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The scenery was beaufitul, the TZ3 is a great camera with OIS and stunning 16:9 wide angle. I just hope my poor PP technique did not ruin these pictures:-) plus I am lazy, I always avoid to denoise my pictures.

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Best Regards,

Danny

F30 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/F30/

TZ3 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/TZ3/

FZ1 Gallery
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FZ5 Gallery
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FX1 Gallery
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FX5 Gallery
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My Albums
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Enjoying your new toy? It must be great to own a L1:-) Symbol of man with standing:-) The 25mm f1.4 is a dream lens.

I just brought myself my first DSLR, a humble Pentax K100D super with 18-55 kit lens, I will buy a 50mm f1.4 prime.

I once ordered a softcell crab pizza in pizza hut, I wanted to take a picture for you, forgot to bring camera on that day, May be next time:-)

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Best Regards,

Danny

F30 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/F30/

TZ3 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/TZ3/

FZ1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FZ1%20PICS/

FZ5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/Panasonic%20FZ5/

FX1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX1%20PICS/

FX5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX5%20PICS/



My Albums
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danny_only said:
The following points may be important to you.

The not very good design of Power On-Off Switch of F31fd (I
believe it is same as the F30) can be easily activited when put back
or take out of pocket, especially when you are in a hurry.
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As far as I remember, the F20 was the same. I gave it to my son as I hardly used it. Then, of course, found I missed it. I'll be careful.
danny_only said:
You may need to worry about viewing the LCD under very bright
sun, the LCD of F30 is not as good as the TZ3, if the F31fd use the
same LCD of F30, you may need a 2.5" Collapsable LCD Shade for your
F31fd. Together with the collapsable LCD shade and LCD brightness
boost button, the F30's LCD (or may be also the F31fd) can then
barely match that of TZ3. I also use the collapsable LCD shade as a
support, I press my forehead against it during low light, I can get
sharp pictures at wide angle hand held around 1/9s without hand or
body support. Panny users may be uncomfortable when first using DC
without IS (I did, spoiled by OIS). The collapsable LCD Shade helps a
little bit.
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Do you know where can I get a collapsable LCD shade? The OIS of the TZ3 is fantastic and I'm sure to miss it. If the shade helps with holding the F31 steady as well as with viewing in bright sunlight, it sounds like a must have.
danny_only said:
No bracket exposure control, it is always better to underexposure
than overexposure, the lightening shadows and darkening highlights of
most photo editing software can bring back the details in the shadow
areas.
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Oh dear! I use bracketing a lot on the Panny. I'll have to underexpose, like you say.
danny_only said:
Slugglish burst speed.
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Don't use burst much, so not a problem.
danny_only said:
Please try to use the waist string all the time, F30/F31fd is
lighter than TZ3 and the grip space not as good, slippery.
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Mmm ... I may use the wrist string instead :)
danny_only said:
These are what I can think about the F30/F31fd when first used by
Panny users.
Please look for usage opinion from F31fd users.

The F30/F31fd has extremely long battery life and responsive shutter,
I hope you can enjoy it.
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The long battery life will be a big plus. The TZ3 has terrible batteries. I've got two spares and know I'll need them.

Thanks for all these tips, it's very good of you to take the trouble. I've been posting on this forum for two months. How come I haven't seen you on here before?

I hope I can enjoy it too!

Linda
 
danny_only said:
So you already know Eric:-)
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Hi again Danny,

