lower cost fullframe DSLR, would you put all your planned fullframe lenses on the roadmap? I wouldnt!

Remember that Pentax said that they aimed for 21 new lenses 2007, how many of these are revealed on the lens roadmap? The optical formulas for the fullframe lenses are already available with their older designs, throw in SDM support and put a black housing around them and a lot of "new" lenses could be developed with minimum effort.

Of course this is my personal wishful thinking because i´d like to mount my FA* 28-70 2.8 on a fullframe body.....what a lens!

Regards
Mats
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Tamron SP 17-35 2.8-4.0
Tamron SP 24-135 3.5-5.6
Pentax AF500 FTZ

Priyantha Bleeker · Aug 22, 2007

matander said:
Anastigmat said:

It is no secret what Pentax will do next. It will come out with a
camera that uses the Sony 12.5mp APS-C CMOS sensor announced on
Monday. Quite possibly it will come out with a 10mp camera with a
k100D grade body to compete with the Nikon D40X. The wild card seems
to be the 645D. Other than that, not much should be expected from
Pentax.

Click to expand...

I would say that it still is a big secret!
Nothing confirmed yet regarding sensorsize, resolution or
manufacturer. The only thing there seems to be some concensus around
is that ther will be a model above the K10D and one model between
K100D and K10D. We are also assuming a K10D super to appear.
The rumourmill says one of the 2 new models will not have a sony
sensor, if that sensor is aimed for the low end model then for sure
we it will be an APS-C sensor and the higher end model will then get
the new sony 12,5 MP sensor.
If there is a new sensor developed i am sure that they aim for
something better than 10 MP APS-C since they can buy that cheaper
from Sony. My guess is that Pentax aim for delivering the first
affordable fullframe DSLR (I will probably have to eat that statement
tomorrow...). I know everything in the lens roadmap suggests that
they will stick to APS-C but flip the coin for a second and consider
what you would have done yourself if you planned on surprising the
market with a lower cost fullframe DSLR, would you put all your
planned fullframe lenses on the roadmap? I wouldnt!
Remember that Pentax said that they aimed for 21 new lenses 2007, how
many of these are revealed on the lens roadmap? The optical formulas
for the fullframe lenses are already available with their older
designs, throw in SDM support and put a black housing around them and
a lot of "new" lenses could be developed with minimum effort.

Of course this is my personal wishful thinking because i´d like to
mount my FA* 28-70 2.8 on a fullframe body.....what a lens!

It would be very nice

But not realistic I am afraid

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Ishpuini · Aug 22, 2007

matander said:
I would say that it still is a big secret!
Nothing confirmed yet regarding sensorsize, resolution or
manufacturer. The only thing there seems to be some concensus around
is that ther will be a model above the K10D and one model between
K100D and K10D. We are also assuming a K10D super to appear.

Let's hope the K10D Super comes with a firmware upgrade like the DS2 came with one for the DS... There's still a few additional firmware tweaks many of us would like...

matander said:
The rumourmill says one of the 2 new models will not have a sony
sensor, if that sensor is aimed for the low end model then for sure
we it will be an APS-C sensor and the higher end model will then get
the new sony 12,5 MP sensor.

The rumour mill has been claiming non-Sony sensors for about every single DSLR announced by Pentax... They all turned out to have Sony sensors...

matander said:
If there is a new sensor developed i am sure that they aim for
something better than 10 MP APS-C since they can buy that cheaper
from Sony. My guess is that Pentax aim for delivering the first
affordable fullframe DSLR (I will probably have to eat that statement
tomorrow...). I know everything in the lens roadmap suggests that
they will stick to APS-C but flip the coin for a second and consider
what you would have done yourself if you planned on surprising the
market with a lower cost fullframe DSLR, would you put all your
planned fullframe lenses on the roadmap? I wouldnt!

Well, the DFA55 (for the 645D) has been on there for quite some time...

matander said:
Remember that Pentax said that they aimed for 21 new lenses 2007, how
many of these are revealed on the lens roadmap? The optical formulas
for the fullframe lenses are already available with their older
designs, throw in SDM support and put a black housing around them and
a lot of "new" lenses could be developed with minimum effort.

Except that Pentax doesn't have the production capacity to make them right now... And the demand for APS-C gear will not give them free capacity any time soon...

Wait and see...

Wim

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Voff · Aug 22, 2007

Anastigmat said:
It is no secret what Pentax will do next. It will come out with a
camera that uses the Sony 12.5mp APS-C CMOS sensor announced on
Monday. Quite possibly it will come out with a 10mp camera with a
k100D grade body to compete with the Nikon D40X.

I think that is spot on...

Roland Mabo · Aug 22, 2007

matander said:
Remember that Pentax said that they aimed for 21 new lenses 2007, how
many of these are revealed on the lens roadmap?

What Pentax said was that they aim to have 21 lenses by the end of the year.

When they release the lenses on the current roadmap, the total amount of D FA, DA, DA Limiteds and DA Stars will be 21 lenses. The statement was made when they had 10 lenses left to release, two of those has now been released (DA Star 16-50 f/2.8 and 50-135 f/2.). They have 8 lenses left to release: DA Star 55, 200, 300 and 60-250. DA 35 Limited, DA 35. DA 17-70 and 55-300.
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vprace · Aug 22, 2007

live view is another gadget, we don't need more gadgets we need improved quality features! faster more accurate AF, sharper images, less noise and accesories to support them!
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