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Actually I would have to agree with you. I did not even leave it on the computer for one full boot cycle. The old copy of Capture I was using was much better. NX is much much better.
 
Since I haven't used every processing procedure ever put into existance, I guess I can only claim that Picture Project is the worst I've used. I can, however, say that I've used many over the last ten years or so.

I have noticed that camera manufacturers are including less and less software than they used to. Even my old Agfa 1680 included remote capture plus a full range of options for processing the photos.
 
Hey, I don't agree with Adobe and their prices on the updates either. But Canon at least includes decent software with their cams for raw processing.

And as for the other person who said they don't want to pay for a feature that they don't want... My opinion is that if you are going to pay 1600 bux for a cam then the tools necessary to process the files from it should be included.
psandham said:
re "Capture NX should be included with a camera of the D200 caliber.
Sadly it is not."

I agree AND I think that a D200 should be included with every copy of
PS you have to buy to keep up with the updates..........

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Eduardoo said:
Great software but full of bugs. Nikon Software designers need some
urgent help from some really competent programmers.

Regards,

Eduardo.
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Buggy? I'm using NX 1.2 and I'm not aware of any bugs that make it unusable or unstable. It's a lot faster than 1.1 on my aging laptop and does a top-class job of converting NEF's.

It's not perfect by any means, but I think you may be confusing 'bugs' with features that you would like which are not yet implemented in NX, or are in their earliy stages of implementation (it is only version 1.2 after all) or perhaps you don't like the interface.

I find NX to be a competent application and I expect that it will continue to develop to become a very powerful software tool. YMMMV of course, but I can't agree with the assertion that it's buggy.

David

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I installed PP when I got my D70 three years ago, took one look and uninstalled it.

Nikon View is decent for viewing NEFs but not without its glitches (it does not render D200 NEFs very nicely).

Nikon Transfer works flawlessly for me and is very convenient.

Capture NX is buggy but powerful.

The worst thing is that they are just too slow to update their software. I don't think I will spend any more money on Nikon software.
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Murray McCulloch said:
Capture NX is buggy but powerful.
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Murray, can you identify these bugs because I just don't find NX buggy. Since 1.1, it hasn't crashed on me once and does everything it should without problems (a bit slow at times but that's it and with each release it's getting snappier). Someone over at Fred Miranda was ranting about NX being unstable and buggy and said that he'd had enough of Nikon software until Nikon traced his problems to the OS (he was using a PC). After he fixed the OS issue, NX was running without a hitch.

I can understand users not liking NX because of workflow issues or slowness, but I'm using it on a Mac and I'm not plagued by any bugs at all. Maybe I'm doing something wrong ;-)

David
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...even Nikon editor, which is available as a free download, is better than lots of other (very slow) software.
Nikon capture NX is very fast and the point technology is just revolutionary.

I wonder how you would react if they gave you Fuji HU software, I think, -based on you impulsive reaction and headline-, you would bring Fuji to court...
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o Nikon's Capture NX - probably the best image output, some incredible features, odd UI. The only RAW processor that keeps all your in-camera settings
o Adobe Lightroom - average image quality, pretty good workflow

o RawShooter Professional - odd UI, but great workflow and good IQ. Now sadly bought and killed by Adobe
o RawMagick Lite - pretty good imgae quality, apalling workflow
o Bibble Pro - see above, only slight better UI
o Capture One - see above

o Adobe Camera RAW - appalling UI, not great image quality but free if you already have Photoshop CS or Photoshop Elements

o DxO Optics Pro - great if you shoot wide angle - does an excellent job of distortion/perspective correction
ACDSee Pro - erm, cheap...

Others will (violently) disagree. :)

I've tried all of those and bought 7 of them. I use Lightroom, NX and DxO the most (for RAW processing - ACDSee Pro's my import/batch resizing app of choice), for different reasons.

If I had to choose one for event work it would probably be Lightroom for sheer throughput. If I was just shooting for myself or for 'art' reasons, it would be NX.

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S.A. said:
And as for the other person who said they don't want to pay for a
feature that they don't want... My opinion is that if you are going
to pay 1600 bux for a cam then the tools necessary to process the
files from it should be included.
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I don't remember high-end film cameras coming with a free processing kit.
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NX is the only RAW converter which can read all your camera settings; if you nail your pictures right you only need to convert them to jpg.

and yes it is slow but you get things like control points that is really cool.

My bet is that version 2.0 will fix all the bugs. (I hope)

Josh
 
Morbius said:
Murray McCulloch said:
Capture NX is buggy but powerful.
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Murray, can you identify these bugs because I just don't find NX
buggy.
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I don't remember them all, but here are a few I come across often.

If you apply a control point to a cropped image, then change/remove the crop, the control point moves.

If you apply certain edits (such as gaussian blur) using certain selections (such as the oval), and then crop the image, the edit moves.

Sometimes when I press C for the crop tool, NX crashes.

If I get ahead of the program and press C before it finishes loading an image, it hangs.

Sometimes pressing CTRL+Z (undo) causes it to crash.

New actions are sometimes inserted somewhere between other actions instead of at the end of the list (maybe this is normal behaviour, but if so, it's stupid).

Murray
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Murray McCulloch said:
Morbius said:
Murray McCulloch said:
Capture NX is buggy but powerful.
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Murray, can you identify these bugs because I just don't find NX
buggy.
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Murray McCulloch said:
I don't remember them all, but here are a few I come across often.

If you apply a control point to a cropped image, then change/remove
the crop, the control point moves.
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I have seen this but as I crop first then process it's not something I'm bothered by. But yes, I agree it's is a bug.
Murray McCulloch said:
If you apply certain edits (such as gaussian blur) using certain
selections (such as the oval), and then crop the image, the edit
moves.

Sometimes when I press C for the crop tool, NX crashes.
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NX hasn't crashed on me since v 1.0. It's been very stable and remains so after installing 1.2. That's not to say it won't crash at some point - fingers crossed.
Murray McCulloch said:
If I get ahead of the program and press C before it finishes loading
an image, it hangs.
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Again, never seen this, but then I don't use that shortcut. Not saying it doesn't have to you.
Murray McCulloch said:
Sometimes pressing CTRL+Z (undo) causes it to crash.
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I've not experienced that.
Murray McCulloch said:
New actions are sometimes inserted somewhere between other actions
instead of at the end of the list (maybe this is normal behaviour,
but if so, it's stupid).
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This is a behaviour that used to drive me a bit crazy, I'll admit. It seemed to happen most often with USM. I think it's less common now, but I would agree this is a bug as it's not clear why it happens sometimes only or what you need to do to cause it or stop it.

There have been some problems which are PC specific (the black line when saving images in v 1.1 and the failure of NX to retain the save as settings in 1.1 which was fixed in the Mac version at 1.1 and only for PC's in 1.2).

Nonetheless, on my Macs - both PPC and Intel , crashes aren't happening and the bugs you've mentioned are annoying but not deal-breakers for me. I love the output of NX, I don't need to process hundreds of images at a pop and I've never been a PS fan nor do I have a pressing need for it. I would agree that a faster development cycle would be welcome but the default non-destructive editing and control points plus excellent RAW conversion make NX ideal for my needs and I am confident that as it matures, it will become an increasingly compelling app.

David
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Facetious, yes ... but frankly, you buy the hardware from Nikon and the software from Adobe and you have the best in class for both (my opinion of course.) Simple, and very effective.

YMMV

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I agree with many posters here. Capture NX is great. With all other softwares, you need to tweak heavily to get the results you can easily get from NX.

The Nikon View is handy for transferring pictures from you camera do quick JPEGs for posting and emailing.

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