Yes, I know Eric. He's been incredibly helpful with camera and software advice. I for one miss him since he went over to Canon Talk. I'm sure others do too.
danny_only said:
I really don't know much about the F31fd (even though, I had also
planned to get one as backup, in case my F30 breakdown, but gave up
the idea for running out of excuse to tell my wife why I need another
camera after the Pentax DSLR, the camera which I NEED to use to teach
my younger son basic photography grin Now, after getting my first
DSLR, I think I need to think harder to look up for an excuse to buy
a F31fd sigh )
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I don't think there's a great deal of difference between the F30 and the F31. You'll just HAVE to buy one to find out what the differences are :) To think, I used to manage with one camera. There was a thread on RT a few months ago about camera collectors. I think I'm becoming one.
danny_only said:
For F30, I usaully use Aperture Priority Mode, When I want to relax,
I use M program mode, auto flash I set auto iso to auto iso400,
-1/3ev outdoor even when overcast. In door no exposure bias is
needed. Average metering and multifocus. Do not afraid to use the
flash indoor and outdoor, The F3x i-flash is best in P & S. The
i-flash is great for fill in flash outdoor, must use.
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I'll make a note of these. They appear to be different from Eric's. I'll double check with him that he uses the same settings for the F20 and F31.
danny_only said:
I was terrified by the F30 Multi-Segment Metering, I used to call it
Random Metering. I use only average metering on my F30 and spot
metering for tricky light condition. I use multi focus and center
focus for portraits. I hope I did not confused you. Again please look
for advices from F31fd users. Please ask them whether you need to set
LCD brightness to -3 (set once) and when taking pictures outdoor one
needs to set exposure bias to -1/3ev?
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This is all very new to me after the TZ3. I just hope the camera arrives soon so that I have time to master these settings. Oh, I've just got an email to say it's been despatched! It may arrive tomorrow!
danny_only said:
The majority posters in the Fuji forum are nice and helpful people ,
so nice that some time treat trolls like guests:-) Many can take
really good pictures, such as agf, hpicckcy, Metal Troll, ismith,
ianbramham, KimberlyC (the most friendly poster I know) and many
others, very enjoyable chatting with them.
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Later on I may pluck up the courage to introduce myself over there and ask if anyone has any other F31 tips.

Linda
 
This is the LCD shade which I used please try with your local computer and camera malls. some folks in the Fuji forum also use them for their F30.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=21162937&q=forehead+image&qf=s

I compose by bypassing my bi-polar glass, so it is good for taking pictures of slow moving or static subjects (can't trace fast moving subjects)

With OIS, taking 1/5s pictures is a piece of cake, but for F30/F31fd, one needs very good camera holding technique.

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Best Regards,

Danny

F30 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/F30/

TZ3 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/TZ3/

FZ1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FZ1%20PICS/

FZ5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/Panasonic%20FZ5/

FX1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX1%20PICS/

FX5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX5%20PICS/



My Albums
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Hi Danny,

first of all: thank you very much for your pictures! It helps me very much as I am going to asia for 3 months and I have to decide which camera to buy (Canon SD800 / Lumix TZ2 (each 275$) / Fuji f31d)

I have one question: During my stay in Asia I have to work until the evening. So I need a camera which will help me to make beautiful pictures of landscape and cities at the weekend (daylight) as well as pictures of people in the street / nightmarkets in the evening. As I am still student I would prefer if I only have to buy one camera and not a Panasonic and Fuji (your so called "killer-combo"). So: Do you think I will be prepared well enough with the Panasonic only? Or isn't it possible to make good pictures with it on the nightmarkets and so? And (important question) is there a very big difference between the TZ2 and TZ3? Because the TZ3 is 70€ more... Otherwise I am not sure if I realy need 10x Zoom. So I also could just buy the f30 but then I will miss this amazing wideangel... If you had to decide for one of them for a asia trip, which one would pack in your pocket? ;-)

Thank you very much!

Greetings
Haubner
 
I don't know much about TZ2, but poster Fibel (I hope spell his name right) has taken many excellent pictures with his TZ2.

If can only buy one camera at this moment, I will suggest the TZ3 for its wide angle (especially when in 16:9 format) and tele lens (great for taking street and people pictures in day time), plus it is relatively easy to use. TZ3 can take low light pictures when properly exposured, not extremely low and no fast moving subject, though. You may also need a mini tripod (you can buy it in Aisa, cheaper than in Europe, which presume where you live. Try the one with flexible legs which can clamp itself around lamp pole), if the photographic venue allows setting up tripod, by all means use the tripod at low light, just remember to disable the OIS for long exposure time shots.

Which part of Asia are young going? If HK is included, then I will suggest after working for a while, when you get your paid, buy a Fuji F20 here (lower cost, Low resolution LCD, shorter battery life and no manual control) or a Fuji F30/F31fd. The F31fd grey market price is about US$220, may be by that time you will find it acceptable, monetary wise. The xd Card is slightly more expensive than sd card, 512M will be good enough, most modern Asian countries have photo finish shops which can burnt CD for you.

The F31fd (F20/F30) will allow you take much better low light pictures, with or without flash. The i-flash system is the best in the P & S category, do not worry about using it indoor and outdoor, its fill-in flash is really nice.

It is difficult for me to take similar picture (below) with my TZ3. 3 months is a long time, you can shop around and really think about getting a F31fd or F30/F20 to cover all your photographic needs, afterall, 3 months in a distant place is a long time, if spending a little more to perserve the memories is justified.



Finally, here are the prices of grey market TZ3 and F31fd selling here in HK for your reference.

TZ3 - around US$285 (may include 1g card)

F31fd - around US$220 (no card)

You can also brought either F31fd or TZ3 which ever is cheaper in your country, then buy the other in the country you are going, but you will need to check the prices and availability there before hand.

Wish you a good and enjoyable trip to Asia:-)

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Best Regards,

Danny

F30 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/F30/

TZ3 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/TZ3/

FZ1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FZ1%20PICS/

FZ5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/Panasonic%20FZ5/

FX1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX1%20PICS/

FX5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX5%20PICS/



My Albums
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danny_only said:
This is the LCD shade which I used please try with your local
computer and camera malls. some folks in the Fuji forum also use them
for their F30.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=21162937&q=forehead+image&qf=s

I compose by bypassing my bi-polar glass, so it is good for taking
pictures of slow moving or static subjects (can't trace fast moving
subjects)

With OIS, taking 1/5s pictures is a piece of cake, but for F30/F31fd,
one needs very good camera holding technique.
Best Regards,
Danny
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Hi Danny,
Nearly missed this one ... trying to keep track on two forums now!

I haven't seen anything like your LCD shade before. I'll have to do an internet search if I get time. Preparing for the holiday, learning a new camera, and posting on the forums is all very time consuming!

Linda
 
learn how to use the F31fd effectively, Gus is right take as many pictures as possible, visit the Fuji forum, look for advices. I ruined some pictures during my last trip due to lack of usage experience. However, do post pictures you find you have problem with and let other posters examine and provide solutions, remember to post exposure data.

Can't wait to see your Spain pictures:-)

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Best Regards,

Danny

F30 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/F30/

TZ3 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/TZ3/

FZ1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FZ1%20PICS/

FZ5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/Panasonic%20FZ5/

FX1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX1%20PICS/

FX5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX5%20PICS/



My Albums
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Hi Danny,

Seldom have the time to pop in here, but have to say that I love the photos of Hong Kong at night. Although I still feel the Tizzy is Dizzy........you make good use of it my friend. :)

Best regards,
Mike
 
I love night shots! #1 is excellent and the first tripod picture is great, too.

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JF

 
Hi Danny

thank you for your helpfull answers. You are right, I am from Europe. I hope my english is not too bad ;-) I hope it will improve during my stay in Asia...
danny_only said:
Finally, here are the prices of grey market TZ3 and F31fd selling
here in HK for your reference.

TZ3 - around US$285 (may include 1g card)

F31fd - around US$220 (no card)

You can also brought either F31fd or TZ3 which ever is cheaper in
your country, then buy the other in the country you are going, but
you will need to check the prices and availability there before hand.
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I fear I will not be able to come to Hongkong. Most of the time I will be at Taipeh (Taiwan). The prices you are saying are quite good. Prices here at the moment:

TZ3: US$457 (330€ without any extras)

F31fd: US$270 (200€ without any extras)

So this is much more expensive than in China. At the moment I think I would buy the Fuji here and the Panasonic in Taipeh. But then I will have no guarantee for a US$300 camera... As I fear I cant go to Panasonic in Germany and tell them I just bought them one year ago in Taiwan, do I?
What do you think?

Best regards
Haubner
 
 
 
Haubner06 said:
thank you for your helpfull answers. You are right, I am from Europe.
I hope my english is not too bad ;-) I hope it will improve during my
stay in Asia...
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As long as I am still posting here, you need not worry about your English being bad here:-) Your English is better than mine.
Haubner06 said:
I fear I will not be able to come to Hongkong. Most of the time I
will be at Taipeh (Taiwan). The prices you are saying are quite good.
Prices here at the moment:
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The prices of cameras should not be high in Taiwan, may be you can check with posters in Taiwan here. Check if grey market cameras are cheaper than official import cameras, because you don't need the warranty, if grey market cameras are cheaper in Taiwan, why not buy the grey market cameras?
Haubner06 said:
TZ3: US$457 (330€ without any extras)

F31fd: US$270 (200€ without any extras)
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Haubner06 said:
So this is much more expensive than in China. At the moment I think I
would buy the Fuji here and the Panasonic in Taipeh. But then I will
have no guarantee for a US$300 camera... As I fear I cant go to
Panasonic in Germany and tell them I just bought them one year ago in
Taiwan, do I?
What do you think?
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Tourists from Mainland China is buying a lot of cameras in HK, so prices of cameras in HK are cheaper, but not cheaper than those in Japan (naturally) and US (volume), The TZ3 is newer than F31fd, but 1 or 2 months later, it may become cheaper, so it is a good idea to buy the F31fd now then TZ3 later. BTW, the F31fd has a steeper learning curve and more things to play with.

My TZ3 is also a grey market camera, my second grey market camera. Before I also brought a grey market green Panny FX1 (out of 9 Pannys I brought), I have to take my chances, because the grey market TZ3 saved me more than US$120. Yes, if you buy grey market you need to take risk, that is the reason why it is nice to be rich:p

Good luck to your trip to Taiwan, a beautiful place, Please try to visit the "9 Shares" on the mountain, beautiful view.

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Best Regards,

Danny

F30 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/F30/

TZ3 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/TZ3/

FZ1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FZ1%20PICS/

FZ5 Gallery
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FX1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX1%20PICS/

FX5 Gallery
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My Albums
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I read those threads. Please, do not get side track by all those low costs DSLRs. Memory is not not composed of still pictures, I presume you are a young man, 3 months in a distant place is quite an experience, the compact will let you capture not only pictures but also video, i.e. moving pictures with sound and music.

Stick to the original plan, buy the cheap F31fd in Germany first, then when you are in Taiwan, you can either buy either the TZ3 or DSLR. Nikon D40 is nice, I almost brought it, because a kind poster here in the forum once offered to give me his 3 old Nikon lens, I did not buy the Nikon, he gave one of the lenses to another poster in the other forum. But if your experience is limited to APS film, better observe for a while before buying. DSLR is heavy and no video. 1 year from now the market will be flooded with high performance and low cost DSLR, why not wait?

Kodak is not not good idea, if you are still interested in Kodak. Read the Reviews, forget about the rating "Recommended" and "Not Recommended" makes no difference to me, reviewers are human, can be subjective too, but "Above Average" is a remark of "Kiss of Death", so better stick to TZ3, in case you don't want the F31fd.

F31fd can take excellent pictures, can print up to A3 size pictures. Did you check the pictures taken by Hugo Poon (hpicckcy) in the Fuji forum? You can be a second "Hugo", his pictures are the type of pictures you wanted to take when first asked about which compact to buy.

Buy any compact now, both TZ3 and F31 are great cameras, you will not regret buying either one, but after a while, you just want to buy the other one as well
:-) for they compliment each others.

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Best Regards,

Danny

F30 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/F30/

TZ3 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/TZ3/

FZ1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FZ1%20PICS/

FZ5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/Panasonic%20FZ5/

FX1 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX1%20PICS/

FX5 Gallery
http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a44/yeeonly/FX5%20PICS/

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